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  • Originally posted by Vista View Post
    It just means that the Psych Dept cleared you for hire. You still must pass all other phases of testing- and hope theh reach your exam and list number.

    Just because you get hired- skeletons can come back to bite you until your off probation. Some will even say your never "in the clear" because this is an agency who has no issue hanging you out to dry.
    At What phase do you think alot of candidates get disqualified?. Is it the Oral Psych where 50% of candidates get dropped?

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    • Originally posted by jack_rubix2 View Post
      At What phase do you think alot of candidates get disqualified?. Is it the Oral Psych where 50% of candidates get dropped?
      Psych and 'negative' Character issues.

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      • Originally posted by Vista View Post
        It just means that the Psych Dept cleared you for hire. You still must pass all other phases of testing- and hope theh reach your exam and list number.

        Just because you get hired- skeletons can come back to bite you until your off probation. Some will even say your never "in the clear" because this is an agency who has no issue hanging you out to dry.

        Even if you clear the probationary period; there is a three year time frame window from the date of appointment in which you can be terminated for "negative" background issues which were NOT known at the time of the original appointment. However; if it involves an omission of material fact [falsified statements] by the applicant--then termination from public employment can occur at any time.


        In addition to termination; the person making the false statement or omission on a public service employment application opens him or her self open to possible criminal charges and prosecution.
        Last edited by CountyCorrectionOfficer; 03-30-2015, 03:00 PM.

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        • Havent been on in a while. My friend failed the psych exam for PD but since has been on with DOC for about 5 years. They just called him to process for PD again should he go through with it or not?
          FDNY

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          • Originally posted by Toxicity4 View Post
            Havent been on in a while. My friend failed the psych exam for PD but since has been on with DOC for about 5 years. They just called him to process for PD again should he go through with it or not?
            Go for it...he has nothing to lose.

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            • Originally posted by CountyCorrectionOfficer View Post
              Go for it...he has nothing to lose.
              He was 21 at the time hes 26 he has no tickets or arrests in his life time im guessing they disqualified him for being immature... U think he has a shot?
              FDNY

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              • Originally posted by Toxicity4 View Post
                He was 21 at the time hes 26 he has no tickets or arrests in his life time im guessing they disqualified him for being immature... U think he has a shot?

                If he has a good work record at DOC i.e. no disciplinary charges; I would think so.

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                • Originally posted by Toxicity4 View Post
                  Havent been on in a while. My friend failed the psych exam for PD but since has been on with DOC for about 5 years. They just called him to process for PD again should he go through with it or not?
                  absolutely
                  Problems with a psych exam?
                  Have an upcoming
                  PSYCHOLOGICAL EXAM that you NEED to PREPARE for?


                  If your Disqualified, Pressured too withdraw, Recieved a Proposed DQ or want to talk about the appeal process- check these guys out. Doesnt hurt too call them- free, detailed telepone consultation before
                  you make up your mind.
                  WWW.LAWENFORCEMENTPEPTALK.COM



                  Attorney Rob Kronenberg WWW.RKRONENBERGLAW.COM

                  Appeal Psychologist: Mark Lerner
                  http://www.crisisdoctors.com/Site/Dr._Mark_Lerner.html

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                  • Originally posted by CountyCorrectionOfficer View Post

                    Even if you clear the probationary period; there is a three year time frame window from the date of appointment in which you can be terminated for "negative" background issues which were NOT known at the time of the original appointment. However; if it involves an omission of material fact [falsified statements] by the applicant--then termination from public employment can occur at any time.


                    In addition to termination; the person making the false statement or omission on a public service employment application opens him or her self open to possible criminal charges and prosecution.

                    Exactly. they yank guys outta thr academy all the time.
                    Problems with a psych exam?
                    Have an upcoming
                    PSYCHOLOGICAL EXAM that you NEED to PREPARE for?


                    If your Disqualified, Pressured too withdraw, Recieved a Proposed DQ or want to talk about the appeal process- check these guys out. Doesnt hurt too call them- free, detailed telepone consultation before
                    you make up your mind.
                    WWW.LAWENFORCEMENTPEPTALK.COM



                    Attorney Rob Kronenberg WWW.RKRONENBERGLAW.COM

                    Appeal Psychologist: Mark Lerner
                    http://www.crisisdoctors.com/Site/Dr._Mark_Lerner.html

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                    • Originally posted by Toxicity4 View Post
                      He was 21 at the time hes 26 he has no tickets or arrests in his life time im guessing they disqualified him for being immature... U think he has a shot?
                      Yes he does. The vintage and frequency of the circumstances that led to his prior DQ are seriously weighed. He will want to show how his life has changed- etc.

                      Send me a Email if you want, its hard to type on here on my phone. Its impossible to know why he was originally DQ'd- unless he had appealed and recieved his file. Its often not what you think or not just what you think.

                      Matt
                      Problems with a psych exam?
                      Have an upcoming
                      PSYCHOLOGICAL EXAM that you NEED to PREPARE for?


                      If your Disqualified, Pressured too withdraw, Recieved a Proposed DQ or want to talk about the appeal process- check these guys out. Doesnt hurt too call them- free, detailed telepone consultation before
                      you make up your mind.
                      WWW.LAWENFORCEMENTPEPTALK.COM



                      Attorney Rob Kronenberg WWW.RKRONENBERGLAW.COM

                      Appeal Psychologist: Mark Lerner
                      http://www.crisisdoctors.com/Site/Dr._Mark_Lerner.html

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                      • Originally posted by Vista View Post
                        Exactly. they yank guys outta thr academy all the time.
                        That's called summarily dismissal. Reason given: Falsification of records. Worse than being disqualified off the list and signals the end of the line for that individual being employed by the City or state government.

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                        • Originally posted by CountyCorrectionOfficer View Post
                          That's called summarily dismissal. Reason given: Falsification of records. Worse than being disqualified off the list and signals the end of the line for that individual being employed by the City or state government.
                          Even getting caught in a lie and DQ over it is hard to overcome.

                          I read a case where the city terminated a PO even after the three years for not disclosing adolescent psychtrrstmenr. I believe he was 15 year vet; civil service reinstated him, nypd filed an article 78, and lost
                          Problems with a psych exam?
                          Have an upcoming
                          PSYCHOLOGICAL EXAM that you NEED to PREPARE for?


                          If your Disqualified, Pressured too withdraw, Recieved a Proposed DQ or want to talk about the appeal process- check these guys out. Doesnt hurt too call them- free, detailed telepone consultation before
                          you make up your mind.
                          WWW.LAWENFORCEMENTPEPTALK.COM



                          Attorney Rob Kronenberg WWW.RKRONENBERGLAW.COM

                          Appeal Psychologist: Mark Lerner
                          http://www.crisisdoctors.com/Site/Dr._Mark_Lerner.html

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                          • Originally posted by Vista View Post
                            Even getting caught in a lie and DQ over it is hard to overcome.

                            I read a case where the city terminated a PO even after the three years for not disclosing adolescent psychtrrstmenr. I believe he was 15 year vet; civil service reinstated him, nypd filed an article 78, and lost
                            In a case as that beyond the three year period after original appointment has passed; the municipality has TWO options. The first, and most common is Civil Service Article 75 disciplinary proceedings of 'falsified records' which can occur at anytime during one's public service career. The second scenerio is going to the Civil Service Commission requesting that the certified eligibility and appointment be revoked on the basis of fraud.

                            For those hired on a probationary/provisional basis; summarily termination can take place immediately without any sort of due process.

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                            • anybody waiting to hear back from civil service commission? I've been waiting for almost 8 months.
                              Exam # 6315
                              Orientation:
                              Medical:
                              Agility:
                              Written Psych:
                              Oral Psych:
                              PE:

                              Waiting impatiently..

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                              • Originally posted by jay91 View Post
                                anybody waiting to hear back from civil service commission? I've been waiting for almost 8 months.
                                It takes a while. I think it was about 9 mo ths from the time the NYPD affirmed my DQ to the time civil service entered a decision.

                                Was it a psych dq? Who did you use?
                                Problems with a psych exam?
                                Have an upcoming
                                PSYCHOLOGICAL EXAM that you NEED to PREPARE for?


                                If your Disqualified, Pressured too withdraw, Recieved a Proposed DQ or want to talk about the appeal process- check these guys out. Doesnt hurt too call them- free, detailed telepone consultation before
                                you make up your mind.
                                WWW.LAWENFORCEMENTPEPTALK.COM



                                Attorney Rob Kronenberg WWW.RKRONENBERGLAW.COM

                                Appeal Psychologist: Mark Lerner
                                http://www.crisisdoctors.com/Site/Dr._Mark_Lerner.html

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