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    No news information on this one, but Saturday afternoon an Army deserter was arrested near Vandenberg AFB here in CA by Lompoc PD. FT Irwin MP's have arranged to pick her up either today or tomorrow.

    The Federal Warrent was issued on 29 JUL 08. I'm glad it didn't take too long to hook her up. I'm glad we catch some of these people. Just thought someone on here would like to know there is one less deadbeat out there.
    I don't need probable cause to search your vehicle... AR 190-5.

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    What was the reason for desertion? Im pretty sure she will be drummed out and given a dishonorable discharge.
    I don't answer recruitment messages....

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    • #3
      That I am not sure of. I was called by the PD who arrested her to see if I would take charge of her. When I called FT Knox and informed them of the arrest they said they did not know the exact specifics since they did not have her file in front of them.

      I would like to know for my own knowledge. There is a soldier hiding out in Iraq right now who went AWOL when he come home on leave in early 06, and is filling their press with lies and other garbage that they are more than willing to believe.
      I don't need probable cause to search your vehicle... AR 190-5.

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      • #4
        Army Soldier there are over 4,000 active warrants for the army alone, on average there are 40-50 Solders “captured” or turning themselves in each week. Of those roughly 80% were either in Basic or AIT, some never even made it that far? The other 10% were permanent party. Now then of the 80% they will go to either Ft Sill or Ft Knox and be processed at one of the PCF’s, the other 10% will more than likely go back to their Unit (some stay at a PCF various factors involved). Now then if you go back to your unit you more than likely will get a CM with no more than a BCD discharge, or a simple Art 15. If you are at a PCF you will get either a Chapter 10 (vast majority) or a Chapter 14 either way it is only an OTH discharge and normally takes between 3-5 days to process, you are then sent home on excess leave and await your 214 in the mail. No jail no confinement none of that stuff. And the “pick up” is not much of a pickup unless they are considered a flight risk some forms are faxed to the holding Jail the soldier gets on a bus and reports to the PCF, they might be put on a flight all depends. Very few are actually picked up and very few are fully escorted cuffs shackles the whole 9 yards. Nope just a “here’s your ticket now report”
        So why do they do it? they are **** bags pure and simple there are 100’s of excuses but they all revolve around being a **** bag, and thus could not hack it, to sit and hear their stories is a waste of time, it is not like going to the VFW and hearing true soldiers stories, nope it is a ride on the short bus. I know what you are all saying, “WTF he cannot be serious?” ohh but I am welcome to candy land, it’s not your Dads Army any more.
        But YES I am interested, somehow in the end it is one less dirt bag disgracing my ARMY.
        It could be that the purpose of your life is only to serve as a warning to others.

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        • #5
          and by the way, unless someone is entering an installation, you do need probable cause to search a vehicle, or at the very least a consent to search. Might want to get your facts strait.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by inveich View Post
            and by the way, unless someone is entering an installation, you do need probable cause to search a vehicle, or at the very least a consent to search. Might want to get your facts strait.
            It could be that the purpose of your life is only to serve as a warning to others.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by inveich View Post
              and by the way, unless someone is entering an installation, you do need probable cause to search a vehicle, or at the very least a consent to search. Might want to get your facts strait.
              Probable cause is needed to search a vehicle when it is on a military installation, regardless of what a posted sign reads. Any driver can refuse to allow his vehicle to be searched and, if no PC exist, then he is simply escorted off the military installation and, possibly, trespassed. National security is an entirely different issue.

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              • #8
                I'll never forget the summer of '76, trying to get into the pants of a girl working at our restaurant. She was very cute and mysterious. It didn't work out. Later, I joined the PD and ran into the restaurant crowd one night. They informed me that my quarry had been picked up as an Army deserter! No wonder she was sooooooo mysterious.
                "You're never fully dressed without a smile."

                Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.

                Three things I know for sure: (1) No bad deed goes unrewarded, (2) No good deed goes unpunished, and (3) It is entirely possible to push the most devoted, loyal and caring person beyond the point where they no longer give a 5h!t.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by inveich View Post
                  and by the way, unless someone is entering an installation, you do need probable cause to search a vehicle, or at the very least a consent to search. Might want to get your facts strait.
                  They are talking about my signature. Never thought someone would get upset by my signature.
                  I don't need probable cause to search your vehicle... AR 190-5.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Army_Soldier View Post
                    They are talking about my signature. Never thought someone would get upset by my signature.
                    Ah ok. Health and welfare inspection for service members who drive their cars onto a military installation? If a service member refuses to allow his commander to search his vehicle without a search warrant, then what are the consequences?

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                    • #11
                      Not only for service members, but any vehicle that enters the Installation is subject to search. Once they are on, you need a reason. AR 190-5, 2-2 (b).

                      For a SM, it depends on the commanders policy. I you can read, you know you are subject to search based on the signs at the front of your installation.

                      Now let's go catch more deserters...
                      I don't need probable cause to search your vehicle... AR 190-5.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Army_Soldier View Post
                        Now let's go catch more deserters...
                        fishing rules apply, you catch it you clean it.
                        It could be that the purpose of your life is only to serve as a warning to others.

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                        • #13
                          We've got 3 bodies in my unit that are AWOL, and nobody seems to really care. What do they do with them when they find them? I've only been in about 4yrs and only thing I've scene done is they cut discharge papers to these people and thats it.
                          ~nothing follows~

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by dangerstayback View Post
                            What do they do with them when they find them?............ only thing I've scene done is they cut discharge papers to these people and thats it.
                            YEP thats it. might see a CM for Perm party but it is up to the command.
                            It could be that the purpose of your life is only to serve as a warning to others.

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                            • #15
                              Health and Welfares are only plain view now...I've run into this several times over the past 6 months. No longer are the days of searching through somethign for poop and giggles. All you can do is make sure they aren't living like a slob, and make sure their vehicle is clean and safe, insurance, can't go through the whole thing. Not upset at your quote, just wish it was true If I want to enter the installation, they pull me over for random vehicle inspection (not actually random) I can refuse and leave the installation. And the vehicle inspection is "force protection"

                              I wish we didn't need PC to search afterwards, would make it easier to find DUI's and drugs
                              Last edited by inveich; 08-15-2008, 06:44 AM.
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