You are so wrong, it is laughable. I suggest you read the NYS CPL Sect 140 on arrests by Peace Officers. And, obviously you are claiming to a Fed, an uneducated one, but a Fed. Please note that all State level LEOs are governed by LEOSA when it comes to interstate travel. BTOs have long carried out their mission without assistance from other agencies. What you are witnessing is another skirmish in the battle for dominance between Cuomo and DeBlasio.
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Originally posted by Dinosaur32 View PostYou are so wrong, it is laughable. I suggest you read the NYS CPL Sect 140 on arrests by Peace Officers. And, obviously you are claiming to a Fed, an uneducated one, but a Fed. Please note that all State level LEOs are governed by LEOSA when it comes to interstate travel. BTOs have long carried out their mission without assistance from other agencies. What you are witnessing is another skirmish in the battle for dominance between Cuomo and DeBlasio.(not saying am above the law) but sure love the respect.
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Robert, you must have slept through English 101 and Ethics class. Dinosaur32 is a respected member of these forums and he knows what he's talking about. All Feds are peace officers in NYC. When you have a collar you take him to the local precinct. You ask that desk Sgt for a pedigree card, you use their computers. You are in PD's house so slow your role. If you think BTOs can't arrest without a warrant, you should test that theory yourself and see what happens. It's people like you that give law enforcement a bad name and make other agencies not want to give a courtesy because that's just what it is, a COURTESY, not a guarantee. They only let you go because it's not worth the headache. Your ignorance and arrogance is astonishing and it will catch up with you eventually.
Where's CCCSD when you need him?
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Originally posted by CloudPuncher View PostRobert, you must have slept through English 101 and Ethics class. Dinosaur32 is a respected member of these forums and he knows what he's talking about. All Feds are peace officers in NYC. When you have a collar you take him to the local precinct. You ask that desk Sgt for a pedigree card, you use their computers. You are in PD's house so slow your role. If you think BTOs can't arrest without a warrant, you should test that theory yourself and see what happens. It's people like you that give law enforcement a bad name and make other agencies not want to give a courtesy because that's just what it is, a COURTESY, not a guarantee. They only let you go because it's not worth the headache. Your ignorance and arrogance is astonishing and it will catch up with you eventually.
Where's CCCSD when you need him?55.......
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Originally posted by CloudPuncher View PostRobert, you must have slept through English 101 and Ethics class. Dinosaur32 is a respected member of these forums and he knows what he's talking about. All Feds are peace officers in NYC. When you have a collar you take him to the local precinct. You ask that desk Sgt for a pedigree card, you use their computers. You are in PD's house so slow your role. If you think BTOs can't arrest without a warrant, you should test that theory yourself and see what happens. It's people like you that give law enforcement a bad name and make other agencies not want to give a courtesy because that's just what it is, a COURTESY, not a guarantee. They only let you go because it's not worth the headache. Your ignorance and arrogance is astonishing and it will catch up with you eventually.
Where's CCCSD when you need him?
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Wow Robert. I'm sorry for your bitterness and animosity towards a particular group of law enforcement officers. It's a surprising attitude coming from a federal officer/agent. Most Fed's that I have had the pleasure of interacting with were humble professionals.
But maybe that's because I have a similar degree like yours hanging on my wall as well. Along with my countless certificates from military service. Maybe that's why they were professional and not narcissistic. No, I don't think that's it either. Maybe it was the mutual respect we showed each other for our professions.
Six months away at FLETC is a sacrifice. No doubt. So are deployments all over the world. Years at a clip at times. But that doesn't matter. It was what I volunteered to do and wouldn't take it back for anything in the world.
Maybe I had you on a vehicle stop. I probably showed you courtesy and cut a break. Why? Because I am a professional. All we (good guys) have out here is us, and yes a few good citizens.
I wish you well sir. I have no animosity towards you or your opinions. Yes, your opinions. I am sure that those opinions and comments are not reflective of your respective agency.
I will perform my job, whether I am a peace officer, police officer or whatever other title or classification they come up with, with utmost pride and dedication.
Sincerely, a proud Bridge & Tunnel Officer.
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I will stand by my post that your comments were uneducated. You obviously do not understand the nature of the Peace Officer titles in New York State. By the way, since you brought up the subject of warrants, feds cannot arrest with a state court issued warrant in their face, unless the local police assist. You are correct in that BTOs cannot arrest on the warrant....but they usually learn of the warrant after they have made a stop for a separate infraction. Sounds like good POLICE work to me.
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Robert is a moron.. I'll take my high school diploma and store it right next to my $130k+ a year W2's all for working 3 12 hour tours a week being a lowly tbta guy..
Hey Rob, good luck helping me out in the course of your duties like we did for you..cause I find myself in the middle of federal investigations all the time *sigh*.
the innacuracies on this thread are ridiculous. We continue to run all of our facilities just like we used to, NYSP assigns 1 car to the bridge to sit in a high visibility spot..just to **** off deblasio.sigpic
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I'm a BTO. Your gold tin does not mean anything to me if you displayed that attitude. You a FED?? Good for you! You want a cookie? What has a FED ever done for me??? Hmm, let me think..... Absolutely nothing. So get off your high horse and don't think that you can't be cited. I was really close to collaring a customs agent once for OGA. Don't think you are above the law cause of your tin buddy. Oh and it's courtesy not curtessy..That bull**** degree did wonders.
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Hey BTOs..whats the deal with the new car paintings? I have to say it looks awesome, cant hardly tell the difference, only by the license plates...is this also one of Cuomos new thing against De Blasio?Last edited by Robert_212; 02-06-2017, 10:54 PM.
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Originally posted by Robert_212 View Post
at the end of the day BTOs are peace officers, just like hospital police, park rangers, Co-op police, BTOs can't even arrest someone with a warrant in their face without having to call local PD. can't even travel across state line with their firearms without LEOSA (me on the other hand) dont need LEOSA to carry across the nation. (but again am at a different ballgame). can't knock BTOs for their job. been stopped twice by them. once they seen my creds and gold badge, down the road i've gone. at least they've shown curtessy as i would also if i encounter one of them while performing my job duties. after seeing them get reenforced by NYS police, show me that this agency can't carry out their mission on their own. in my opinion this agency should had been a full blown law enforcement agency by now, another reason why i believe this BTO job will be phasing out soon. wouldn't be surprised knowing their back bone is toll collecting, they turn them BTOs to station agents at train stations around the boroughs. But let see, i MIGHT consider going through their 12 week training just to compare it to my 6 month academy at FLETC if they ever call me.Captain Square Badge, reporting for duty!.
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Also last I checked, there is a whole slew of federal Leo's in cpl 2.10 and listed as peace officers.
Get off your high horse. You are not an 1811 most likely, maybe a "police officer" in a booth somewhere. If you are an 1811, god bless your coworkers. But I doubt it.
Nevermind. I just noticed you are a passport stamper aka cbp officer. No wonder you are so ****ed off. Oh damn what do you know... cbp passport stampers are peace officers in the nys cpl.
What's that you say? You seize drugs and weapons all day? In a controlled environment with dogs and computers telling you information you need to know?
The CG does more police work and seizures no doubt about it.
Look, I have no issues with CBP. Although I have no need for CBP in regards to any favors coming into the USA upon my return flights. But my point is, you don't like how it feels right?
Now go back in your booth and stamp my damn passport.Last edited by NYCTNT; 02-07-2017, 07:21 AM.Captain Square Badge, reporting for duty!.
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