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    I'm a reservist and a sheriff's deputy in the Kansas City area. I am very adament (sp?) about carrying off duty. I was getting ready to wander up to Ft Leavenworth for something and the thought occured to me am I authorized to carry off duty on the base? Does anyone have any experience with this at all? I didn't know if any of the base law enforcement would be on here.

    Hobbsie

  • #2
    I'd call the PMO office and ask them about it. Most bases vary on that issue, I went to Nellis (I know not army) and called ahead and they were cool about it. But i ended up not carrying to class anyways.
    Dispatch, we have a 9-11, Armed Robbery in progress. Seay's Surplus Store, corner People's Drive and 124th Street.

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    • #3
      As long as you have valid LE credentials, you shouldn't have any problems on a military base.
      Politically Correct? No.

      Truthful? Yes!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Woofdog View Post
        As long as you have valid LE credentials, you shouldn't have any problems on a military base.
        That all depends on the installation. Most are gonna tell you to go pound sand. I personally dont see a reason to carry on a military installation. They could jack you up just for having it in the car and going through the gate and not disclosing that you have it. I'm not sure the laws in MO on firearms though.

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        • #5
          As a military retiree and active LEO, I've never had a problem carrying on any military installation anywhere.

          Don't hype what is not a problem.
          Politically Correct? No.

          Truthful? Yes!

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          • #6
            Call first. Depending on the base commander and provost marshal they can make life hard on you. I have seen local officers off duty arrested for transporting firearms onto military instilations, its rare and only happened twice during my 24 year career, but a call will save you alot of grief.
            Steve
            Respect all ...... Fear none!!!

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            • #7
              yeah you need to call and confirm, every base is different, and the one i work for does not allow anyone to bring one on unless your military or federal on duty

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              • #8
                Ive carried on base twice. Once, I was on duty in uniform, in a marked car. I went right to where I was going and when I was done, I left. I called ahead and worked it out with the base cops. The second time, I was on duty, however in plain clothes in an unmarked car and I was followed to the SP armory and they had me check my pistol into their armory. I did my meeting and went back to the armory and picked it up being escorted by a sky cop motorcade! So who knows.

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                • #9
                  This is nuts. I routinely go on and off military installations both on and off duty. If I had to check my weapon every time I came aboard, it would interfere with my mission ( if on duty) and my personal time (when off).

                  Gimme a break. cops are not the enemy!
                  Politically Correct? No.

                  Truthful? Yes!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Woofdog View Post
                    This is nuts. I routinely go on and off military installations both on and off duty. If I had to check my weapon every time I came aboard, it would interfere with my mission ( if on duty) and my personal time (when off).

                    Gimme a break. cops are not the enemy!
                    Cops are not the enemy, but that does not change DOD policy, or that of the base CO's. Each base, or regional commander has the authority to set regs on who can carry what where and under what circumstances.

                    In the Hampton Roads area, all DOD bases, including Army, Air Force, and Navy forbid the carrying of personal weapons on base. LEO's must be on official duty, and conducting business on the installation. Off duty carry is not allowed, no matter the reason or possibility of call up. Even in my status as a Fed, if I carry on these bases on less than official duty, I could be subject to.... a barring order.

                    The Army base near my hometown allowed anyone to carry, if they informed the PMO and obtained a permit. Only LEO's could carry loaded, but anyone could have the weapon with them.

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                    • #11
                      Whatever works for you.

                      As a sworn LEO, I'm on "duty" 24/7, and I carry a forearm accordingly.
                      Politically Correct? No.

                      Truthful? Yes!

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                      • #12
                        And I've carried aboard Norfolk bases.
                        Politically Correct? No.

                        Truthful? Yes!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Woofdog View Post
                          Whatever works for you.

                          As a sworn LEO, I'm on "duty" 24/7, and I carry a forearm accordingly.
                          I prefer to carry my firearm, better stopping power then my forearms Now if I was popeye, that would be another story
                          Dispatch, we have a 9-11, Armed Robbery in progress. Seay's Surplus Store, corner People's Drive and 124th Street.

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                          • #14
                            Dang - you're right!



                            A firearm beats a forearm each and every time!

                            Politically Correct? No.

                            Truthful? Yes!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Woofdog View Post
                              And I've carried aboard Norfolk bases.
                              As a LEO you should know, just because you have done something, doesn't mean you did it correctly. I can attest to the fact that you broke the local CO's regs. In fact there was a pretty big issue last year with the Virginia Beach Sheriff and the Admiral over his deputies not being allowed to come on base while armed. The deputies were denied access to NAS Oceana and Dam Neck forcing MWR to have to cancel a dance for some of the local schools. The Admiral held his ground though, and now all deputies who want to work the events on the bases have to do so unarmed.

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