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Hello All,
I think this thread has gotten a little off topic. My advice to someone having a hard time with a polygraph follows:
1.) Write a letter requesting the polygraph results.
2.) Request to have a specific in-depth polygraph.
The Troopers are good about this from what people tell me. They will provide you with the info you need and should work with you if they think you will be an asset to the Division.
Yes, there is a lot of scientific evidence that proves there is no validity in the polygraph, unfortunately we have to deal with them to get into most agencies. If I were you I would just keep trying. You will pass some and fail others depending on the mood of the polygraph technician.
I do agree with Trooperden, in that you cannot know the education and background of the polygraph operator. I have met some of these guys in my time on the job and a lot of them have masters in psychology and other related fields. They are skilled interrogators. So you must have done something to set off their Spidy senses.
Of course the American Psychological Association has stated there in no scientific validity in the current polygraph technology even with the voice stress analyzer which most agencies don't even use. The Academy of Sciences has also came out against the polygraph. This is due mainly to the fact that the polygraph test is not standardized or replicatable. Two poplygraphist could question the same individual with the same exact questions and come up with separate results. We all know standardization and replication is the measure of good science. The why the SFST's (Standardized field sobriety tests) stand up in court. They were scientifically validated through multiple studies over many years. http://www.nhtsa.gov/people/injury/a...troduction.htm
Until the polygraph meets these basic scientific requirements it will always be considered voodoo or junk science.
I passed the polygraph with flying colors for my current agency, but failed one in the past. I'm applying to the Troopers and I intend to go into my examination with a positive attitude and tell the truth. That's all you can do. Yes the test is arbitrary and generally a pain, but we have no choice if we wish to serve the community.
Oh StateSecurity, my buddy just became an Air Marshal and I asked him how his polygraph went. To my surprise he advised me that the Air Marshals are one of the few federal law enforcement agencies not requiring one. They do an intensive background check and interview, but no poly. Might want to look into that!
Now to get back on topic has anyone heard how big the September class will be? Are they still talking about 75 cadets?
Simper Fi
I think this thread has gotten a little off topic. My advice to someone having a hard time with a polygraph follows:
1.) Write a letter requesting the polygraph results.
2.) Request to have a specific in-depth polygraph.
The Troopers are good about this from what people tell me. They will provide you with the info you need and should work with you if they think you will be an asset to the Division.
Yes, there is a lot of scientific evidence that proves there is no validity in the polygraph, unfortunately we have to deal with them to get into most agencies. If I were you I would just keep trying. You will pass some and fail others depending on the mood of the polygraph technician.
I do agree with Trooperden, in that you cannot know the education and background of the polygraph operator. I have met some of these guys in my time on the job and a lot of them have masters in psychology and other related fields. They are skilled interrogators. So you must have done something to set off their Spidy senses.
Of course the American Psychological Association has stated there in no scientific validity in the current polygraph technology even with the voice stress analyzer which most agencies don't even use. The Academy of Sciences has also came out against the polygraph. This is due mainly to the fact that the polygraph test is not standardized or replicatable. Two poplygraphist could question the same individual with the same exact questions and come up with separate results. We all know standardization and replication is the measure of good science. The why the SFST's (Standardized field sobriety tests) stand up in court. They were scientifically validated through multiple studies over many years. http://www.nhtsa.gov/people/injury/a...troduction.htm
Until the polygraph meets these basic scientific requirements it will always be considered voodoo or junk science.
I passed the polygraph with flying colors for my current agency, but failed one in the past. I'm applying to the Troopers and I intend to go into my examination with a positive attitude and tell the truth. That's all you can do. Yes the test is arbitrary and generally a pain, but we have no choice if we wish to serve the community.
Oh StateSecurity, my buddy just became an Air Marshal and I asked him how his polygraph went. To my surprise he advised me that the Air Marshals are one of the few federal law enforcement agencies not requiring one. They do an intensive background check and interview, but no poly. Might want to look into that!
Now to get back on topic has anyone heard how big the September class will be? Are they still talking about 75 cadets?
Simper Fi
They only have 3 ppl doing the checks. Maybe i'll be in line for the spring class though. Gotta be optimistic!
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