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  • Air Force Police/TCLOSE

    Can Air force police officers at Fort Sam Houston, TX get TCLOSE certified with out attending the full academy?

  • #2
    From TCLEOSE


    MILITARY POLICE TRAINING
    IMPORTANT! PLEASE READ.

    The Texas Commission on Law Enforcement Officer Standards and Education (TCLEOSE) does not use social security numbers as an identifier. Submit the “PID Assignment form” and receive your TCLEOSE PID before you spend any money or take any classes. A PID is required on all forms submitted to TCLEOSE.

    Individuals with military police training may apply to take the licensing exam, providing they meet all of the statutory licensing requirements of the State of Texas and the Rules of the Texas Commission on Law Enforcement Officer Standards and Education (TCLEOSE) (See Texas Occupations Code and Commission Rules, available on TCLEOSE website; www.tcleose.state.tx.us.)

    U.S. citizenship is a requirement to be licensed as a peace officer in Texas. (Commission Rule 217.1(a)(18)).

    All applicants will be subject to a search of the National Decertification Database (NDD), NCIC/TCIC, and National Criminal History Databases to establish eligibility.

    Qualifying Military Police must:

    have successfully completed basic military police course for branch of military served;

    have served as a military policeman in the United States Army, United States Marine Corps, United States Air Force or United States Navy;

    have a military police military occupation specialty (MOS) or air force career (AFC) classification;
    U.S. Army 95B or 31B
    U.S. Marine Corps 5811
    U.S. Air Force 3PO51, 3PO71, or 3PO91
    U.S. Navy Master at Arms or NEC 9545 and successfully completed NAVEDTRA 14137

    have 24 months active duty service in one of the above MOS classifications;

    have a copy of all your military discharge(s) (DD-214); all must be under honorable or general-under-honorable conditions; and

    have successfully completed the “Texas Supplemental Peace Officer” training course #1018.

    Note: If currently on active duty, applicant must forward any DD214s from prior service, and letter from applicants commanding officer stating the applicant holds the MOS/AFS for military police, have a minimum of 24 months active duty service in the military police MOS/AFS, and they have not received any disciplinary action resulting in suspension, reduction in rank, or formal reprimands and would currently be eligible for an honorable discharge. Reserve duty status will not meet active duty requirement.

    Required Documents to Accompany the Application:

    1. A certified or notarized copy of the military police basic training certificate

    2. A certified or notarized copy of Master at Arms Nonresident Training Course (NAVEDTRA 14137, U.S. Navy)

    3. A certified or notarized copy of your valid state-issued driver’s license

    4. A passport-sized color photograph (head and shoulders with a plain background), signed with your full signature on the back of the photograph

    5. A copy of all your military discharge(s) (DD-214); under honorable or general-under-honorable conditions or a letter from your commanding officer meeting the requirements noted above

    6. A copy of certification showing completion of the “Texas Supplemental Peace Office Course”

    7. An attached certified check or money order in the amount of $150 (the application fee is non-refundable and is assessed to cover the cost of reviewing and processing your application)

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    • #3
      I read that it seems to tailor to Enlisted SF Personnel. I am talking about a Civilian DOD or DAF police officers that are not enlisted in the Air Force or other service.

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      • #4
        This is all I could find. If this doesn't help I'de call TCLEOSE

        Pre-Requisites for Federal Agents: The Texas Code of Criminal Procedures Section 2.122 recognizes named criminal investigators of the United States as having authority to enforce selected state laws by virtue of their authority. The individuals listed are deemed to have the equivalent training for licensure consideration:


        (1.)Special Agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation;
        (2.)Special Agents of the Secret Service;
        (3.)Special Agents of the United States Customs Service;
        (4.)Special Agents of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms;
        (5.)Special Agents of the Federal Drug Enforcement Agency;
        (6.)Inspectors of the United States Postal Service;
        (7.)Special Agents of the Criminal Investigation Division and Inspectors of the Internal Security Division of the Internal Revenue Service;
        (8.)Civilian Special Agents of the United States Naval Investigative Service;
        (9.)Marshals and Deputy Marshals of the United States Marshals Service;
        (10.)Special Agents of the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service;
        (11.)Special Agents of the United States Department of State, Bureau of Diplomatic Security
        (12.)A person designated as a Special Policeman by the Federal Protective Service of the General Services Administration under 40 U.S.C. Section 318 or 318d;
        (13.)A customs inspector of the United States Customs Service or a Border Patrolman or Immigration Officer of the United States Department of Justice;
        (14.)A commissioned law enforcement officer of the National Parks Service
        (15.)A Special Agent or Law Enforcement Officer of the United States Forest Service; and
        (16.)Security personnel working at a commercial nuclear power plant, including contract security personnel, trained and qualified under a security plan approved by the United States Nuclear Regulatory Commission


        Qualifying Federal Officers must:


        (1.)Have successfully completed an approved Federal Agency Law Enforcement training course (equivalent course topics and hours); and must be subject to continued employment or eligible for re-hire (excluding retirement); and
        (2.)Have honorably served (employed; benefits eligible) in one of the above federal capacities for twelve consecutive months, following initial basic training; and
        (3.)Have successfully completed a Supplementary Peace Officer training course, the curriculum of which is developed by TCLEOSE.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Raidergx View Post
          I read that it seems to tailor to Enlisted SF Personnel. I am talking about a Civilian DOD or DAF police officers that are not enlisted in the Air Force or other service.
          Where did you go to an academy and how long was it?

          That's going to be your first hurdle..
          "If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck"

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          • #6
            Its 5 weeks at the VALETC. Same training as AF security forces get. This is kind of a futuristic question. I got a position as a AF civilian cop. I would like to do Police reserves out in town some where if I can.

            I think I have to wait a year and I can challenge the test.
            Last edited by Raidergx; 05-12-2011, 02:03 AM. Reason: Horrible spelling errors

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Raidergx View Post
              Its 5 weeks at the VALETC. Same training as AF security forces get. This is kind of a futurist question. I got a position as a AF civilian cop. I would like to do Police reverses out in town some where if I can.

              I think I have to wait a year and I can challenge the test.
              You mean reserves?

              Also, if your academy was only 5 weeks your not going to be able to challenge the TCLEOSE test. There is an hour requirement as well as the other stipulations. 5 weeks isn't anywhere close to what you would need!!
              "If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck"

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              • #8
                Yes police reverses, you never heard of reverses...sorry for the spelling error.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Raidergx View Post
                  Yes police reverses, you never heard of reverses...sorry for the spelling error.
                  No state or any other Federal agency will accept the training that the VA gives. However if you attend the full 8 week course with the VA Police, then you could apply for a VA Police position being that you have already been through their 8 week course.

                  However why are you attempting to jump ship already? And as far as the Reserves goes. You would have to check on the base policy to see if that's even possible.
                  "An excuse is worse and more terrible than a lie, for an excuse is a lie guarded."

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                  • #10
                    Don't miss understand me I am not jumping ship on the Federal Gravy train. They (Air Force DOD Police) are matching my pay as a LEO for BOP at over 45k a year. No department can get close to that in the San Antonio area. I just like to stay up on the local law enforcement stuff, and work paid jobs if there are any.

                    I have a Ohio Police academy cert and a California POST academy cert. They are not active anymore but I think I have plenty of police training.
                    Last edited by Raidergx; 05-12-2011, 05:57 PM.

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                    • #11
                      regardless of what TCLEOSE will accept, your agency will most likely send you to an academy anyways.
                      Originally posted by crass cop
                      Just do it in front of a camera and try not to get a boner and you shoudl be fine.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Raidergx View Post
                        Don't miss understand me I am not jumping ship on the Federal Gravy train. They (Air Force DOD Police) are matching my pay as a LEO for BOP at over 45k a year. No department can get close to that in the San Antonio area. I just like to stay up on the local law enforcement stuff, and work paid jobs if there are any.

                        I have a Ohio Police academy cert and a California POST academy cert. They are not active anymore but I think I have plenty of police training.
                        So why not see if your other POST certs will transfer over? Or did not not actually become a LEO with them?

                        SAPD does get pretty close if not more then 45k once off probation.
                        "An excuse is worse and more terrible than a lie, for an excuse is a lie guarded."

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                        • #13
                          I am sure they have long expired. I emailed TCLEOSE we will see what they say.

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                          • #14
                            TCLEOSE lady said, no Air Force civilian police does not qualify for a waiver.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Raidergx View Post
                              TCLEOSE lady said, no Air Force civilian police does not qualify for a waiver.
                              Wasn't that stated in here already?
                              "An excuse is worse and more terrible than a lie, for an excuse is a lie guarded."

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