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  • Anti-crime
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    Originally posted by gbotj View Post
    CO HOPEFUL is correct, the agreement with MTA and DCAS is MTA will administer the examination and then all test materials and results are sent to DCAS for review and certification. DCAS then certifies the list and publishes it. At this point, the list IS certified however has not been published.

    As far as a merger, it’s already been done in the MTAPD, when MNRRPD and LIRRPD merged there were 2 seniority lists for the MTA system, if you remained in your system you followed your original seniority, outside your system you followed a MTA seniority. I would assume this would continue to be the case. SIRT Police merged in with MTAPD and kept their 25 year retirement plan rather than gain the MTA Police Special 20 year retirement, I would believe TBTA would keep the 20/50. As far as training considerations, we are being told (right now) that everyone will be sent to NYPD academy for PO training. Please keep in mind, everything except the last point I have made is merely speculation, and even the portion about training is only to bring everyone up to par with NYPD and MTAPD training-wise. They are not negotiating a merger at this point, however it looks like in the future that’s most likely what will happen.
    Interesting , my bad co hopefull

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  • gbotj
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    CO HOPEFUL is correct, the agreement with MTA and DCAS is MTA will administer the examination and then all test materials and results are sent to DCAS for review and certification. DCAS then certifies the list and publishes it. At this point, the list IS certified however has not been published.

    As far as a merger, it’s already been done in the MTAPD, when MNRRPD and LIRRPD merged there were 2 seniority lists for the MTA system, if you remained in your system you followed your original seniority, outside your system you followed a MTA seniority. I would assume this would continue to be the case. SIRT Police merged in with MTAPD and kept their 25 year retirement plan rather than gain the MTA Police Special 20 year retirement, I would believe TBTA would keep the 20/50. As far as training considerations, we are being told (right now) that everyone will be sent to NYPD academy for PO training. Please keep in mind, everything except the last point I have made is merely speculation, and even the portion about training is only to bring everyone up to par with NYPD and MTAPD training-wise. They are not negotiating a merger at this point, however it looks like in the future that’s most likely what will happen.

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  • Anti-crime
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    Your completely wrong mta gave the exam DCAS has nothing to do with it. And it's NOT a NYC civil service exam if it's not a city agency. Are you on the job as a CO?

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  • CO HOPEFUL
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    I know they are not a city agency but the exam
    Is still a nyc civil service exam . Dcas scores and creates the list for it .

  • Anti-crime
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    Okay thats cool, TBTA is not a city agency ............ In the past TBTA had Dcas administer their BTO exams for them but as far as exam 5606 MTA administered that exam.
    Last edited by Anti-crime ; 06-19-2019, 11:21 AM.

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  • CO HOPEFUL
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    It doesn’t matter who administers the exam . Dcas is responsible for scoring and creating the list for all city exams . They are the governing body for all Nyc civil service exams

  • Anti-crime
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    Originally posted by nycapomts View Post

    Really, I am going to to take a walk to DCAS and ask see what information I can get.
    DCAS did not administer the test it was done by MTA

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  • Anti-crime
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    Originally posted by gbotj View Post
    Well the merger talks definitely aren’t merely a rumor at this point, however there is nothing too substantial for me to believe otherwise this early in the game. Things with Tbta change every year, we have so many outside influences on our job that one minute the mta makes a decision, followed by the governors office making another call, then finally Tbta decides to do something they want. Between the economic downfall circa 2008-2010 when TBTA was pinching pennies, to cuomo ordering cashless tolling and elimination portions of the job, working with the troopers, and now basically doing the job of MTAPD and NYPD Transit. The truth is no one knows what’s going on other than the mta telling us they plan on using us in the subways for a long long time and that it’s going to be a major function of our job.
    I think some people think the merger is a 1-2-3 thing since there both "MTA". But the first problem I see is TBTA is civil service MTAPD is not then you have seniority issues and not to mention TBTA are peace officers and MTAPD are police officers. If you don't believe I definitely don't at least not in the near future. Maybe a couple of years ? Who knows . But if TBTA officer are going to get a nice retro I see a whole lot of them leaving .

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  • gbotj
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    Well the merger talks definitely aren’t merely a rumor at this point, however there is nothing too substantial for me to believe otherwise this early in the game. Things with Tbta change every year, we have so many outside influences on our job that one minute the mta makes a decision, followed by the governors office making another call, then finally Tbta decides to do something they want. Between the economic downfall circa 2008-2010 when TBTA was pinching pennies, to cuomo ordering cashless tolling and elimination portions of the job, working with the troopers, and now basically doing the job of MTAPD and NYPD Transit. The truth is no one knows what’s going on other than the mta telling us they plan on using us in the subways for a long long time and that it’s going to be a major function of our job.

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  • nycapomts
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    By far this Agency is very unorganized but then again it is the MTA, what I do know is that alot of this folks on the job know something and are not sharing it. I truly wish they would hire. Don't understand the point spending lots of money on a new academy facility etc if no plan in hiring.

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  • nycapomts
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    Originally posted by nycapomts View Post
    Hi guys, so my contact told me that it looks more like a merger happing with MTAPD this first time he tells me this. Also he said that DCAS has the exam and waiting to stablish the list, I find that weird because it was MTA that gave the exam.
    Really, I am going to to take a walk to DCAS and ask see what information I can get.

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  • Anti-crime
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    Originally posted by CloudPuncher View Post
    A LT who is on the BTOBA board told me himself that they were in the process of certifying the list and will be hiring off it when he came to my agency for training. Maybe someone who's on the job like gbotj can confirm. I will ask a friend who works at QMT. I know people are hesitant to believe they will actually hire because of the whole fiasco with this exam but let's stay positive. If you don't know or haven't heard anything from a competent authority, don't state things matter-of-factly.
    It's crazy how people listhen to made up merger talks then people actually on the job

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  • CloudPuncher
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    A LT who is on the BTOBA board told me himself that they were in the process of certifying the list and will be hiring off it when he came to my agency for training. Maybe someone who's on the job like gbotj can confirm. I will ask a friend who works at QMT. I know people are hesitant to believe they will actually hire because of the whole fiasco with this exam but let's stay positive. If you don't know or haven't heard anything from a competent authority, don't state things matter-of-factly.

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  • CO HOPEFUL
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    I don’t understand why they changed the wage progression and medical costs if they don’t even plan on hiring. Makes no sense at all

  • CO HOPEFUL
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    The word is never

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