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  • I have a question.... I went thru the whole process and pass all (cleared BI, passed JST and passed drug test). I was on track for an April 2019 hire but got held up on paperwork that the psych wanted. The paperwork was never sent and I miss the April class. Now the July class is in 2 weeks and I got a phone call last Monday from a sergeant and he told me I had to take another drug test because they expire every hire. I did so and I know I’m going to pass. Just now I got another call from the psych department and they wanna do a follow up. Has anyone ever had this experience before, if so what happen?

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    • Vista
      Vista commented
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      Followup means they are on the fence about a decision. You may benefit from talking to Dr. Mark Lerner before you see the second psychologist- perhaps he can help you identify potential trouble areas / issues of concern and help you prevent yourself from being DQ.
      From

    • Wa1rior
      Wa1rior commented
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      I wish, I would have prepare better for the follow up interview. Also check Rob krog Youtube video regarding the Interview it helps.

  • Hey guys, I received my NOPD on June 13th and spoke with Kronenberg who charges A WHOLE LOT, $3500. Is there anyone else that I can retain as an attorney?

    Thanks!
    Last edited by jayd1987; 06-23-2019, 10:03 PM.

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    • rb1152013
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      Leave a message

    • jayd1987
      jayd1987 commented
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      I left a voicemail for RK and he called me back this past Friday. He's very knowledgeable but he insisted on the full payment over the phone and that to me was a turn off. I even asked for half now and half after and he said no.

    • Vista
      Vista commented
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      Yeah sure $3500 is a nice chunk of money- but they put alot of time into these cases. Most lawyers work on a Retainer basis- hourly fee (300-350 an hour). You could easily surpass the $3500.

      Im sure you can find someone cheaper- but keep in mind he wins the most of these cases and its a one shot deal. Theres a reason why appeal psychologists are seeking him out to do these cases (but he primarily works
      With lerner). .
      Last edited by Vista; 06-24-2019, 08:04 PM.

    • Vista
      Vista commented
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      @nyubluuline send me a email [email protected] ill get in touch with Rob

  • Vista seems like you have hired Mr. kronenberg and keep in contact with him which is good. I personally im having a different experience with him, after hiring him and finishing my sessions with Dr. Lerner I have not been able to have any communications with him of any kind not an email response and wont return any calls. I find it a bit weird that he is being so unprofessional with his reputation. I don't even know if my report was sent in or not.

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    • Vista
      Vista commented
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      When did you last see Dr. Lerner? Send me an email and ill get back to you (probably next week).

      He can be tough to get in touch with- he works alone and he’s swamped- but in my experience he has always been on top of deadlines- even know at times he has been tough to get in touch with.

  • Hello,
    This post is not regarding psych dq but few question on background dq. Any infos are helpful. I have received background nopd back in April and my appeal has been submitted to nypd but they declined it and send to civil service commission. Does anyone of you guys been through this whole process and has decision reversed? Anything helps, thank you.

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    • Originally posted by Ag1986 View Post
      Vista seems like you have hired Mr. kronenberg and keep in contact with him which is good. I personally im having a different experience with him, after hiring him and finishing my sessions with Dr. Lerner I have not been able to have any communications with him of any kind not an email response and wont return any calls. I find it a bit weird that he is being so unprofessional with his reputation. I don't even know if my report was sent in or not.
      honestly what happen with Dr Lerner, has affects all of us. He is human and is sad what happen to him. Mr Krognenber call me 3 weeks after and explain what happen. He decide to move over 120 people cases to his other 3 expert including myself. I spoke with the new expert and he is currently waiting for my files from the NYPD which take around 30 to 60 days. We knew getting into this that, it a very very slow process. I understand the frustrating and dissapoment of no been in the Academy rigth now. All we can do is wait and be patient.

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      • So if someone recieves an NOPD from nypd, does that automatically DQ them from NYCDOC? A candidate shouldn't even bother processing with DOC at that point?

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        • rb1152013
          rb1152013 commented
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          Not true at all. Take the exam. The reasoning behind your DQ could be relevant though (you got caught lying, you have 6 DUI’s, etc)

        • MrBigHead
          MrBigHead commented
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          Yes you should bother applying to DOC if that’s what you want to do. I had to psych DQ’s from PD and was later hired by DOC. The hiring process are very similar but what each agency deems desirable/undesirable in their candidates may differ. Due to the NOPD you’re probably at a disadvantage compared to a candidate without it

      • Originally posted by Tactical1 View Post
        So if someone recieves an NOPD from nypd, does that automatically DQ them from NYCDOC? A candidate shouldn't even bother processing with DOC at that point?
        They are 2 completely different hiring process. Doc has it on standard. So don't worry.

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          • Hey guys, I need some help here and have questions

            I took exam 4324, went through the process, until I got to my psych interview. I got the notice of proposal of disqualification, probably due to some social anxiety meds I took (at the time) 2 years ago. I signed the paper to remove my name from the exam list and never looked back. That was like 2 years ago.

            I figured I give it another shot and called dcas to put my name back, however they said I need to take a whole new exam. I heard the exams now arent open all the time, so I figure it would take less time to wait.

            1) if I take the new exam, will I have to wait 3-4 years again to be called to start the process? or did they speed things up now? How long do I have to wait now if I take the new exam this coming month? Because I am thinking of pursuing a career as a commercial pilot now, so I am worried I will be too much into my career by the time they call.

            2) since my social anxiety meds were last taken 4 years ago, do you think I still have a chance? I never been prescribed or touched social anxeity meds anymore. I own a delicatessen in nyc, and honestly dont think I have social anxiety, I guess it was just a phase in life. Even my doctor said all teenagers have some sort of anxiety. I meet up to 100 different customers per day in my deli,

            3) since I signed that paper, does it mean I was officially disqualified, or I just voluntarily withdrew? would it make a difference either way?

            4) if I go thorugh the process again, how do you think I should answer the psyh question regarding the medicine history? I heard 4 years is the limit for any prescriptions, is this correct?

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            • Need some assistance just received the NOPD email. What are my next steps or rather recommended steps. There’s no way I want to withdraw or either take the disqualification and move on. I know it’s already been mentioned on previous post but based off the email I received I seems like I have only 30 days before the decision is final. I definitely want to get this reversed as I feel like I shouldn’t have been DQ’ed (as most people feel).

              Also so I took the Suffolk County PD exam not to long ago and was wondering if this NOPD will have any effect on that exam. I’ve heard something about it but not too entirely sure.

              Again if anyone has some help I’d greatly appreciate it.

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              • nybluuline
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                You need to hire your own psych and lawyer to fight your case. Move fast Bc as you said you only have 30 days

              • Vista
                Vista commented
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                Suffolk won't touch you with a NYPD Psych DQ. You should appeal. I recommend Rob Kronenberg and Mark Lerner. PM ME if you need there contact info or lookin in my signature,

            • Hello Everyone,
              My List # is 5XXX, I wanted to ask a question and see if anyone maybe new the direction of where this could go.

              I had my primary oral psych interview Sept 2018; I was told by the psychologist that she needed documents. Which I went to the locations to make sure they faxed over what was needed. When I checked with APD for OCT 2018 academy I was told I was on psych review.

              I went for my second interview Jan 2019, a few days later the psychologist asked for documents which I went to the location for the documents to be faxed over. A month later the psychologist emails me stating she never received them. I went back to the location and made sure they gave me a fax sent receipt.


              I checked with APD April 2019 and they said I was still on PSYCH REVIEW. During this process my JST and Mini Medical have been expiring but they always continue to schedule me to have them up to date for the following academy. I did the JST in April 2019 for the third time ( I’ve passed all 3 times ) and I have my mini medical appointment sched for Aug 2019 for the fifth time ( I’ve passed all 4 times).

              I email my investigator to see how my case is going but he never responds back. The last time I had communication with him was regarding getting re-fingerprinted and the money order in Feb 2019. I have not reached out to the psychologist since that last email regarding the paper work being sent over in March 2019. I have officially been on psych review since Sept 2018. Is there a possibility that I may still be able to be cleared or is this possibly being prolonged to a DQ ? Any information will be helpful, Thank you

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              • rb1152013
                rb1152013 commented
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                If they’re still inviting you back to redo your JST and mini medical then that’s a good sign. Once they stop bringing you back in to retake those things when necessary , that’s when things will likely turn into a notice of proposed disqualification

              • Vista
                Vista commented
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                Its possible but I had many mini-meds while on review. Contact candidate relations

            • Quick question for a friend

              Is a 2nd Psych interview a good or bad sign?

              Positive - not a DQ..................but clearly concerned!

              Candidate has been through all the rest of the process and has just been notified ?
              Last edited by Zorro; 07-16-2019, 12:07 PM.

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              • rb1152013
                rb1152013 commented
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                It’s not bad. Sure it’s ideal to have only one psych and pass it. If the second psych goes well (in their eyes) then your friend should be fine

            • Anyone that recently appealed - how long from the time your psych mailed in your appeal did it take to hear back from the nypd?

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              • rb1152013
                rb1152013 commented
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                Of course that’s fine. I contacted my appeal psychologist and asked for a copy of his appeal notes for my own records. It’s not necessary at all.

              • Vista
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                Takes a few months, easy. Welcome to civil service- where the wheels turn very slowly.

              • pa/ny321
                pa/ny321 commented
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                Do they have to hear your appeal or can they just disregard it?

              • Vista
                Vista commented
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                Does who have to “hear it”?

                Civil service can decide based on paper submissions or schedule for an evidentiary hearing.

            • Hey everyone I got nopd and than a disqualification so the next step is the civil service what are the chances I just feel like I wasted money on nothing . Has anyone ever dealt with this

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              • Vista
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                Who did you use for your appeal?

              • rb1152013
                rb1152013 commented
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                Did the NYPD give you a second interview before the official disqualification?

            • Mr Levine first name gerold

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              • NYC_C
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                Vista Im gonna respectfully disagree brother, they go according to the case. If that was the situation we shouldn't even appeal or bring business to Mr.kronenberg. I feel like some people have weak cases compared to others (strong case) in which the NYPD sees and give them the 2nd interview.
                Last edited by NYC_C; 07-30-2019, 11:31 PM.

              • Vista
                Vista commented
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                NYC_C Your missing what i said. Most often NYPD affirms there initial decision (they did not with me). Then it gets forwarded to civil service commission who has the final say. Kronenberg tells you- your probably going to get a letter saying the NYPD Affirms there decision- but, “Who gives a ****”- thats expected. Its not NYPD that you are relying upon, its civil service commission.

              • NYC_C
                NYC_C commented
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                Vista brother you said "rarely" which goes to most people. I believe it goes case by case basis.

                You really think Mr.Kronenberg would tell his clients "your probably going to get a letter" ?

              • Vista
                Vista commented
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                NYC_C Yeah, Kronenberg explicitly states that you will likely get a letter saying NYPD Affirms there decision- as most often they do. He also tells you that when you get it, you will end up calling all upset and he tells you the same thing. Thats the “who gives a **** letter”- as you never expected NYPD to side with you and that you should count on Civil Service as they have the final say, and not NYPD.

                Kronenberg doesn’t mince words or bull****. He tells how it is.

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