LE Ranger

[FireControlman]

Yes and have not heard back

I'm assuming you have a level II commission?

[Squirrel]

Ok, Squirrel, that makes more sense and I retract my earlier statement that our experiences were so different. I'm in the same boat now, having left the NPS in the last few years for greener pastures. I echo the sentiment that I thoroughly miss the job, but not the NPS.

I'd still like to know what park had you working in an information desk in duty gear, so I can call in a predator drone strike on that superintendent's office. Why am I thinking a certain small park in Atlanta?

I do see pro-LE people moving into management positions by small increments, but the problem is the best LE Rangers all get poached by the Forest Service, BLM, Fish & Wildlife...hell, even agencies outside land management policing (like me) before they get to that point!

No worries.

Wasn't in Atlanta. It was actually out in the IMR. Don't worry, the superintendent has since left, although I don't know if resources are still being misspent there. Either way, not my problem at this point.

[AZDesertRat]

Does anyone have info on the academy for BLM Ranger LMPT for the 1801 series? I have been to a FLETC academy already and I know it won't count...So any info would be greatly appreciated!!!

What info are you looking to get? I went to LMPT in NM, but the basic program is the same as what you will do in GA.

[grunt82abn]

What info are you looking to get? I went to LMPT in NM, but the basic program is the same as what you will do in GA.

Is everything covered in the LMPT course or will I need to do a basic course and then LMPT? Is LMPT held in NM still or GA? What's the NM facility like? Just thing's like that. Any info would be appreciated!

[SemperCop]

Does anyone have info on the academy for BLM Ranger LMPT for the 1801 series? I have been to a FLETC academy already and I know it won't count...So any info would be greatly appreciated!!!

I don't know about BLM, but the NPS has been putting FLETC grads through a two or three week bridge course followed by FTO. I know last year several CBP officers and at least one Secret Service UD Officer became rangers without going through full LMPT. And over the years several USPP Officers have become rangers in the same way.

Otherwise, LMPT is just like your basic police academy (although I think less stressful) but has some added "rangerly" stuff like tactical tracking, etc.

[SemperCop]

Did anyone apply for any of the open seasonal positions or the current NPS perm position in HI?

There is probably no position in U.S. law enforcement that does less actual law enforcement than that job in Hawaii. I hope you read the whole announcement, like the part about it being an actual LEPER colony! There are no roads in or out, your spouse and kids can't live there (unless your spouse works in the park also) and there's almost no visitation. Why they even have commissioned rangers there boggles the mind, but the NPS has a really screwed up model for staffing law enfocement. Those positions could be put to better use elsewhere, but don't look for logic in the NPS or you'll be seriously dissappointed!

If you're just looking to get your foot in the door, do yourself a favor and apply to Philly or the Arch.

[BillyJonze]

I'm curious about this concept of exempting LMPT. Does anyone have any more info to offer on this?

Being a special agent, isn't as special as one may think...

[SemperCop]

I'm curious about this concept of exempting LMPT. Does anyone have any more info to offer on this?

Being a special agent, isn't as special as one may think...

I know they have done it for FLETC Uniform Police Training or whatever they are calling it this week. Not sure about basic 1811 school.

[SemperCop]

Semper,
Am I right in assuming not too many people will apply for this position because of the working conditions?

I would think so, but ya never know. Some people look at it as a foot in the door, and are content to be bored and miserable while waiting for FLETC. I take the approach that its better not to start off your career ****ed off and disenfranchised just to get your foot in the door, but then again I started (permanent) at a well-known icon park. Knew alot of ****ed off, miserable people there who wanted to be in Yellowstone or something but I enjoyed it for what it was and left 18 months later when it was my turn.

I have seen this particular position in Hawaii come open about every year or so advertising multiple vacancies. That should tell you something. But, like anything, it depends on what you want to do. Boredom, isolation, and leprocy...yeah, dosen't sound like a great place to work for me, but I'm sure there are people out there who enjoy getting paid a decent salary to be left alone and not really do any work. Not worth it for me though.

[grunt82abn]

Cool Thanks!!!

[FireControlman]

Just returned from Yosemite last night and was surprised to find that out of four days there, I only saw two LE rangers the whole time.

[CACBAND]

I'm assuming you have a level II commission?

Yes

[Bearcat357]

Semper,
Am I right in assuming not too many people will apply for this position because of the working conditions?

Have you been there before...? I have....not someplace I'd like to work let alone hangout for more than a few hours.....

The island is miserable.....thru the roof unemployment rate because the only hotel they had there got shut down because the locals threw a fit about it wanting to expand. So, the owner just shut down...... Other than that, not much there on the top side. Bottom side where you would be working has nothing there at all....Nothing at all.....

I couldn't imagine dragging wife/kids there...... School system is barely existing there......

Unless you have some Hawaiian background....it would be a very, very rough place to live and work.....

[ACO88]

Do a decent amount of the LE Rangers ever buy a camper and just live in that? If someone is a LE Ranger is it practical to buy a camper to live in instead of the gov housing also since they move around alot and private housing isn't always available............

[FireControlman]

The large majority of seasonal positions will require you to live in gov housing. For the positions that don't require it, it is probably still cheaper to live in gov housing then it is to live out of a camper.

My government housing costs me $2,307 a month!


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