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  • Originally posted by nypdhopeful15 View Post
    "Pegues’ ascension through the ranks came in spite of the racism he says he endured within the force — and his fight isn’t over. After speaking out publicly against police brutality, and revealing his gang history, Pegues was stripped of his NYPD-issue firearms and his pension was placed under review. His $200 million lawsuit is pending."

    I think this paragraph just speaks for itself




    There is a "catch-all" question on the extensive personal history questionnaire that asks: "do you know of anything in your background that might affect your suitability for appointment?" This is for individuals with undetected negative incidents who falsify or omit material facts are generally terminated or disqualified from employment. No matter how many years have passed.

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    • Originally posted by CountyCorrectionOfficer View Post
      There is a "catch-all" question on the extensive personal history questionnaire that asks: "do you know of anything in your background that might affect your suitability for appointment?" This is for individuals with undetected negative incidents who falsify or omit material facts are generally terminated or disqualified from employment. No matter how many years have passed.
      Just goes to show, in NYPD these days one mistake has the potential to have you disqualified from employment. I get why they do it though with the amount of applicants.

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      • Originally posted by nypdhopeful15 View Post
        Just goes to show, in NYPD these days one mistake has the potential to have you disqualified from employment. I get why they do it though with the amount of applicants.

        And one mistake on the job can get you terminated from them as well......

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        • He's a pos Thug who should have been dropped. He's your typical THUG who played the a Race Card in order to be a criminal with a badge. Why MOS aren't beating the **** out of him is a wonder.

          He needs to be dropped in a gutter. **** him. **** the IDIOTS who passed him.
          NYPD owns this and Command should be ASHAMED. But they aren't. It's just another indication of how low the NYPD has become. How the standards and lack of discipline are lower each year.

          You get the ghetto dept you pay for. Why work for such a ****-poor agency..?
          Now go home and get your shine box!

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          • Originally posted by nypdhopeful15 View Post
            "Pegues’ ascension through the ranks came in spite of the racism he says he endured within the force — and his fight isn’t over. After speaking out publicly against police brutality, and revealing his gang history, Pegues was stripped of his NYPD-issue firearms and his pension was placed under review. His $200 million lawsuit is pending."

            I think this paragraph just speaks for itself

            He was Ray Kelly's & Phil Banks's boy
            Last edited by Vista; 05-25-2016, 09:19 AM.
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            • Originally posted by Vista View Post
              He was Ray Kelly's & Phil Banks's boy

              Was.....again all NYPD disciplinary action again him is based upon omission of material facts at the time of application and subsequent appointment.



              This can happen at any time during one's active career whether the incident(s) occurred 1 month, 1 year, 10 years or even fifty years ago!
              Last edited by CountyCorrectionOfficer; 05-25-2016, 11:19 AM.

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              • Originally posted by CountyCorrectionOfficer View Post

                Was.....again all NYPD disciplinary action again him is based upon omission of material facts at the time of application and subsequent appointment.



                This can happen at any time during one's active career whether the incident(s) occurred 1 month, 1 year, 10 years or even fifty years ago!
                yupp. Thats a road never traveled even by NYPD. First time in history their going back to the original application to try and yank his pension. Piece of garbage.
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                • Originally posted by Vista View Post
                  yupp. Thats a road never traveled even by NYPD. First time in history their going back to the original application to try and yank his pension. Piece of garbage.
                  Not really, Vista. They have been known to yank new recruits out of the academy as their background investigations were still on-going. The aspect about the pension is that he's still actively employed by NYPD albeit under suspension; However, once retired, out of NYPD completely, and receiving a pension-- it then can not be rescinded. Outside the NYC retirement system but within NYS; a state or local government public employee's pension rights CAN NOT be taken away from him/her fro any reason. Whether terminated for cause, criminal activity while in public office--if one accumulates minimum service credit in the PFRS, Teachers RS, NYSERS or NYSLRS--they will receive a pension.
                  Last edited by CountyCorrectionOfficer; 05-25-2016, 06:09 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by CountyCorrectionOfficer View Post
                    Not really, Vista. They have been known to yank new recruits out of the academy as their background investigations were still on-going. The aspect about the pension is that he's still actively employed by NYPD albeit under suspension; However, once retired, out of NYPD completely, and receiving a pension-- it then can not be rescinded. Outside the NYC retirement system but within NYS; a state or local government public employee's pension rights CAN NOT be taken away from him/her fro any reason. Whether terminated for cause, criminal activity while in public office--if one accumulates minimum service credit in the PFRS, Teachers RS, NYSERS or NYSERS--they will receive a pension.

                    I read he had retired. Even had a retiree pistol permit issued in nassau county. NYPD called pistol licensing and had them immideately revoke it.

                    They were also attempting to decertify his name from the list based on his lies, nullifying his employment. It was an angle they have never tried before.

                    Was a while ago- thats what i remember off hand
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                    you make up your mind.
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                    Appeal Psychologist: Mark Lerner
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                    • Originally posted by Vista View Post
                      I read he had retired. Even had a retiree pistol permit issued in nassau county. NYPD called pistol licensing and had them immideately revoke it.

                      They were also attempting to decertify his name from the list based on his lies, nullifying his employment. It was an angle they have never tried before.

                      Was a while ago- thats what i remember off hand




                      Vista, are you referring to this article?
                      http://nypost.com/2014/09/09/disgraced-ex-cop-corey-pegues-loses-guns-possibly-pension/




                      Yes, he is retired and his Nassau County Pistol License was subsequently revoked by NCPD. On the topic of decertification off a list of eligibles (i.e. disqualification and removal); once a individual is appointed off a list and a three year period has elapsed; then it must be proven that the applicant practiced fraud and deceit in securing the appointment.But this is not a difficult matter to pursue. In all my many years of researching these sort of cases involving NY law enforcement personnel being terminated and decertified over negative background issues--I never heard of any of the cases involving post retirement. This seems to be a first and taking away his pension after the material facts were disclosed after he retired will be difficult and in the end will land up in State Supreme Court.
                      Last edited by CountyCorrectionOfficer; 05-25-2016, 06:10 PM.

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                      • Originally posted by CountyCorrectionOfficer View Post
                        Not really, Vista. They have been known to yank new recruits out of the academy as their background investigations were still on-going. The aspect about the pension is that he's still actively employed by NYPD albeit under suspension; However, once retired, out of NYPD completely, and receiving a pension-- it then can not be rescinded. Outside the NYC retirement system but within NYS; a state or local government public employee's pension rights CAN NOT be taken away from him/her fro any reason. Whether terminated for cause, criminal activity while in public office--if one accumulates minimum service credit in the PFRS, Teachers RS, NYSERS or NYSLRS--they will receive a pension.

                        He shouldn't have been hired in the first place they knew what he was since day 1 why take his pension away he was allowed to get this far
                        So it's not 100% his fault. Meanwhile I'm getting the 3rd degree for seatbelt tickets from 2004

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                        • Originally posted by shimmy View Post
                          He shouldn't have been hired in the first place they knew what he was since day 1 why take his pension away he was allowed to get this far
                          So it's not 100% his fault. Meanwhile I'm getting the 3rd degree for seatbelt tickets from 2004
                          The news article never stated he was arrested so how could they know from Day One? Instead, NYPD is relying on the pretense that he SHOULD HAVE noted this on his original application for employment. Which makes it a material omission of material fact which would under normal circumstances disqualify him for employment to begin with.

                          It pretty much the same scenario in regards to a recent previous poster on this forum in an undetected incident involving theft of property. He failed to list this event in his application; and days before he was scheduled to enter the police academy-- they rescinded their employment offer. Had he went into the academy as a recruit; he would have been terminated.

                          The last I read from his recent postings; he was applying for other metro area police agencies.
                          Last edited by CountyCorrectionOfficer; 05-26-2016, 04:38 PM.

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                          • Originally posted by CountyCorrectionOfficer View Post
                            The news article never stated he was arrested so how could they know from Day One? Instead, NYPD is relying on the pretense that he SHOULD HAVE noted this on his original application for employment. Which makes it a material omission of material fact which would under normal circumstances disqualify him for employment to begin with.

                            It pretty much the same scenario in regards to a recent previous poster on this forum in an undetected incident involving theft of property. He failed to list this event in his application; and days before he was scheduled to enter the police academy-- they rescinded their employment offer. Had he went into the academy as a recruit; he would have been terminated.

                            The last I read from his recent postings; he was applying for other metro area police agencies.
                            Shimmy needs to remember back the , everytbing was phones and paper- a thorough background was difficult
                            Problems with a psych exam?
                            Have an upcoming
                            PSYCHOLOGICAL EXAM that you NEED to PREPARE for?


                            If your Disqualified, Pressured too withdraw, Recieved a Proposed DQ or want to talk about the appeal process- check these guys out. Doesnt hurt too call them- free, detailed telepone consultation before
                            you make up your mind.
                            WWW.LAWENFORCEMENTPEPTALK.COM



                            Attorney Rob Kronenberg WWW.RKRONENBERGLAW.COM

                            Appeal Psychologist: Mark Lerner
                            http://www.crisisdoctors.com/Site/Dr._Mark_Lerner.html

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                            • Originally posted by Vista View Post
                              Shimmy needs to remember back the , everytbing was phones and paper- a thorough background was difficult

                              From a legal point of view the only absolute bar to appointment is a felony conviction. In addition, the NYC Administrative Code specially bars from NYPD appointment any person convicted of petty larceny. Can hiring standards be lowered?? Yes. Will NYPD do it?? NO. Generally speaking; hiring and retention guidelines with city and state police and corrections are quite consistent and stringent--rarely is there deviation from the guidelines. Upstate however; is a lot different.

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                              • Originally posted by Vista View Post
                                Shimmy needs to remember back the , everytbing was phones and paper- a thorough background was difficult
                                I can imagine how different it used to be but taking his pension away Is kinda harsh the hiring standards back then we're no where as tough as today so they took alot of people they wouldn't today. Still I'm sure they knew who he was when he was hired

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