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  • Originally posted by Wa1rior View Post
    Hello Vista i just got my NOPD letter i would like to fight it can you pm what should i do next. I save up some money in case this may happen
    Ok thanks

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    • Hey guys, i need some opinions. I was recently placed on supervisory review after my initial psychologist deemed me "not qualified" for the position. The thing is, I literally completed the entire process, filed out never ending pieces of paperwork and repeated both the JST and the Mini-Medical twice. Also, my investigator put me on hold for a few months so i could graduate college with my Asscoiates.

      Oral psych was the last step i had to do, just days away from the October academy. My psych doctor was new and was making mistakes though out the interview. I dont think this is really fair at all, considering all the work they had me do just to knock me out at the last possible second by a brand new inexperienced psych doctor.

      Has this happened to anyone else? I think APD should really re-evaluate how they process their candidates, its not right to have them jump through fire only to DQ at the last moment. Should I appeal this decision? I feel i have a decent case. My background is clean with no arrests, an A student in college. The only blemish is some unemployment periods here and there and 3 low level tickets which were dismissed.

      thoughts?
      Last edited by Tactical1; 02-20-2019, 04:24 PM.

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      • rb1152013
        rb1152013 commented
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        Problem is it's not a different case. Somewhat typical, unfortunately. People get on with a lot worse. In this case it's not your background that's the issue. It's you. Not literally you. Your psychologist simply didn't think your personality would be the right fit for the job based off of a short interview. If that's all it is, yes it worth appealing it.

        Many times when someone gets DQ'd, it's for a legitimate reason. Then there's guys like you and me. We have to fight for it. If you lose you'll still be happy you appealed it because you get to keep the psych appeal notes your appeal psychologist sends to NYPD. Assuming you are sane, this can work in your favor for future oral psychs you may have with different departments (PAPD, FDNY, NCPD, etc).

        If you have the money, go for it.

      • Mario180
        Mario180 commented
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        Rb are you in the process of appealing? How long does it take

      • rb1152013
        rb1152013 commented
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        Yes. Mario180, 6 months to a year. Depends on how backed up they are on people appealing, and on what kind of case they're dealing with for yourself.

      • Vista
        Vista commented
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        Those “mistakes” are what your banking on when you appeal. That’s what gives you a stronger case. Appeal it when the time comes.

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      Last edited by ViceCity86; 02-21-2019, 09:30 AM.

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      • Vice......You are not on the job and have not faced any of the problems NYPD officers face. At 21 you do not know what the NYPD is looking for in an applicant.If your attitude came across in your interview it could be the reason for your disqualification.

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        • Just got my NOPD for nypd police communications technician. I was wondering if I should appeal it now or just go through the process for p.o and appeal it then ( I already know my prior dq will result in another one). I’m only asking because I just had knee surgery and I’m only getting half of my pay. My savings are already tied up in tuition so I’m not sure if I should attempt to pay for a lawyer and psychologist at the moment.
          Last edited by Kayla_belle; 02-23-2019, 05:07 PM.

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          • Vista
            Vista commented
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            I would appeal- it will be a much easier appeal to win. PO position involves carrying a firearm. Much higher burden

        • Originally posted by Kayla_belle View Post
          Just got my NOPD for nypd police communications technician. I was wondering if I should appeal it now or just go through the process for p.o and appeal it then ( I already know my prior dq will result in another one). I’m only asking because I just had knee surgery and I’m only getting half of my pay. My savings are already tied up in tuition so I’m not sure if I should attempt to pay for a lawyer and psychologist at the moment.
          Wow i am sorry that you are in this position. Honestly if this is something you really want to do and you see your self doing this for the next 25 years i would said do it. But you have 30 days take sometime and shop around.

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          • Anyone have dr. Jeremy Thies????

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            • Vista
              Vista commented
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              Not sure it matters- everyone’s interview and circumstances are different.

          • Hey Everyone. I have a question out of curiosity, I was just placed on supervisory review. Is each psychologist assigned a supervisor whom the file then goes to, or is your file sent to any supervisor within the psych dept? I’m kinda confused on how this works. Thanks

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            • Vista
              Vista commented
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              How it works....... you just wait and see what road it takes. Can take months.

          • Hello,
            I have received an email of NOPD, proposed DQ for me not being suited to the unique demands and stresses of employment as a Police Officer pursuant to Civil Service Law 504a and/or 506. I was wondering a couple of things.

            1. Should I seek an attorney? Is that entirely needed, I can assume they have civil service attorneys but from what I can gather a lot of people get this, so maybe it doesn’t require that level of guidance?

            2. Do I need to write a hand written letter explaining that I wish the help of a psychologist or do I just hand in the “authorization of release of my psychological information” form and that is the will of my intent? Because it says key words “and/or” a hand written letter explaining why I should be accepted “and/or” a review of my records by a psychologist.

            3. The PO at my pre-medical told my group not to challenge a DQ, because it would look bad on your resume of sorts and that it would be better to accept it and try repeating the process, is this factual or is it half truths?

            I currently reside in Suffolk County, so seaking aid from attorneys that specialize in this seem to be centered pretty far from me. I have tried to contact various psychiatrists and none seem to be able to perform the tasks required. Any advice is helpful.

            Thanks.
            Last edited by NinjaTurtle; 03-05-2019, 03:56 PM.

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            • rb1152013
              rb1152013 commented
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              Plenty of reading available on this thread that’ll likely answer all your questions . Except maybe your third question. Me personally I’d say that PO doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Nothing wrong with appealing, especially if it’s winnable.

          • Hey, I took the psychological around March or April of 2018 for SSA I've been under review for almost a year after the end of this month. I called CAD and they told me the psych has made a decision and it has been passed on to the supervisor. What does that mean?

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            • rb1152013
              rb1152013 commented
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              It means that you’re likely getting a notice of proposed disqualification. I didn’t get mine till after being on psych review for about 13 months

            • Federalemp
              Federalemp commented
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              You sure? Because my investigator told me she did not see anything bad on the review. So I’m confused.

          • Originally posted by NinjaTurtle View Post
            Hello,
            I have received an email of NOPD, proposed DQ for me not being suited to the unique demands and stresses of employment as a Police Officer pursuant to Civil Service Law 504a and/or 506. I was wondering a couple of things.

            1. Should I seek an attorney? Is that entirely needed, I can assume they have civil service attorneys but from what I can gather a lot of people get this, so maybe it doesn’t require that level of guidance?

            2. Do I need to write a hand written letter explaining that I wish the help of a psychologist or do I just hand in the “authorization of release of my psychological information” form and that is the will of my intent? Because it says key words “and/or” a hand written letter explaining why I should be accepted “and/or” a review of my records by a psychologist.

            3. The PO at my pre-medical told my group not to challenge a DQ, because it would look bad on your resume of sorts and that it would be better to accept it and try repeating the process, is this factual or is it half truths?

            I currently reside in Suffolk County, so seaking aid from attorneys that specialize in this seem to be centered pretty far from me. I have tried to contact various psychiatrists and none seem to be able to perform the tasks required. Any advice is helpful.

            Thanks.
            If you really want to take this seriously you will hire a attorney. If you have to go to Civil service, you want someone that knows what going on. Like you said it not required but it extremely recommend. And your 3rd question that sounds ridiculous, everyone has to me to fight it because it worth it.

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            • Vista
              Vista commented
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              You never have to physically meet the attorney. Kronenberg is in happauge. If you apply to SCPD they will hammer you over the NYPD DQ or Withdrawal. Don’t ever withdraw- appeal.

            • MrBigHead
              MrBigHead commented
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              I don't know the context behind the officer saying that but people have successfully appeal DQ's. As Vista mentioned, you don't have to physically meet the attorney. If you're thinking about appeal then you owe it to yourself to at least consult a lawyer who specializes in these matters and see what they say

            • NinjaTurtle
              NinjaTurtle commented
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              Thanks for your help, I ended up going to Kevin P. Sheerin in mineola, he gave me a straight honest answer and said they wouldn't take me because I had a learning disability when I was 4. Nothing I could do or say would get me passed that, he could argue all he wanted in regards to my psychological and my background history. But he said they are pretty picky on who they take these days and that my appeal wouldn't get me very far.

              So I elected not to continue with this nightmares any more and pursue other interests, maybe continue my ems career.


              Best of luck to everyone.

          • I am thinking about appealing and hiring a lawyer. Out of curiosity how long did the process take if you win and get cleared?

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            • I won my appeal recently and it took about 7 months since i got the nopd letter.

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              • Asv0108
                Asv0108 commented
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                Awesome..
                Can you please provide the lawyer you used for this?
                Thanks in advance.

              • Mario180
                Mario180 commented
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                So are you clear for hire now? I read somewhere they still don't have to hire you.

              • rb1152013
                rb1152013 commented
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                Mario180 does that make sense to you?

              • xknuckles
                xknuckles commented
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                Mario, CSC overrides the NYPD's decision.

            • Hey guys, I had psych interview last November and Dr placed me in discontinued and asked additional documents few time ever since then. I received an email on the first week of last month stating that there are no additional documents needed and it will be placed in back on review. So here are the questions first how long it will take for me to be cleared and is 2nd mini-med email a positive sign even though I am placed in review?

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              • rb1152013
                rb1152013 commented
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                The time It takes is unknown because it’s duration is unique to every candidate. And yes, if you’re still being invited back to take the mini-med/JST It is a good sign. It’s only a bad sign when you stop being reinvited back to take these things should you need to.

              • randomF15
                randomF15 commented
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                Thanks, hoping to get them cleared

            • Asv0108
              hey i used Kronenberg and dr lerner

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              • Asv0108
                Asv0108 commented
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                Hi Freddy,
                Can you please tell me an avg on how much it cost $$?

              • xknuckles
                xknuckles commented
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                Freddy what was the NOPD for? I'm currenty DQ for background, hired Kevin Sheerin

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