new 190-56

[priorarmymp]

New 190-56 need ako to login and see

http://www.apd.army.mil/

[orlandofed5-0]

There are already challenges to it by the FOP and AFGE.

[DACP]

Well the PAT is pretty darn simple..................excuse me for a second, I need to do some negotiation math.........lets see......5 years * # of ***holes negotiating / stall tactics -3 ULP's + FLRA sitting the kids down to talk again = 5...........ok sorry about that I'm thinking in 5 years our post will have something worked out, not to worry in the mean time we can use the old one......no sillies not the 2006 version, duh the 1988 version

[orlandofed5-0]

Well the PAT is pretty darn simple..................excuse me for a second, I need to do some negotiation math.........lets see......5 years * # of ***holes negotiating / stall tactics -3 ULP's + FLRA sitting the kids down to talk again = 5...........ok sorry about that I'm thinking in 5 years our post will have something worked out, not to worry in the mean time we can use the old one......no sillies not the 2006 version, duh the 1988 version

I will say something about the old AR.. It required one to either go to FLETC or a state academy prior to assuming LE duties. Too many of the eff'in chiefs and PM's whined about training time and the costs now you have this mess.

[Unit453]

I will say something about the old AR.. It required one to either go to FLETC or a state academy prior to assuming LE duties. Too many of the eff'in chiefs and PM's whined about training time and the costs now you have this mess.

Thats exactly it. Up at Drum, we actually went through a state run curriculum, taught by state instructors, giving us state certification, however, since we were federal, no one recognized the certification. Our attrition rate was around 35% as it was, let alone getting recognized. Our officers were dropping like flies, including myself who moved on to 'real' agencies, with 'real' authority.

[SBean06]

We sent some of our new Civilians and MP's to a state academy run by the local police department, and they all had good things to say. Though, I plan to move on to a real department, Army has a long way to go and even DOD wide to get where law enforcement is today, I blame the hire ups that havent' worked the streets or a case since 1975 that are still working up there today.

[smk99]

this should be good for a laugh

[Woofdog]

How do you get a password to download Army FM's?

[FEDCOPPER74]

ok, for those of us that cant seem to log into ako at the moment, what are some of the key changes, heard whe had to turn in cred's at the end of shift?, any truth to it?

[FEDCOPPER74]

Ok, finally got it to load. Only a few changes made that i could see. PT test offer a waiver and alt events........cred's are slightly difference (and no you dont have to turn them in), sets standards for laterals (about time),......and puts the right to carry PERSONAL weopons off duty is put in the hands of the installation commanders (hope you got good one, we do).......well thats all i saw, guess i can live with it, however would like to see the PCA thing thrown out the window and forgotten about.

[spd2008]

Anyway to download that or take a look at it without having and ako, don't knwo when i will get that login in as everything else is slow. can someone down load it and email it to me?

[YankeeWhite]

ditto - may I see the reg? I'm considering switching dod pds

[Re-Birth]

Anyway to download that or take a look at it without having and ako, don't knwo when i will get that login in as everything else is slow. can someone down load it and email it to me?

im not sure if your received it from someone else already but i copied, pasted, and emailed it. The format is all jacked up though

[Unit453]

ditto - may I see the reg? I'm considering switching dod pds

You know, I worked for both the Army and the Air Force. I thought the Army was jacked up until I started working for the AF side. If you decide to transfer, go to a large installation with lots of activity. And trust me when I tell you, you will get lots of activity and lots of calls on large Army bases. There is no comparrison between the two.

[DACP]

try this web site
ARMY Pubs

The web page I have linked, is all of the 190 series good resource for all DACP's
* as far as I know you do not need AKO to access, just did it on the laptop at starbucks.