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  • Mayhem.....The problem is not experienced posters, whether you like their posts or not. Most of them are on point. The problem has been, and is now, wannabes giving "advice/information" that is inaccurate and leads other hopefuls in an incorrect direction. Your rantings about experienced officers does not add to the conversation.

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    • Originally posted by Dinosaur32 View Post
      Mayhem.....The problem is not experienced posters, whether you like their posts or not. Most of them are on point. The problem has been, and is now, wannabes giving "advice/information" that is inaccurate and leads other hopefuls in an incorrect direction. Your rantings about experienced officers does not add to the conversation.
      Maybe you should go back and read what I said. My ranting isn’t about useful advice, it’s about people who make useless comments in an attempt to poke fun or make people feel like crap. Not really rocket science but I’m sure you wouldn’t appreciate someone talking down on you if you were asking for help. Common courtesy. Especially when “experienced officers” should be helping potential candidates, not discouraging them and making them feel like crap. I said my peace. Just realized there’s a block feature so I might as well utilize it so I don’t have to see anymore useless comments when reading these forums for good, useful info.
      Last edited by mayhemcyclesinc; 06-04-2018, 11:14 PM.
      NYPD 2311, #4XX

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    • " Not really rocket science but I’m sure you wouldn’t appreciate someone talking down on you if you were asking for help."

      You won't last one day. You have to learn yourself, and that is the problem. Stop blaming people for calling out why you got DQ'd, and start taking responsibility for your own actions. What you say to the psych and what you have done in your life that has been red flagged are both ON YOU. This forum isn't here to help you or any "potential candidate" cheat your way through the process so in the end you can have an event that makes us or the job look bad. You have anger issues -- right off the bat which is an automatic DQ since you can't even handle criticism.

      I have previously been criticized before I got into law enforcement by both Dinosaur32 and CCSD --- and they were right. They're now people who I respect on these forums who give valid advice without the b/s aside.

      They tell the truth.

      If you need help with the DQ process contact the only person here who has the most knowledge on the subject -- Vista

      If not, take your criticism and move forward. Stop being offended by it.

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      • Originally posted by TheGreatBambino View Post
        " Not really rocket science but I’m sure you wouldn’t appreciate someone talking down on you if you were asking for help."

        You won't last one day. You have to learn yourself, and that is the problem. Stop blaming people for calling out why you got DQ'd, and start taking responsibility for your own actions. What you say to the psych and what you have done in your life that has been red flagged are both ON YOU. This forum isn't here to help you or any "potential candidate" cheat your way through the process so in the end you can have an event that makes us or the job look bad. You have anger issues -- right off the bat which is an automatic DQ since you can't even handle criticism.

        I have previously been criticized before I got into law enforcement by both Dinosaur32 and CCSD --- and they were right. They're now people who I respect on these forums who give valid advice without the b/s aside.

        They tell the truth.

        If you need help with the DQ process contact the only person here who has the most knowledge on the subject -- Vista

        If not, take your criticism and move forward. Stop being offended by it.
        magic 8 ball. I'm telling you....it would get rid of all these issues. Probably more accurate than some goofy psych. Applicant has to shake it though so they can't blame anybody.
        Last edited by TUNEDNIMPORTED; 06-05-2018, 12:59 AM.

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        • Originally posted by TheGreatBambino View Post
          " Not really rocket science but I’m sure you wouldn’t appreciate someone talking down on you if you were asking for help."

          You won't last one day. You have to learn yourself, and that is the problem. Stop blaming people for calling out why you got DQ'd, and start taking responsibility for your own actions. What you say to the psych and what you have done in your life that has been red flagged are both ON YOU. This forum isn't here to help you or any "potential candidate" cheat your way through the process so in the end you can have an event that makes us or the job look bad. You have anger issues -- right off the bat which is an automatic DQ since you can't even handle criticism.

          I have previously been criticized before I got into law enforcement by both Dinosaur32 and CCSD --- and they were right. They're now people who I respect on these forums who give valid advice without the b/s aside.

          They tell the truth.

          If you need help with the DQ process contact the only person here who has the most knowledge on the subject -- Vista

          If not, take your criticism and move forward. Stop being offended by it.
          This is an online forum, not a psych interview. I’m not blaming anyone for anything so again, I’d advise you to comprehend and read what I’ve posted. I never played the victim card and I never asked for an easy out. I called out someone who was being a jerkoff to other forum members for no reason other than to feel bigger than he is. If CCCSD wants to be like that, he’s more than welcome to become an academy instructor. But I guess ignorance is bliss and you’ll never see it from any other point of view except your own. Not saying they weren’t telling the truth so again, don’t misunderstand my words. But being a dick and being respectful are two very different things; and usually being respectful gets you further than being a complete hairbag.

          In the end, it’s you guys who can’t seem to take the criticism.

          I’m done explaining myself. There’s nothing more petty than someone online ragging on someone who makes a grammatical error or kicks someone who’s down for asking a question on how to go about a certain situation (and that’s not asking for a handout or as you said, cheat the system). I saw how he was talking to other members and I felt he was being out of line. Plain and simple. Take the criticism and move on. If you don’t like it, that’s on you. Good luck.
          NYPD 2311, #4XX

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          • Originally posted by mayhemcyclesinc View Post

            This is an online forum, not a psych interview. I’m not blaming anyone for anything so again, I’d advise you to comprehend and read what I’ve posted. I never played the victim card and I never asked for an easy out. I called out someone who was being a jerkoff to other forum members for no reason other than to feel bigger than he is. If CCCSD wants to be like that, he’s more than welcome to become an academy instructor. But I guess ignorance is bliss and you’ll never see it from any other point of view except your own. Not saying they weren’t telling the truth so again, don’t misunderstand my words. But being a dick and being respectful are two very different things; and usually being respectful gets you further than being a complete hairbag.

            In the end, it’s you guys who can’t seem to take the criticism.

            I’m done explaining myself. There’s nothing more petty than someone online ragging on someone who makes a grammatical error or kicks someone who’s down for asking a question on how to go about a certain situation (and that’s not asking for a handout or as you said, cheat the system). I saw how he was talking to other members and I felt he was being out of line. Plain and simple. Take the criticism and move on. If you don’t like it, that’s on you. Good luck.

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            • Originally posted by mayhemcyclesinc View Post

              This is an online forum, not a psych interview. I’m not blaming anyone for anything so again, I’d advise you to comprehend and read what I’ve posted. I never played the victim card and I never asked for an easy out. I called out someone who was being a jerkoff to other forum members for no reason other than to feel bigger than he is. If CCCSD wants to be like that, he’s more than welcome to become an academy instructor. But I guess ignorance is bliss and you’ll never see it from any other point of view except your own. Not saying they weren’t telling the truth so again, don’t misunderstand my words. But being a dick and being respectful are two very different things; and usually being respectful gets you further than being a complete hairbag.

              In the end, it’s you guys who can’t seem to take the criticism.

              I’m done explaining myself. There’s nothing more petty than someone online ragging on someone who makes a grammatical error or kicks someone who’s down for asking a question on how to go about a certain situation (and that’s not asking for a handout or as you said, cheat the system). I saw how he was talking to other members and I felt he was being out of line. Plain and simple. Take the criticism and move on. If you don’t like it, that’s on you. Good luck.
              Am I missing something? You literally just said the same thing to me as I told you about criticism. I have a job, I don’t have to go through the process like you. I didn’t get DQ’d like you. You’re over here sending private messages to me talking about how I’m threatening you and babe Ruth isn’t that great? It’s referenced to the Sandlot — junior.

              You’re all over the place with your statement. I’m glad the machine worked and you will never be a cop.

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              • Vista
                Vista commented
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                Alotta these guys are pre-sandlot day’s.

              • TheGreatBambino
                TheGreatBambino commented
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                lol I am not that old !

            • Originally posted by TheGreatBambino View Post

              Am I missing something? You literally just said the same thing to me as I told you about criticism. I have a job, I don’t have to go through the process like you. I didn’t get DQ’d like you. You’re over here sending private messages to me talking about how I’m threatening you and babe Ruth isn’t that great? It’s referenced to the Sandlot — junior.

              You’re all over the place with your statement. I’m glad the machine worked and you will never be a cop.
              I’ve been clear as day with what I’ve been saying, but apparently you can’t comprehend any of it. Not a problem. Good for you having the job, I’m very happy for you and I wish you nothing but success and the best. I’m sure you’re a real hit with your coworkers and they’re very lucky to have someone like you on their side. As for the private message, I only sent you one so you shouldn’t make it seem like I sent a few. Whatever.

              People like yourself are truly a valuable asset to those looking to get hired; especially with your help and useful information. You make those of us candidates really want to work with people like yourself, and are grateful to have such helpful direction and guidance throughout the whole hiring process. While it may seem like some of us want our hand held, we actually would prefer the advice and knowledge of those who went through it, without being made to feel like useless *******s or pieces of crap, especially when this isn’t an academy and just an online forum. Enjoy your day and thank you.
              NYPD 2311, #4XX

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              • I wish there was a Moderator in this forum.
                Problems with a psych exam?
                Have an upcoming
                PSYCHOLOGICAL EXAM that you NEED to PREPARE for?


                If your Disqualified, Pressured too withdraw, Recieved a Proposed DQ or want to talk about the appeal process- check these guys out. Doesnt hurt too call them- free, detailed telepone consultation before
                you make up your mind.
                WWW.LAWENFORCEMENTPEPTALK.COM



                Attorney Rob Kronenberg WWW.RKRONENBERGLAW.COM

                Appeal Psychologist: Mark Lerner
                http://www.crisisdoctors.com/Site/Dr._Mark_Lerner.html

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                • This kind of reminds me of when the PA dq'd a bunch of people who were already otj. Simply put..these jobs are hard as frick to get. So much so that even having prior le exp means nothing. People need to stop talking about these ASSESSMENTS like its the end of the world.You really want to chage the process? Be a good candidate and get picked up by another agency. Stay out of trouble for 30 years and you basically proved that they dont know dip.

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                  • Vista
                    Vista commented
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                    The Port is a Whole Different Animal. Nepotism at its finest. And one of the most in depth aggressive screening processes.

                    There are Agencies who will not touch a candidate with a Psych DQ (suffolk). Others will chide you heavily. Some don’t care.
                    Last edited by Vista; 06-05-2018, 10:55 AM.

                • Originally posted by TUNEDNIMPORTED View Post
                  This kind of reminds me of when the PA dq'd a bunch of people who were already otj. Simply put..these jobs are hard as frick to get. So much so that even having prior le exp means nothing. People need to stop talking about these ASSESSMENTS like its the end of the world.You really want to chage the process? Be a good candidate and get picked up by another agency. Stay out of trouble for 30 years and you basically proved that they dont know dip.
                  Agree with this , at the end of the day the NYPD , is one of the best law enforcement agencies in the world but it is not the only law enforcement agency . If your true mission is to be a law enforcement officer then you have to chase it wherever opportunities arrise .

                  As as far as the psych process goes , I can’t agree with people who state that it is reliable , not going to single out the NYPD so I’ll say if you look at agencies around the country , you can easily find countless incidents of officers being fired , forced to resign , suspended , or otherwise disciplined in one way or another . The process is what it is , it hopefully can work to keep standout cases from coming into a position of extraordinary responsibility . With that said , does it stop people who shouldn’t be cops from becoming cops ? Yes it does , does it let people who shouldn’t be cops through ? Yes it does . Does it DQ people who would make great officers ? It most certainly does .

                  To conclude ,
                  when I see people in this forum ask for help , or have comments questions or concerns in regards to the process , I have no problem with the experieced guys on the forum being blunt with them. It would only help the candidates , on the same token , there are comments that are not necessary , have nothing to do with the process , and are just putting people down .

                  At the end of the day the way I veiw it is this , we all understand that becoming an officer has inherent risks , it risks your life , your family , your relationships and so much more , and knowing this ( hopefully all are aware ) people still sign up . That commends some form appreciation , it’s not a job that everyone would do ,
                  I have LE family who Responded on 9/11
                  And it’s burned into my mind how as the towers fell , I watched them hurry up to leave the house and head to the scene as opposed to run away .

                  I cannot , from a forum , put anyone down who seeks help in being apart of this career and this lifestyle .

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                  • Originally posted by Vista View Post
                    I wish there was a Moderator in this forum.
                    There is.
                    Now go home and get your shine box!

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                    • Edited.... repost later
                      Last edited by Vista; 06-06-2018, 10:05 PM.
                      Problems with a psych exam?
                      Have an upcoming
                      PSYCHOLOGICAL EXAM that you NEED to PREPARE for?


                      If your Disqualified, Pressured too withdraw, Recieved a Proposed DQ or want to talk about the appeal process- check these guys out. Doesnt hurt too call them- free, detailed telepone consultation before
                      you make up your mind.
                      WWW.LAWENFORCEMENTPEPTALK.COM



                      Attorney Rob Kronenberg WWW.RKRONENBERGLAW.COM

                      Appeal Psychologist: Mark Lerner
                      http://www.crisisdoctors.com/Site/Dr._Mark_Lerner.html

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                      • Anybody here from cadets ?

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                        • Getting the mini medical email while still being on psych review doesn’t necesarily mean anything right ? But from my understanding they won’t tell you about mini med unless you’re on good review ?

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                          • Vista
                            Vista commented
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                            Means nothing but do it anyway

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