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    Police meet on layoffs


    By DAVID GAMBACORTA & CHRIS BRENNAN
    Philadelphia Daily News

    [email protected] 215-854-5994

    A SOMBER 11th-hour exercise, or an unnecessary attempt to create more panic?
    Those are among the opinions of a meeting Police Commissioner Charles H. Ramsey held last night with about 150 police officers who stand to lose their jobs, along with hundreds of other cops, if the city implements its dreaded "Plan C" budget.

    Ramsey and his top commanders stressed that they were unsure how the city's budget saga will end, but still detailed how the unemployment process would work for the 739 cops who could receive layoff notices tomorrow.

    "He wanted to say that we're here for you, that you're not just a name on a sheet of paper," said Deputy Commissioner Richard Ross, who attended the 5 p.m. meeting at the Police Academy in Northeast Philadelphia.

    "We're not going to turn our backs on them. If it [layoffs] does happen, we would have fundraisers for those who find themselves in dire situations," Ross said.

    Ramsey will host similar meetings at 11 a.m. and 11 p.m. today at the academy for other cops who could be laid off, he said.

    Some viewed the meetings as a spectacle orchestrated by Mayor Nutter's administration.

    "I don't think they needed to have a meeting. It's premature," said John McNesby, the president of the Fraternal Order of Police Lodge 5.

    McNesby said he has spent the past few weeks meeting with Democrats and Republicans in Harrisburg, and believes a resolution to the city's budget crisis will arrive "in the next few days."

    "You can't cry wolf too many times. To put fear in people in the community and the department while we're already under stress is just unnecessary," he added.

    If layoffs did sweep through the Police Department, Officer Richard Decoatsworth would be among those losing his job.

    "Here's a guy who had half his face blown off in Southwest Philly, was paraded in front of the camera with Michelle Obama, and then you're going to give him a layoff notice? This is what he gets back in return?

    "It just ain't going to work. We're talking about public safety," McNesby said.

    The city has pinned its budget hopes to legislation pending in the state General Assembly that would increase the local sales tax by 1 cent on the dollar and defer payments into the pension plan.

    That legislation has bounced back and forth between the state House and Senate for more than a month and is mired in the larger politics of a state budget impasse. Both Philadelphia and Pennsylvania were due to start their fiscal year 2010 budgets on July 1.

    The city's fallback budget calls for layoff notices to be issued tomorrow to 3,000 employees if that legislation is not approved, while also closing all library branches and recreation centers and slashing other services. The fallback budget eliminates 972 jobs in the Police Department, including 739 officers and 43 civilians along with 190 jobs left empty.

    The Senate Republicans, who control their chamber, plan to meet today to discuss the city's legislation and decide how to proceed.

    A vote by the full Senate could come as early as tomorrow afternoon or could be pushed into next week if the legislation is amended, as it has been once already by both the state House and Senate.

    Ross said Ramsey encouraged cops who attended yesterday's meetings to have their relatives call legislators in Harrisburg.

    "He had a simple message," Ross said. "He said, 'Tell them to pass the damn bill!' "

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    "We're not going to turn our backs on them. If it [layoffs] does happen, we would have fundraisers for those who find themselves in dire situations," Ross said.

    Bull****...... Once you are gone, you are on your own.

    If layoffs did sweep through the Police Department, Officer Richard Decoatsworth would be among those losing his job.

    You are only as good as your last heroic act. It makes you really ask the question was it really worth it when they hand you a piece of paper telling you that everything you did didn't matter. Its humiliating.

    If you were interested in the PPD this should be the writing on the wall to tell you to look elsewhere. It only proves that the cops are only a number. When they could even consider laying off a cop that had his face blown off that has to tell you something about the employer.

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    • #3
      Intresting sin ce P/O Decoatesworth was involved in a shooting in the 25th the other night.

      We need to get Nutter along with the rest of the cronies in council out of office now. The city does not need a state takeover.
      I don't answer recruitment messages....

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      • #4
        Yeah that has to make the guy feel really good right about now about working for the city. Thanks for getting shot and almost dying, thanks for all the confrontations you got into to protect our city, here is your pink slip. CYA....

        Got to make morale really high knowing you were considered to be laid off after all of that. But that is how it is. I experienced it first hand. I also saw guys with 20 plus years on the job leave very bitter because the city wanted to put them out to pasture. They didn't understand how they could just throw them away like yesterday's garbage after all they gave up.
        That is just how it is. You are only as good as what you can do today, not for what you did yesterday.

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        • #5
          If the city implemented plan c Richard Decoatsworth would NOT be amongst those that were laid off.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by catcop View Post
            If the city implemented plan c Richard Decoatsworth would NOT be amongst those that were laid off.
            It's moot for now, but your assertion is based on what? From what everyone else understands, civil service layoffs are done in reverse seniority, those with the least time on the job go first regardless of commendations or exemplary performance. Are you saying there was a special Officer Decoatsworth clause? Keep in mind while his injuries were the most highly publicized, his were not the only injuries sustained by new police. I don't have the stats, but I'd say the nature of the job and the nature of human ambition would dictate that in fact most police injuries happen to younger officers.

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            • #7
              That's true it is. However what it should make you think about is that you need to be careful while working. You aren't superman that can stop a speeding bullet with your hand. If you get hurt it could cause you life long devistation.

              It also should make you realize that the person next to you that comes to work late, calls out hungover and hangs out on jobs is counted the same as you that may come to work on time, rarely ever call out sick and answers the radio calls back to back non-stop.

              I am not saying that you should be a bum. But you really need to analyze a situation before you walk into it. That means you always wait for back-up before you do anything. Its not worth being a hero today and a zero tomorrow.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by catcop View Post
                If the city implemented plan c Richard Decoatsworth would NOT be amongst those that were laid off.
                Actually he would. The city can play favorites with one officer. THere would be about 300 cops suing the city and the FOP if they did. They were going to layoff classes from as far back as 2005
                I don't answer recruitment messages....

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