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  • updates regarding Columbus, Coleman, and the 6.8 billion dollar package

    This is interesting, I'm not sure what to really think about it. But if the messiah pulls through, things look "promising". Check it out.

    COLUMBUS, Ohio—From City Center to Columbus Commons, a plan has been set in motion to redesign the center of downtown and it sparked a flurry of feedback from NBC 4 viewers and nbc4i.com users.

    Columbus Commons will be a mix of residential, retail, office space and a park—an will cost $165 million.

    Developers and the city will be making large investments with the hope of at least $15 million from the federal government.

    City Center will be demolished in May and the goal is to have the commons finished by Fall 2010.

    There were more than 50 responses on how the plan for City Center is going to work in a city that is struggling with massive budget problems.

    One person said, “How about getting us out of the red and keeping us safe with more police officers. A green park is nice, but $165 million?“

    NBC 4‘s Mikaela Hunt found taxpayer money that could theoretically be used to help with the city’s budget will not be used for the majority of the project.

    “Phase 2: residential, retail and restaurant—that component of the site will be privately funded—also office space,“ said Guy Worley, of Capitol South. “We’re not going to be able to get private sector financing for retail, residential … until we remove the impediment for redevelopment.“

    Another viewer asked in regards to the current structure, “Can you say casino?“

    It’s not that easy, according to Capitol South, the private non-profit group that coordinates research and financing for the project. A casino wouldn’t be legal in Columbus.

    More importantly, when they reached out to potential tenants for City Center, remodeling the site would cost from $200 to $250 a square foot. To demolish the site and rebuild, it would cost $140 to $160 per square foot.

    Another viewer asked, “Is this housing at Columbus Commons going to be affordable? Less than $200,000?“

    NBC 4 had the same question. A housing study conducted on downtown said high-end condos are at full capacity, but there is a demand for affordable rentals.

    “We’re doing it right next door at Lifestyle Communities. This is a new development and rentals are from $700 to less than $1,000,“ said Mayor Michael Coleman.

    Several viewers also questioned whether federal stimulus money could actually be used to keep police officers on the streets.

    We’ve heard repeatedly from Gov. Ted Strickland and Coleman that federal stimulus money must go toward shovel ready projects or those that have a green component.

    But NBC 4 came across an interesting comment from President Barack Obama’s press secretary, talking about stimulus money for Columbus.

    Straight from a White House press briefing transcript, when asked about the stimulus package on Monday, Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said about Columbus Ohio, “I think it’s safest to assume that the president’s package … which address the need to ensure public safety isn’t threatened … and money specifically for police officers … my sense is that Columbus, Ohio is probably going to get some of that money.“

    But that was not part of Coleman’s federal stimulus request a few weeks ago because he didn’t know about it until recently.

    “We’ve also heard there is money available for possibly police,“ said Dan Williamson, of Mayor Coleman’s office.

    So we went straight to the source that may know the most about the package in Ohio—Senator Sherrod Brown.

    “Why hasn’t this been talked about at the local level until this point?“ Hunt asked.

    “I think it wasn’t clear what was going to be in the package,“ Brown said. “As the bill has progressed, there’s been other things to help communities, like police programs and firefighter programs.“

    This is just the cusp of what the money can be used for—revised by the Democratic Policy Committee on Thursday.

    Ohio is set to get $6.8 billion for infrastructure and science, education and training, energy, protecting the vulnerable, law enforcement, unemployment benefits and tax cuts.

    “We will be at the table. They mayor will be at the table, fighting hard for those dollars,“ Williamson said.

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    Originally posted by uanick View Post
    We’ve heard repeatedly from Gov. Ted Strickland and Coleman that federal stimulus money must go toward shovel ready projects or those that have a green component.
    Yeah, when Coleman speaks you'd better have your shovel ready!

    Seriously though, I hope some of the money that the gub'ment is taking from me and my kids will make its way to local public safety.
    Last edited by Tall Cool 1; 02-06-2009, 07:27 AM.

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    • #3
      It completely blows my mind that the Mayor focuses so much of his interest on building when he just laid off 27 officers and threw out 1.2 million of taxpayer's money out the window. He can go green and build until he is blue in the face but people will not live or work in unsafe environment's.

      Sacarficing public safety should not be an option, look at what it has done to Cleveland!!! Columbus has approximately 1900 officers and a population around 700,000 with about 110 or 120 homicides a year. Cleveland has about 1700 officers and a population of 400,000 with 120 homicides. Basically, Cleveland has a little more than half the population of Columbus and the same amount or more homicides. Columbus is undermaned with only 1900 officers, they should have at least 2100 officers, if not more.. Cleveland is way undermaned with 1700!!! Hopefully the Mayor cares more about public safety than we think and pushes for funding for recruits!!

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      • #4
        You guys do realize that you can't spend every cent on public safety right? People will not live and work in an area that looks depressed and has nothing going on. Who cares if he wants to spend the money on a project that could benefit the city in the long term.....

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Harmody Park View Post
          You guys do realize that you can't spend every cent on public safety right? People will not live and work in an area that looks depressed and has nothing going on. Who cares if he wants to spend the money on a project that could benefit the city in the long term.....

          We are in the middle of an economic crisis nationwide. All government money needs to be pooled and go to support the infrastructure, not prettying up the area. Columbus is far from a run down city. In a few years, when the economy takes an upswing, then perhaps we can focus on beautification and development, until then, we need to support what we already have in place.

          This is the typical problem with government spending, and part of the reason we're having the problem we are. There are actually municipalities across the nation that have practiced responsible spending for years, and guess what, they ARENT hurting.
          Seriously, the only reason I wanted to be a cop was so I could post anywhere on this forum.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Harmody Park View Post
            You guys do realize that you can't spend every cent on public safety right? People will not live and work in an area that looks depressed and has nothing going on. Who cares if he wants to spend the money on a project that could benefit the city in the long term.....
            A big percentage of the any large city budget is spent on the safety forces. I don't know the last time you were in downtown Columbus, but it's pretty nice. Especially the main intersection, Broad & High. Downtown Cleveland can't compare in aesthetes, including Public Square. Unless it has drastically been rebuilt in the last few years. And by the way, before you slam me regarding 'how do you know'. I was born and raised in Cleveland. I know the city sites. The mayor down here is off base with those (potential) funds for the City Center at this time. Maybe in the future, but not now. Just my opinion.
            The views/opinions expressed here are solely mine. I'm retired and I don't care. I truly do not want to offend anyone, but if you are thin skinned and have no sense of humor, you better find another line of work. Therefore, I don't have to be politically correct and I will exercise my freedom of speech, until it's taken away. May God bless all retirees. We've done our duty and earned our peace.

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            • #7
              Are you stupid? Columbus being "ran down?!" Hell in forbes magazine it was the 1st or 2nd best place to retire.

              Delaware County Burbs 10 min away from columbus was rated "best place to raise a family"

              Columbus does not need a place like this, why not just make it a cool little place to sit and eat like a park in the middle of the madness.

              Support jobs we need, dont make ones that will potentially fail like this looks to do.
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