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  • Originally posted by hwguy1314 View Post
    If I'm disqualified from the nypd psych dq...

    Does that mean I'm also disqualified every else? ​​​I'm disqualified for the nypd and I have an appointment to take the new york state police exam next month. Is it worth even going through the process of new york state police, or will I just be disqualified again?
    When you receive a full disqualification from the NYPD, any agency will see that DQ. You are better off hiring a lawyer and fighting against their decision.

    ​​​​​​You are not automatically DQed from NYSP if you are DQed from NYPD. You are brownlisted (meaning if you score high enough on their standards to be selected and there's only room for one more yet there's two of you with same exact score, guess who gets selected?)

    Instead if you win your case against the NYPD (which is of course selective and not competitive), the NYSP will just see that you applied to the NYPD and you turned their acceptance offer down and you can just say "Yea i hate the city" and they'll reply: "Yea we do too."
    Last edited by LukeSW; 09-13-2017, 02:20 PM.

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    • Originally posted by Luvruche View Post
      Hi, new to the forum. If anybody can recommend a lawyer to help me navigate the DQ process, any personal accounts would be great.
      I wish a had the patients to look through the 228 pages of this discussion.
      Thank you
      Google "NYPD Notice of Proposed Disqualification lawyer"

      Whoever is closest to you is more than likely the best choice for you as you will have to go their office multiple times (I believe, I could be wrong)

      You can also look at their reviews on Yelp! or lawyer review sites.

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      • "I received all of the requested records, and a preliminary decision was made which must be reviewed by our department. Please remain patient as there is a high volume of candidates, you will receive further instruction in the future." - Email received from Psych doctor a few weeks ago. Is this encouraging or no? I have been in the process for a while and everything is completed. Thanks


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        • Been on review since May and haven't heard from my psych, they didn't request anything. Wish they would give me an answer already if I was in or being DQd. Feeling pretty defeated at the moment.

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          • Originally posted by aemangrom View Post
            Been on review since May and haven't heard from my psych, they didn't request anything. Wish they would give me an answer already if I was in or being DQd. Feeling pretty defeated at the moment.
            There's candidates still on review since the 4300 series (and probable 3000 series) who have precendent over later exams.

            Why did 5300 series get their mini-medicals for Oct. Class 2017 before 4300 series? Because they had "less complicated" psychological profiles (Reality translation: Those particular candidates fit perfectly within the NYPD's current hiring quotas).

            Your list number (not your exam #, don't confuse the two) expires 4 years from the year it was established.

            Only the 7300 and beyond will see a streamlined, well-oiled process once they begin.
            Last edited by LukeSW; 09-13-2017, 06:21 PM.

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            • Some advice to candidates about to take psych. Get all the documents you think the psych might ask for and hand in on the spot. It keeps you off review and allows a decision to be made right away most of the time. (Not always)

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              • Let's say I'm dq'd because say... I took adhd prescription 3 times in the past 3 years ago (which may or may not be true) and I'm dq'd because of it.

                However this is not my current state at all and I've "grown" out of prescriptions like many here do.

                Can I go about ​​​​it without a lawyer... Maybe talking/meeting with a psychologist through my health insurance and if he agrees I do not have this current state anymore and writes me a letter stating so... I can show it to the psych department to reverse thier decision?

                I do not have the money to ​​​​​​do all this lawyer stuff for thousands of dollars.. Which may just go down the drain in the end.

                So my question is... In a situation like mine... Can I get a letter from a psychologist if I do not have this condition anymore and the psycholgist agrees

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                • Originally posted by nyc96 View Post
                  Some advice to candidates about to take psych. Get all the documents you think the psych might ask for and hand in on the spot. It keeps you off review and allows a decision to be made right away most of the time. (Not always)
                  good advice if they'll accept it. some documents they want sent directly from the agency/department that has them. psych wanted records from my job. they wouldn't release the records to me to give to the psych and the psych didn't know how to request the documents.

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                  • Originally posted by hwguy1314 View Post
                    Let's say I'm dq'd because say... I took adhd prescription 3 times in the past 3 years ago (which may or may not be true) and I'm dq'd because of it.

                    However this is not my current state at all and I've "grown" out of prescriptions like many here do.

                    Can I go about ​​​​it without a lawyer... Maybe talking/meeting with a psychologist through my health insurance and if he agrees I do not have this current state anymore and writes me a letter stating so... I can show it to the psych department to reverse thier decision?

                    I do not have the money to ​​​​​​do all this lawyer stuff for thousands of dollars.. Which may just go down the drain in the end.

                    So my question is... In a situation like mine... Can I get a letter from a psychologist if I do not have this condition anymore and the psycholgist agrees

                    It would a poor idea to try without a lawyer- especially because adhd is a legally protected disability.
                    Problems with a psych exam?
                    Have an upcoming
                    PSYCHOLOGICAL EXAM that you NEED to PREPARE for?


                    If your Disqualified, Pressured too withdraw, Recieved a Proposed DQ or want to talk about the appeal process- check these guys out. Doesnt hurt too call them- free, detailed telepone consultation before
                    you make up your mind.
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                    Attorney Rob Kronenberg WWW.RKRONENBERGLAW.COM

                    Appeal Psychologist: Mark Lerner
                    http://www.crisisdoctors.com/Site/Dr._Mark_Lerner.html

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                    • Trying to appeal a Psych DQ without a Forensic Psychologist who is experienced in NYPD Policy and Procedure, and without an Attorney is a bad idea. Any psychologist can write a basic letter, but what you will need is a very detailed report complete with a review of all department documentation written by a Forensic Psychologist. This is what goes a long way in front of Civil Service Commision. As far as the attorney question, NYPD will always be represented by an attorney. You, nor your appeal psychologist are in no position to lodge arguments that involve complex areas of law. On civil service commisions own website they reccomend retention of an attorney for that very reason.
                      Problems with a psych exam?
                      Have an upcoming
                      PSYCHOLOGICAL EXAM that you NEED to PREPARE for?


                      If your Disqualified, Pressured too withdraw, Recieved a Proposed DQ or want to talk about the appeal process- check these guys out. Doesnt hurt too call them- free, detailed telepone consultation before
                      you make up your mind.
                      WWW.LAWENFORCEMENTPEPTALK.COM



                      Attorney Rob Kronenberg WWW.RKRONENBERGLAW.COM

                      Appeal Psychologist: Mark Lerner
                      http://www.crisisdoctors.com/Site/Dr._Mark_Lerner.html

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                      • If anyone has a upcoming psych These guys are awesome, check them out- WWW.LawEnforcementPeptalk.com

                        Problems with a psych exam?
                        Have an upcoming
                        PSYCHOLOGICAL EXAM that you NEED to PREPARE for?


                        If your Disqualified, Pressured too withdraw, Recieved a Proposed DQ or want to talk about the appeal process- check these guys out. Doesnt hurt too call them- free, detailed telepone consultation before
                        you make up your mind.
                        WWW.LAWENFORCEMENTPEPTALK.COM



                        Attorney Rob Kronenberg WWW.RKRONENBERGLAW.COM

                        Appeal Psychologist: Mark Lerner
                        http://www.crisisdoctors.com/Site/Dr._Mark_Lerner.html

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                        • Originally posted by Vista View Post
                          As far as the attorney question, NYPD will always be represented by an attorney.
                          I don't believe there is a high sucess rate for NYPD Defense even when they use attorneys.

                          Same goes for the Psychologists Level 1 they use, there is currently 10 openings on NYC jobs for their positions as of July 2017....

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                          • I took my oral psych interview 2 weeks ago but didn't get a call nor mail. Is that a good thing?

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                            • a preliminary decision was made on my file about 3 weeks ago. my investigator told me recently that it takes several months to receive a letter in the mail. to my understanding i heard that when you receive a letter in the mail it means you got DQed. can anyone shed any light on this?

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                              • Originally posted by Ny sports View Post

                                Your partially right and partially wrong. Appealing a DQ is a very difficult obstacle to overcome and you have a MUCH better chance to simply start all over again.
                                The part that your wrong on which is what I thought up until recently as well, you don't have to wait 3 years for your psych to expire. Technically, you could take the psych exam over again in a month if you have a back up exam that is going through processing. You will obviously fail though. Failing a psych exam from one exam is a completely separate situation from another exam. In reality that's not really the case because they will review your previous psych records. It's imperative that you do allow a certain amount of time to pass in between the time that you failed a psych and then attempted to re-process off of another exam. I would think at the very least 2 years but 3 years or longer would be better.
                                When did you take your oral psych?

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