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    The great google machine failed me so I'm turning to O.com.
    I've been trying to find out the differences between Army infantry and Marine infantry. Is it all the same(?), just different training?

    My second question is about the enlistment contract. I've been trying to figure it out. It's an 8 year service contract right? But you chose how many active years you're doing? Like, if i go in with a 4 year active duty contract, what happens to the other 4 years?






    Futurelaw

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    Originally posted by Futurelaw89 View Post
    The great google machine failed me so I'm turning to O.com.
    I've been trying to find out the differences between Army infantry and Marine infantry. Is it all the same(?), just different training?

    My second question is about the enlistment contract. I've been trying to figure it out. It's an 8 year service contract right? But you chose how many active years you're doing? Like, if i go in with a 4 year active duty contract, what happens to the other 4 years?

    Futurelaw
    You do either 4 or 6 years active duty then you go into whats known as the IRR or Inactive ready reserve. You can still be called back and sent to fight. Happens to lots of people in certain career fields.
    I don't answer recruitment messages....

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    • #3
      Being an old sailor who used to take the Marines to the beach...the marines make the beach safe for the Army to operate.....

      OK, joke over. The marines are designed to function for 30 days....hit the beach, instill shock and awe, kill people and break things. The Army comes in, and gives the property back to the bad guys.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by phillyrube View Post
        Being an old sailor who used to take the Marines to the beach...the marines make the beach safe for the Army to operate.....OK, joke over. The marines are designed to function for 30 days....hit the beach, instill shock and awe, kill people and break things. The Army comes in, and gives the property back to the bad guys.
        No, No, No you have it all wrong, the Marines give the army cover and concealment.
        Look philly I can understand your love for the Marines, they are after all part of the Dept. of The Navy........................................the men's department.
        It could be that the purpose of your life is only to serve as a warning to others.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by DACP View Post
          No, No, No you have it all wrong, the Marines give the army cover and concealment.
          Look philly I can understand your love for the Marines, they are after all part of the Dept. of The Navy........................................the men's department.
          I knew THAT was coming...heheheheh

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          • #6
            Yep, it's IRR. I believe you do not have to go to monthly drill while you're in IRR status.

            However, they could stop-loss you and you would just be active duty longer.

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            • #7
              The USMC is the implementation force. The Army is the stabilization force.

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              • #8
                Infantry is Infantry, when rounds are coming down range it doesnt matter if your wearing Marine Corps Digital or those Ugly Army Combat Uniform. The Main difference between the two is not the tangibles, its in the culture. The culture of the Marine is different from any other service. The differences are too nuainced and lengthy to discuss in this format but our culture explains why our Boot Camp is the way it is, why Marines are lifelong Marines even if they only served a few years in the Corps, and it explains why we're convinced to the point of arrogance that we're the most elite fighting force known to man. If your seriously interested in understanding the ethos of the Corps read Blood Strips by David Danelo. I have yet to read a more articulable explanation on why Marines are Marines.

                Your second question, it could have changed but in the Corps, you typically sign for an 8 year contract. The 8 years is comprised of 4 years active and 4 on Individual Ready Reserve IRR. If you're in the Delayed Entry Program, the time you're in counts towards your IRR committment, meaning if you do a year in the program you're only required to do 3 years of IRR. The IRR is reserve status but your not obligated to do the 1 weekend a month/2 weeks a year deal. You can if you want, and you'll get paid accordingly, but you are not obligated. During the 4 years you are also subject to active duty recall.

                good luck and Semper Fi
                Last edited by Re-Birth; 10-24-2009, 02:58 AM. Reason: typo
                Never ask a man if he served in the Marine Corps! If he earned the title "Marine" he will tell you, if he didn't, there is no need to embarrass him.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Re-Birth View Post
                  Infantry is Infantry, when rounds are coming down range it doesnt matter if your wearing Marine Corps Digital or those Ugly Army Combat Uniform. The Main difference between the two is not the tangibles, its in the culture. The culture of the Marine is different from any other service. The differences are too nuainced and lengthy to discuss in this format but our culture explains why our Boot Camp is the way it is, why Marines are lifelong Marines even if they only served a few years in the Corps, and it explains why we're convinced to the point of arrogance that we're the most elite fighting force known to man. If your seriously interested in understanding the ethos of the Corps read Blood Strips by David Danelo. I have yet to read a more articulable explanation on why Marines are Marines.

                  Your second question, it could have changed but in the Corps, you typically sign for an 8 year contract. The 8 years is comprised of 4 years active and 4 on Individual Ready Reserve IRR. If you're in the Delayed Entry Program, the time you're in counts towards your IRR committment, meaning if you do a year in the program you're only required to do 3 years of IRR. The IRR is reserve status but your not obligated to do the 1 weekend a month/2 weeks a year deal. You can if you want, and you'll get paid accordingly, but you are not obligated. During the 4 years you are also subject to active duty recall.

                  good luck and Semper Fi
                  I thought it was beacause they weren't smart enough to get into the Army or The Air Force.

                  BTW I thought all Marines were infantry?

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                  • #10
                    yeah in the broadest since all Marines are riflemen, but to say that a legal clerk has the same infantry profiencies as a machine gunner may be stretching it a bit. An individual Clerk or two would be trained to be able to intergrate with that infantry unit with little drop off, but a squad of admin Marines will not have the same battlefield prowess as the infantry squad.

                    I know your joking but Marines are a highly innovative and intelligent breed especially when it comes to the profession of warfighting. In the 20th Century there were 4 major battlefield innovations. Tank Warfare, Amphibious Assault, Combined Arms, and the Helo Assault. The Germans are credited with birthing Tank Warfare, the Marines are credited with the other 3.

                    US Marines: 3
                    World: 1
                    Never ask a man if he served in the Marine Corps! If he earned the title "Marine" he will tell you, if he didn't, there is no need to embarrass him.

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                    • #11
                      Thanks for the information Re-birth. I see you were/are an MP, how long did you serve? Did you enjoy the work you've done?



                      US Marines: 3
                      World: 1





                      Futurelaw

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                      • #12
                        marines

                        Originally posted by westside popo View Post
                        I thought it was beacause they weren't smart enough to get into the Army or The Air Force.

                        BTW I thought all Marines were infantry?


                        >>>> No the correct quote is "Every Marine is a Rifleman", meaning cooks, drivers, support personnel, when the S*&T goes bad, everyone is expected to "pick a rifle and stand a post" or defend a position.


                        You can not compare the Marines to the Army, that is like comparing the Navy to the Coast Guard.

                        Marines are a small swift moving force that comes in and takes over positions and territory, they are not an "occupying Army".

                        Many of the tactics are differant and the Indoc. Is VERY DIFFERENT, IMHO.

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                        • #13
                          Infantry is Infantry, when rounds are coming down range it doesnt matter if your wearing Marine Corps Digital or those Ugly Army Combat Uniform. The Main difference between the two is not the tangibles, its in the culture.
                          +1. If you want to be infantry for the sake of being infantry, I don't think it matters a whole lot which service you choose - both will "locate, close with and destroy", albeit in a different uniform and perhaps with some different support elements.

                          Overall service branch missions are different, though that matters little to the guy in the fighting hole, IMO.

                          Cultures are also very different, which is something you need to gauge for yourself and see if one or the other is a better fit for you.

                          From a former Marine grunt, I think the Army has a lot more opportunities to do things, even in the infantry. But being a Marine grunt and enduring what we do has its own sense of perverse pride involved . Service rivalries aside, I always gave props to Army grunts because they at least were grunts.

                          Every Marine is trained as a basic rifleman, which is vastly different from everyone being a grunt. This means - hopefully - that a bunch of support personnel in a convoy will remember to do rifleman-like things, like clean their weapons and be able to defend themselves if push comes to shove. They also won't carry the mindset of "we're just clerks," which can make someone pretty ineffective when they need to be putting rounds downrange.

                          In the end, the choice is based on what you are looking for.
                          "Sir, does this mean that Ann Margaret's not coming?"

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Futurelaw89 View Post
                            Thanks for the information Re-birth. I see you were/are an MP, how long did you serve? Did you enjoy the work you've done?









                            Futurelaw
                            MPwas my primary occupation, I also served time with the Marine Security Guard battalion and guarded the American Embassies overseas. I did enjoy what I did, like any job, some days you like it better than others, but overall it was the best experience of my life.
                            Never ask a man if he served in the Marine Corps! If he earned the title "Marine" he will tell you, if he didn't, there is no need to embarrass him.

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                            • #15
                              Good **** Re-Birth. I'm headed into MSG very soon myself. How long ago did you leave the program?

                              FutureLaw, if you've got specific questions regarding the 5800 MOS in the Corps, send me a message and I'll answer the best I can. I am currently an active duty Marine within the 5831 MOS: Correctional Specialist. In regards to your inquiry on the infantry, Re-Birth has best answered your question in my opinion.

                              Semper Fi to all my brothers and good luck to you.

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