National Park Service Rangers

[NYRESCUE]

Little info on them please...Authority, Jurisdiction, Carry and advancement. I do know they have to go to one of the 9 accredited schools for the training. Thanks again.

[DARE_SUPPORTER]

They go to FLETC through LMPT program (Land Management Police Training).

Trying Searching for it, I have seen many threads on this topic.

[orlandofed5-0]

Little info on them please...Authority, Jurisdiction, Carry and advancement. I do know they have to go to one of the 9 accredited schools for the training. Thanks again.

Authority is pretty broad as its contained in Title 36 (ask one of the USPP guys). Jurisdiction is all NPS owned lands. Yes they carry and have senior ranger slots.

In order to get hired you must meet minimum standards and compete against a ton of NPS level II certified folks who work season to season then get hired full time. Some parks that are easier to get hired by such as Thomas Edison house in West Orange NJ might waive the NPS level II if they dont get enough applications.

If you want to be an NPS ranger, you are better off getting the level II cert by paying for one of the schools.

[NYRESCUE]

So I take it getting on a park like sandy hook or other NPS parks here in say PA, NY and NJ are hard to get into? I do know the closest school is in Hadley, MA for the NPS Level 2 I was just trying to get all the info I could before I move forward with a decision. Seems like a squared away spot if you can get it...but do not know too much about it.

[Squirrel]

There's a HUGE difference between seasonal and permanent.

Seasonal jobs are relatively easy to get into. You might have to go some place less desirable your first season, but once you get some experience, things open up.

Permanent jobs are different. You're competing with a LOT of well-qualified folks. I know people who have been seasonals for 7+ years, looking for a permanent job. The rule of thumb there is, beggars shouldn't be choosers. If you can afford to be picky, that's great. But most folks say, "I want to pay into retirement. I want year-round employment. I want health benefits," and will go to Philly, or St. Louis, or Boston, or the SW border, or wherever is hiring.

Sandy Hook is a big operation. Getting a seasonal gig there probably wouldn't be that hard, especially once you have a season or two of experience. Permanent is anyone's guess. Depends on when/if people leave, how they announce the position (5/7/9, or straight 9, status or competitive), etc.

[2971511]

go to wwww.usajobs.opm.gov series search 0025 and you will see tons of seasonal spots,,,, or here http://www.nps.gov/personnel/ I too know of many seasonal LE Rangers who waited 9, 10, even 11 years to get perm. spots... if you really want to do this,, go to a seasonal academy, also remember that you will not pay into your retirement until you get a permanent position, nor will any of your seasonal time qualify towards your retirement,,, which is whay many people do not stick around.... A lot of returning seasonal are school teachers, college professors, etc.... Also many seasonal rangers work full time, they will work April-oct. in a summer park like Yosemite then oct.-april in a winter park like Everglades..


www.rangerfop.com is another good web site to get some insight into the job. Good Luck

[Squirrel]

Also many seasonal rangers work full time, they will work April-oct. in a summer park like Yosemite then oct.-april in a winter park like Everglades..

Bear in mind also that the winter seasonal jobs are more scarce than the summer seasonals, so not every seasonal gets to do year-round work. If you're willing to do interp, maintenance, etc. in the winter, then your chances go up some, of course.

[2971511]

THE NPS has several different types of L.E. Commissions, a Level 1 is a full time, and all F/T LE rangers, USPP Officers, and NPS C.I.'s have this.. you can investigate any crime..

Seasonals usually get a Level 2 commission, you can do self initiated stuff, usually misdemeanors, but you can not be the lead investigator on ANY FELONY..

Your authority is obtained from Title 16 U.S.C. 1a-6 which is enumerated here: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/ht...1---a006-.html

Some seasonals do a lot of LE, others do not, it will depend on which park you go to, and what the Supt. wants.. remember the last thing they want is to have you involved in some high profile caase that requires you to return after the season ends.. which becomes a logistical nightmare.....

This site maintains a list of Seasonal Ranger training: http://www.anpr.org/academies.htm

[UD4LIFE]

Can USPP Officers lateral to NPS LE spots?

If so, is it common?

THE NPS has several different types of L.E. Commissions, a Level 1 is a full time, and all F/T LE rangers, USPP Officers, and NPS C.I.'s have this.. you can investigate any crime..

Seasonals usually get a Level 2 commission, you can do self initiated stuff, usually misdemeanors, but you can not be the lead investigator on ANY FELONY..

Your authority is obtained from Title 16 U.S.C. 1a-6 which is enumerated here: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/ht...1---a006-.html

Some seasonals do a lot of LE, others do not, it will depend on which park you go to, and what the Supt. wants.. remember the last thing they want is to have you involved in some high profile caase that requires you to return after the season ends.. which becomes a logistical nightmare.....

This site maintains a list of Seasonal Ranger training: http://www.anpr.org/academies.htm

[NYRESCUE]

All great information fellas...of course I would love to stay in the NY, NJ and PA area but again beggers cannot certainly be choosers. Once you get Level one I am assuming you can transfer but then again once you get that far I would bet one would be lucky to even be fulltime anywhere. Are they hurting for positions right now? Is there funding to hire full timers? I did speak to the lady up in Hadley and she stated a 99.9% placement but of course i'm betting its seasonal.

[Squirrel]

There is funding, and there are currently several permanent, open to the public 0025 Ranger announcements open on USAjobs. However, they almost always require a Level 2 commission. If a position doesn't, you can pretty much be sure it's going to go to a vet. Positions are extremely competitive.

That 99.9% is most certainly seasonal. It has happened that folks have landed term, and even permanent positions straight out of the seasonal academy. However, folks that get those spots usually bring something significant to the table: prior LE experience, prior land management experience, interp or general ranger experience, etc.

[2971511]

UD4LIFE,, Yes, I personally know of at least a dozen or so USPP officers who transferred/lateralled to NPS Ranger jobs, One even went to be a BLM LE Ranger and she loves it.... Most of the officers that left were from the mid-west and wanted to return home to be closer to family.... Happens all the time and it is a win/lose for the NPS, we lose because we drop a seasoned officer, but as far as the rangers are concerned they gain a fully trained and certified LEO, and the individual park does not have to pay to send someone to FLETC..... and they get a USPP officer who has a lot of field exp. and some with a ton of LE Certs.

[JadedUSPP]

At some point DM9 is going to be in effect for all NPS law enforcement.

[NYRESCUE]

DM9 is? Oh and of course I would not even consider it without sending myself through school first. How are the job opportunities on the east coast and can you transfer to other LE jobs from NPS?

[2971511]

LOKK IN USA JOBS, for seasonal LE, or PROTETCTION postions .......... we arent going to find the job for you....... there are a lot out there.. good luck