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  • Originally posted by Vista View Post
    stop emailing the oaych for one. Keep in touch with your Investigator- every month or so. You will either continue the process, or recieve a Notice of Proposed DQ in which you are afforded the chance to submit an outside psychological opinion, for the NYPD to consider. You will NOT ever recieve a letter that you are on review.
    ok thank you for the info. i dont want it to seem like i have been annoying the psych.. i just emailed him in the2 week time frame he wanted more info and asked me a question which he never emailed back. once the deadline was up i did not email him i thought all was well. thanks again for the info!
    Exam 2326
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    • Nice, went to go see the psych dept today, he just needed some clarification on a few questions, provided him with that information and looks like I'm good to go. He didn't tell me I need to provide any thing further or if there is anything else that I need to be worried about. So I'm hoping everything is now clarified and I just sit around and wait.

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      • Originally posted by longislander23 View Post
        ok thank you for the info. i dont want it to seem like i have been annoying the psych.. i just emailed him in the2 week time frame he wanted more info and asked me a question which he never emailed back. once the deadline was up i did not email him i thought all was well. thanks again for the info!

        Which psych did u have? Pm me if u remember the name
        Problems with a psych exam?
        Have an upcoming
        PSYCHOLOGICAL EXAM that you NEED to PREPARE for?


        If your Disqualified, Pressured too withdraw, Recieved a Proposed DQ or want to talk about the appeal process- check these guys out. Doesnt hurt too call them- free, detailed telepone consultation before
        you make up your mind.
        WWW.LAWENFORCEMENTPEPTALK.COM



        Attorney Rob Kronenberg WWW.RKRONENBERGLAW.COM

        Appeal Psychologist: Mark Lerner
        http://www.crisisdoctors.com/Site/Dr._Mark_Lerner.html

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        • Originally posted by morafiq View Post
          Nice, went to go see the psych dept today, he just needed some clarification on a few questions, provided him with that information and looks like I'm good to go. He didn't tell me I need to provide any thing further or if there is anything else that I need to be worried about. So I'm hoping everything is now clarified and I just sit around and wait.

          Give it a few days and call your Investigator. He will know if Psych Services marked you Qualified or, if theirs an issue. He wont know details however.
          Problems with a psych exam?
          Have an upcoming
          PSYCHOLOGICAL EXAM that you NEED to PREPARE for?


          If your Disqualified, Pressured too withdraw, Recieved a Proposed DQ or want to talk about the appeal process- check these guys out. Doesnt hurt too call them- free, detailed telepone consultation before
          you make up your mind.
          WWW.LAWENFORCEMENTPEPTALK.COM



          Attorney Rob Kronenberg WWW.RKRONENBERGLAW.COM

          Appeal Psychologist: Mark Lerner
          http://www.crisisdoctors.com/Site/Dr._Mark_Lerner.html

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          • hi for those of you who are on psyche review , is there any way to make nypd come up with a final decision to whether a candidate goes on or gets disqualified???? anyone???? can an attorney be brought to make nypd make faster decision??? anyone any ideas??/ they keep telling my friend he will get something in mail half year before his exam expires... anyone knows what those "half year before exam expires" mail letters are???
            Last edited by Wolf_1; 01-23-2015, 11:47 PM.

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            • I've been on Psych Review for almost 11 months and I most likely have a lower list number than Morafiq (2XX). I have not heard from anyone. Will they just wait till Jan 2016 for DQ?

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              • Originally posted by Waiting 37 View Post
                I've been on Psych Review for almost 11 months and I most likely have a lower list number than Morafiq (2XX). I have not heard from anyone. Will they just wait till Jan 2016 for DQ?
                I'm not sure about this at all to be honest. I was never on review, when the psych spoke to me it all made sense because he actually forgot to talk to me about something listed on my file. So I'm not on review or anything of that nature. Honestly, I'm not sure of the proper answer for your question but I can only imagine the stress... like a lot of veteran posters on this forum have said before, APPLY APPLY and then APPLY some more. I understand you may have a strong yearning to work for the NYPD, believe me... I feel the same way. But at the same time there are other departments... does it mean starting a process all over with a different department? Sure. But it also means another opportunity, another interview to attempt to impress and show the board that you are fit for the job and would bring something positive to the department.

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                • Originally posted by Wolf_1 View Post
                  hi for those of you who are on psyche review , is there any way to make nypd come up with a final decision to whether a candidate goes on or gets disqualified???? anyone???? can an attorney be brought to make nypd make faster decision??? anyone any ideas??/ they keep telling my friend he will get something in mail half year before his exam expires... anyone knows what those "half year before exam expires" mail letters are???
                  In extreme cases, their are options. Is he on psych review or investigative review? Psych review typically takes about 6-10 months for a final status. Investigative review can take longer- but they have been working too change this.

                  Ifin an extreme case it becomes necessary- an attempt to force a decision is possible through an Article 78- but you can bet your bottom dollar that will result in a DQ (backing them into a corner may be your only option if their planning to indefinately keep you on hold).

                  Have your buddy (or you) email me at [email protected]

                  those letters are notices of proposed dq. Basically giving you the chance to submit an argument supporting your fitness for the job. Heres a good video-http://youtu.be/YLlAfNX4aL0
                  Last edited by Vista; 01-26-2015, 08:41 AM.
                  Problems with a psych exam?
                  Have an upcoming
                  PSYCHOLOGICAL EXAM that you NEED to PREPARE for?


                  If your Disqualified, Pressured too withdraw, Recieved a Proposed DQ or want to talk about the appeal process- check these guys out. Doesnt hurt too call them- free, detailed telepone consultation before
                  you make up your mind.
                  WWW.LAWENFORCEMENTPEPTALK.COM



                  Attorney Rob Kronenberg WWW.RKRONENBERGLAW.COM

                  Appeal Psychologist: Mark Lerner
                  http://www.crisisdoctors.com/Site/Dr._Mark_Lerner.html

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                  • SOME CANDIDATES HAVE BEEN BEING CALLED IN FOR A ONE ON ONE INTERVIEW WITH A LIEUTENANT (Lt. Chappell) AT NYPD MEDICAL DIVISION ONLY TO BE PRESSURED TOO WITHDRAW- WHILE SIMULTANIOUSLY BEING HANDED A NOTICE OF PROPOSED DISQUALIFICATION. IF YOUR CALLED IN, ID STRONGLY CONSIDER YOUR OPTIONS IN ADVANCE OF THIS MEETING. ITS A BIG DECISION TO BE FORCED TO MAKE ON THE SPOT.

                    IF YOU GET A CALL LIKE THIS, SEND ME A PM (PREFERABLY AN EMAIL).
                    Problems with a psych exam?
                    Have an upcoming
                    PSYCHOLOGICAL EXAM that you NEED to PREPARE for?


                    If your Disqualified, Pressured too withdraw, Recieved a Proposed DQ or want to talk about the appeal process- check these guys out. Doesnt hurt too call them- free, detailed telepone consultation before
                    you make up your mind.
                    WWW.LAWENFORCEMENTPEPTALK.COM



                    Attorney Rob Kronenberg WWW.RKRONENBERGLAW.COM

                    Appeal Psychologist: Mark Lerner
                    http://www.crisisdoctors.com/Site/Dr._Mark_Lerner.html

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                    • These time frames are really disappointing. I met with my investigator last week and she told me I was on review. Sounds like the test will expire before some of us can get off review


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                      • Originally posted by Vista View Post
                        SOME CANDIDATES HAVE BEEN BEING CALLED IN FOR A ONE ON ONE INTERVIEW WITH A LIEUTENANT (Lt. Chappell) AT NYPD MEDICAL DIVISION ONLY TO BE PRESSURED TOO WITHDRAW- WHILE SIMULTANIOUSLY BEING HANDED A NOTICE OF PROPOSED DISQUALIFICATION. IF YOUR CALLED IN, ID STRONGLY CONSIDER YOUR OPTIONS IN ADVANCE OF THIS MEETING. ITS A BIG DECISION TO BE FORCED TO MAKE ON THE SPOT.

                        IF YOU GET A CALL LIKE THIS, SEND ME A PM (PREFERABLY AN EMAIL).

                        Why can't NYPD just administer the MMPI Inventory Test instead of this psych interview nonsense which most police agencies don't do. Sad because many a good potential officer gets eliminated out of the process.

                        Most likely, the LT assigned to the NYPD medical unit will ask the candidate to sign a "letter of declination" which will effectively remove the candidate off the civil service list of eligibles. However; the psych disqualification still stands even if the candidate signs off on it.
                        Last edited by CountyCorrectionOfficer; 01-27-2015, 06:43 AM.

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                        • Originally posted by Vista View Post
                          In extreme cases, their are options. Is he on psych review or investigative review? Psych review typically takes about 6-10 months for a final status. Investigative review can take longer- but they have been working too change this.

                          Ifin an extreme case it becomes necessary- an attempt to force a decision is possible through an Article 78- but you can bet your bottom dollar that will result in a DQ (backing them into a corner may be your only option if their planning to indefinately keep you on hold).

                          Have your buddy (or you) email me at [email protected]

                          those letters are notices of proposed dq. Basically giving you the chance to submit an argument supporting your fitness for the job. Heres a good video-http://youtu.be/YLlAfNX4aL0
                          Article 78 proceedings in state court are reviewed to ascertain whether a decision by a governmental body is arbitrary or capacious. In the case of law enforcement candidate fitness determinations, the courts have consistently upheld the appointing officer decisions in hiring applicants for law enforcement positions. The court's reasoning is that LEO positions require public trust and confidence and are of a sensitive nature.

                          However; what might be an unacceptable employment matter-medical, character or psych issue- to a police agency could be acceptable to another agency. Many factors enter into the equation of receiving an LEO appointment. NYPD uses a predetermined list of disqualification attributes and the least little thing wrong with the candidate will result in disqualification. Remember with NYPD there are no shortage of 'qualified' candidates. In upstate rural New York, it’s WHO you are or WHO you know to get an LEO position in local government.
                          Last edited by CountyCorrectionOfficer; 01-27-2015, 10:43 AM.

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                          • Originally posted by CountyCorrectionOfficer View Post

                            Why can't NYPD just administer the MMPI Inventory Test instead of this psych interview nonsense which most police agencies don't do. Sad because many a good potential officer gets eliminated out of the process.

                            Most likely, the LT assigned to the NYPD medical unit will ask the candidate to sign a "letter of declination" which will effectively remove the candidate off the civil service list of eligibles. However; the psych disqualification still stands even if the candidate signs off on it.

                            They do in fact administer the MMPI2, CPI, and that Drawing test (the one where you draw the family and house ((not the family jumping out of a burning house lol)).

                            The problem is, that once the candidate is marked "review" (supervisory review) their is such a backlog that it can take a long time. Theirs also times when a file sits incomplete, lost, etc. It has to go through the ranks, an outside consultation by a NYPD contracted consultant (dr arko) before the head of psych services rubber stamps the DQ.

                            Sometimes it takes a gently / persuasively worded letter to get things moving again.
                            Personally, i was on Investigative review for a long time- it took a phone call by a deputy inspector to get them to make a decision.

                            Their have been cases in which Article 78 was used, and an Injunction was issued against the NYPD to issue a hiring decision. I forget where i read it.
                            Problems with a psych exam?
                            Have an upcoming
                            PSYCHOLOGICAL EXAM that you NEED to PREPARE for?


                            If your Disqualified, Pressured too withdraw, Recieved a Proposed DQ or want to talk about the appeal process- check these guys out. Doesnt hurt too call them- free, detailed telepone consultation before
                            you make up your mind.
                            WWW.LAWENFORCEMENTPEPTALK.COM



                            Attorney Rob Kronenberg WWW.RKRONENBERGLAW.COM

                            Appeal Psychologist: Mark Lerner
                            http://www.crisisdoctors.com/Site/Dr._Mark_Lerner.html

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                            • Originally posted by Vista View Post
                              They do in fact administer the MMPI2, CPI, and that Drawing test (the one where you draw the family and house ((not the family jumping out of a burning house lol)).

                              The problem is, that once the candidate is marked "review" (supervisory review) their is such a backlog that it can take a long time. Theirs also times when a file sits incomplete, lost, etc. It has to go through the ranks, an outside consultation by a NYPD contracted consultant (dr arko) before the head of psych services rubber stamps the DQ.

                              Sometimes it takes a gently / persuasively worded letter to get things moving again.
                              Personally, i was on Investigative review for a long time- it took a phone call by a deputy inspector to get them to make a decision.

                              Their have been cases in which Article 78 was used, and an Injunction was issued against the NYPD to issue a hiring decision. I forget where i read it.
                              Draw a family along with a house?? You got to be kidding!! I took General Psychology and Abnormal Psychology in college. I agree with the MMPI inventory being administered to candidates. No one is pristine perfect but NYPD expects their potential hires to be.

                              Baltimore and Atlanta Police Departments are actively recruiting and their applicant processing time from application to appointment is a few short months compared to an average of three years wait for NYPD.
                              Last edited by CountyCorrectionOfficer; 01-27-2015, 08:12 PM.

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                              • Originally posted by CountyCorrectionOfficer View Post
                                Draw a family along with a house?? You got to be kidding!! I took General Psychology and Abnormal Psychology in college. I agree with the MMPI inventory being administered to candidates. No one is pristine perfect but NYPD expects their potential hires to be.

                                Baltimore and Atlanta Police Departments are actively recruiting and their applicant processing time from application to appointment is a few short months compared to an average of three years wait for NYPD.
                                A lot of candidates these days are tied down to their families, hence why most don't go testing too far out of state. I was contacted by Atlanta a few times (career fair at college/mailing list) it seems like they definitely do hire very frequently.

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