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  • NYPD Lateral to Austin Questions on Obtaining TCOLE.

    Can anyone provide any insight on the process of Challenging the TEXAS State test? How long does it usually to take to finish? Anyone with any knowledge on the Austin Police Department?
    Got That Call All the waiting was worth it ya buddy!!

  • #2
    Austin is one of those departments that require you to go through their academy, no matter is certified or not. Only exception would be their modified academies, but one must meet those requirements, and it's still an academy just shorter.

    Straight from the TCOLE website:
    http://www.tcole.texas.gov/content/o...peace-officers
    Out of State Peace Officers


    Getting a License if you are an out of state peace officer

    The Texas Commission on Law Enforcement (TCOLE) welcomes law enforcement officers from other areas considering a career move to Texas. Please carefully review the “Out of State/Federal Application” found under the Forms and Applications section of our website. [http://www.tcole.texas.gov/content/f...-applications]

    You must meet ALL of the work, training and application requirements. You will be required to complete an initial application, including fingerprints through FAST, to determine your eligibility. Please do not proceed to next steps until your eligibility has been approved. If you are approved, you will receive further instructions by mail. Please allow two weeks for TCOLE to review your initial application.

    In order to become licensed as a peace officer in Texas, you must meet the minimum standards for initial licensure (§217.1.) and complete the following steps:

    Approval of the initial eligibility form;
    Successful completion of the Texas Supplemental Peace Officer course (1018) (instructions provided with eligibility approval);
    Successful completion of the TCOLE Rules Overview (1305) if eligibility form is received after June 1, 2014 (instructions provided with eligibility approval);
    Approval of the exam application, and receive endorsement from TCOLE (exam application provided only when eligibility is approved);
    Passing of the state licensing examination; and
    Appointment by a law enforcement agency within two years from the date of your passed examination.

    The examination endorsement, issued by TCOLE, allows three attempts that must be completed within 180 days from issuance. The Texas basic licensing course must be completed if:

    ·the initial application for eligibility is not approved; or

    ·the examinee fails all three attempts to pass the licensing exam; or

    ·the examinee fails to complete all three attempts within 180 days from the completion date of the licensing course; or

    ·the examinee is dismissed from an exam for cheating. If dismissed from an exam for cheating, all remaining attempts are invalidated.

    Please contact our staff for any questions or clarification regarding the documentation that must be submitted with the eligibility form. Do not make assumptions you will be accepted until your eligibility has been approved.
    Work and Basic Training Requirements

    Work History
    Applicant must have honorably served (employed, benefits eligible) as a sworn full time paid peace officer for 2 continuous years within the 4 years prior to application. Service time applied to this section must have been obtained following completion of a state POST approved basic training course.

    Training Requirements
    TCOLE uses the number of hours in our basic peace officer training course to determine the minimum amount of hours for equivalency. The chart below identifies the hourly requirements.
    [chart did not copy, visit link to see]



    Before individuals with federal credentials or out-of-state license(s) may attempt the licensing exam, they must meet all of the statutory licensing requirements of the State of Texas and the rules of the Commission

    U.S. citizenship is a requirement to be licensed as a peace officer in Texas. (Commission Rule (§217.1(a)(18))

    All applicants will be subject to a search through the National Decertification Database (NDD), NCIC/TCIC, and National Criminal History Databases to establish eligibility.

    Qualifying Federal Departments

    The Texas Code of Criminal Procedure, § 2.122, recognizes specific criminal investigators of the United States as having authority to enforce selected state laws by virtue of their authority. Prior training will be evaluated and approved by the Commission to insure it meets current training requirements.

    (1) Special Agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation;

    (2) Special Agents of the Secret Service;

    (3) Special Agents of the United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement;

    (4) Special Agents of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives;

    (5) Special Agents of the United States Drug Enforcement Administration;

    (6) Inspectors of the United States Postal Inspection Service;

    (7) Special Agents of the Criminal Investigation Division of the Internal Revenue Service;

    (8) Civilian Special Agents of the United States Naval Criminal Investigative Service;

    (9) Marshals and Deputy Marshals of the United States Marshals Service;

    (10) Special Agents of the United States Department of State, Bureau of Diplomatic Security;

    (11) Special Agents of the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration;

    (12) Special Agents of the Office of Inspector General of the United States Social Security Administration;

    (13) Special Agents of the Office of Inspector General of the United States Department of Veterans Affairs;

    (14) A person designated as a Special Policeman by the Federal Protective Service of the General Services Administration under 40 U.S.C. Section 318 or 318d;

    (15) A Customs and Border Protection Officer or Border Patrol Agent of the United States Customs and Border Protection or an immigration enforcement agent, or deportation officer of the Department of Homeland Security;

    (16) A commissioned law enforcement officer of the National Parks Service;

    (17) A Special Agent or Law Enforcement Officer of the United States Forest Service; and

    (18) Security personnel working at a commercial nuclear power plant, including contract security personnel, trained and qualified under a security plan approved by the United States Nuclear Regulatory Commission.
    Federal Officers must

    successfully complete an approved Federal Agency Law Enforcement training course (equivalent course topics and hours);
    be subject to continued employment or eligible for re-hire (excluding retirement);
    have honorably served (employed, benefits eligible) in one of the aforementioned federal full time paid capacities for 2 continuous years within the 4 years prior to application. Service time applied to this section must have been obtained following completion of a federal agency law enforcement approved basic training course; and
    have a copy of all their military discharge(s) (DD-214) (if applicable); and
    have a current fingerprint return on file with FAST.

    Individuals from other U.S. states must

    provide proof of successful completion of a state POST-approved (or state licensing authority) basic police officer training academy with equivalent course topics and hours of training at the time of initial certification or licensure;
    have honorably served (employed, benefits eligible) as a sworn full time paid peace officer for 2 continuous years within the 4 years prior to application. Service time applied to this section must have been obtained following completion of a state POST approved basic training course;
    be subject to continued employment or eligible for re-hire (excluding retirement);
    the applicant’s license or certificate must never have been, nor currently be in the process of being, surrendered, suspended, or revoked; and
    have a copy of all their military discharge(s) (DD-214) (if applicable). Individual has never received a dishonorable or other discharge based on misconduct barring future military service, Commission Rule 217.1(a)(13).

    Required Documents to Accompany the Application

    1. A certified or notarized copy of the basic training certificate for a police officer with hours listed. If hours are not listed on the certificate, documentation of hours completed must accompany the certificate (Reserve, part time, or auxiliary training is not accepted);

    2. A certified or notarized copy of a Federal Agent’s License or Credentials; or a certified or notarized copy of the police officer license or certificate issued by the state POST;

    3. A notarized statement from the state POST, current or previous employing agency(s), or federal employing agency revealing any disciplinary action(s) that may have been taken against any license or certificate issued by that agency or any pending action; or that no disciplinary action has been taken at any time on your license or certification;

    4. A notarized statement from your employing agency(s) confirming full time service as a peace officer, federal officer or agent. Exact service dates are required. (Reserve or auxiliary peace officer training is not accepted; probationary officer time prior to completion of an approved basic police officer training academy is not accepted);

    5. A certified or notarized copy of your valid state-issued driver’s license; and

    6. A copy of all your military discharge(s) (DD-214) (if applicable).

    The Commission may request that applicants submit a copy of the Basic and Advanced Training Curriculum for equivalency evaluation and final approval.
    Preparation for the Licensing Examination

    The latest “Texas” editions of the following references are suggested reading.

    1. Code of Criminal Procedure

    2. Penal Code

    3. Transportation Code

    4. Alcoholic Beverage Code

    5. Health and Safety Code

    6. Family Code

    Texas statutes can be found online at www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us.
    Possible sources for the reference material

    Public libraries

    College bookstores

    West Publications (800) 328-9352

    Sterling Publications (210) 438-7110

    Lexis-Nexis (800) 833-9844

    Texas Municipal Courts Education Center (512) 320-8274
    Testing information

    A list of test sites can be found on our Exam Sites portion of our website. Contact the test site to schedule an exam, directions to site, any exam fee and method of payment.

    You will not be allowed to attempt the exam without a state or federal photo ID.

    If you have any questions, please call (512) 936-7700.
    "To hell with a supervisor, men follow a leader" -Texas Ranger Captain Allee

    "Regard your soldiers as your children, and they will follow you into the deepest valleys; look on them as your own beloved sons, and they will stand by you even unto death."
    -Sun Tzu

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    • #3
      The modified academy is a lot shorter, and there are a few other benefits offered to laterals:
      1) as soon as you get off FTO, they bump your pay to the 1 year pay raise.
      2) as soon as you finish your first year, they bump your pay to the 2 year pay raise.
      3) you can start working secondary employment after 6 mos instead of 15 mos.

      I don't know anything about challenging TCOLE other than what's on the website.

      The APD recruiting website says
      Applicants without a TCOLE license must obtain their license at least two weeks prior to the start of the Modified Academy by following TCOLE established guidelines. Contact Sgt. Gizette Gaslin at (512) 974-5513 for additional information.
      If you have other specific questions on the modified or TCOLE, call Sgt. Gaslin. She's good people.

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      • #4
        How difficult is it to get in Austin? Is it one of those departments that they hire few out of many? Is it based on an exam score or do they hire based in experience?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Dbfitness View Post
          Can anyone provide any insight on the process of Challenging the TEXAS State test? How long does it usually to take to finish? Anyone with any knowledge on the Austin Police Department?
          Bump for this, I'm also thinking about doing a lateral transfer from NYPD to Austin and would really appreciate any info.

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          • #6
            We've got some Austin guys on here, so they can better tell you about the department. I will say that if you are from NYPD and want to come to Texas, Austin the city is more like a northeastern city as far as politics. I'm pretty sure the department reflects that.
            I yell "PIKACHU" before I tase someone.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by NYC_PO View Post
              Bump for this, I'm also thinking about doing a lateral transfer from NYPD to Austin and would really appreciate any info.
              Info on getting the TCOLE license is in the link provided by BaylorBearSW. What other info are you looking for? Happy to answer anything I can.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Rudy8116 View Post
                We've got some Austin guys on here, so they can better tell you about the department. I will say that if you are from NYPD and want to come to Texas, Austin the city is more like a northeastern city as far as politics. I'm pretty sure the department reflects that.
                The only thing though is that the policing culture, like everywhere else in this state, is different than you'd find in New York or the northeast. Just throwing that out there.
                Austin Texas Police Department (APD)

                03/25/10: PT: Passed
                03/25/10: Nelson Denny - Passed
                03/25/10: Writing Sample - Passed
                03/26/10: INI - Passed
                03/26/10: MMP - Passed
                03/26/10: Oral Interview - Passed
                06/07/10: Background Investigation - Passed
                09/07/10: Medical/drug screening - Passed
                09/08/10: Polygraph - Passed
                09/08/10: Psych evaluation - Passed
                09/23/10: Eligibility Roster - #26

                08/15/2011 - Academy Starts

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by kip42 View Post
                  How difficult is it to get in Austin? Is it one of those departments that they hire few out of many? Is it based on an exam score or do they hire based in experience?
                  APD has one of the more objective hiring processes I've ever seen. You get a conditional offer employment on the first day which basically mean that really on yourself can disqualify you from the process. If you pass everything you will be hired it's just a matter of when.

                  There are pros and cons to this. We've had some people hired that should not have been cops. That's all I'll say about that.

                  At APD recruiting, when you turn in your app determines where you'll be ranked on the hiring list. Get your completed app in as soon as the hiring period opens.
                  Austin Texas Police Department (APD)

                  03/25/10: PT: Passed
                  03/25/10: Nelson Denny - Passed
                  03/25/10: Writing Sample - Passed
                  03/26/10: INI - Passed
                  03/26/10: MMP - Passed
                  03/26/10: Oral Interview - Passed
                  06/07/10: Background Investigation - Passed
                  09/07/10: Medical/drug screening - Passed
                  09/08/10: Polygraph - Passed
                  09/08/10: Psych evaluation - Passed
                  09/23/10: Eligibility Roster - #26

                  08/15/2011 - Academy Starts

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by atx_spartan View Post
                    APD has one of the more objective hiring processes I've ever seen. You get a conditional offer employment on the first day which basically mean that really on yourself can disqualify you from the process. If you pass everything you will be hired it's just a matter of when.

                    There are pros and cons to this. We've had some people hired that should not have been cops. That's all I'll say about that.

                    At APD recruiting, when you turn in your app determines where you'll be ranked on the hiring list. Get your completed app in as soon as the hiring period opens.
                    Really? So just to make sure I'm reading this correctly, as long as you pass everything you will eventually be hired?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by UGSAce52 View Post
                      Really? So just to make sure I'm reading this correctly, as long as you pass everything you will eventually be hired?
                      That's correct. You pass everything, you get hired. Timing is the only thing.

                      The only thing that separates you from another applicant that also passed everything is the date when you turn in your application packet.
                      Austin Texas Police Department (APD)

                      03/25/10: PT: Passed
                      03/25/10: Nelson Denny - Passed
                      03/25/10: Writing Sample - Passed
                      03/26/10: INI - Passed
                      03/26/10: MMP - Passed
                      03/26/10: Oral Interview - Passed
                      06/07/10: Background Investigation - Passed
                      09/07/10: Medical/drug screening - Passed
                      09/08/10: Polygraph - Passed
                      09/08/10: Psych evaluation - Passed
                      09/23/10: Eligibility Roster - #26

                      08/15/2011 - Academy Starts

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by atx_spartan View Post
                        That's correct. You pass everything, you get hired. Timing is the only thing.

                        The only thing that separates you from another applicant that also passed everything is the date when you turn in your application packet.
                        Interesting, but I like it.

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