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  • Originally posted by Vista View Post
    I read he had retired. Even had a retiree pistol permit issued in nassau county. NYPD called pistol licensing and had them immideately revoke it.

    They were also attempting to decertify his name from the list based on his lies, nullifying his employment. It was an angle they have never tried before.

    Was a while ago- thats what i remember off hand




    Vista, are you referring to this article?
    http://nypost.com/2014/09/09/disgraced-ex-cop-corey-pegues-loses-guns-possibly-pension/




    Yes, he is retired and his Nassau County Pistol License was subsequently revoked by NCPD. On the topic of decertification off a list of eligibles (i.e. disqualification and removal); once a individual is appointed off a list and a three year period has elapsed; then it must be proven that the applicant practiced fraud and deceit in securing the appointment.But this is not a difficult matter to pursue. In all my many years of researching these sort of cases involving NY law enforcement personnel being terminated and decertified over negative background issues--I never heard of any of the cases involving post retirement. This seems to be a first and taking away his pension after the material facts were disclosed after he retired will be difficult and in the end will land up in State Supreme Court.
    Last edited by CountyCorrectionOfficer; 05-25-2016, 06:10 PM.

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    • Originally posted by CountyCorrectionOfficer View Post
      Not really, Vista. They have been known to yank new recruits out of the academy as their background investigations were still on-going. The aspect about the pension is that he's still actively employed by NYPD albeit under suspension; However, once retired, out of NYPD completely, and receiving a pension-- it then can not be rescinded. Outside the NYC retirement system but within NYS; a state or local government public employee's pension rights CAN NOT be taken away from him/her fro any reason. Whether terminated for cause, criminal activity while in public office--if one accumulates minimum service credit in the PFRS, Teachers RS, NYSERS or NYSLRS--they will receive a pension.

      He shouldn't have been hired in the first place they knew what he was since day 1 why take his pension away he was allowed to get this far
      So it's not 100% his fault. Meanwhile I'm getting the 3rd degree for seatbelt tickets from 2004

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      • Originally posted by shimmy View Post
        He shouldn't have been hired in the first place they knew what he was since day 1 why take his pension away he was allowed to get this far
        So it's not 100% his fault. Meanwhile I'm getting the 3rd degree for seatbelt tickets from 2004
        The news article never stated he was arrested so how could they know from Day One? Instead, NYPD is relying on the pretense that he SHOULD HAVE noted this on his original application for employment. Which makes it a material omission of material fact which would under normal circumstances disqualify him for employment to begin with.

        It pretty much the same scenario in regards to a recent previous poster on this forum in an undetected incident involving theft of property. He failed to list this event in his application; and days before he was scheduled to enter the police academy-- they rescinded their employment offer. Had he went into the academy as a recruit; he would have been terminated.

        The last I read from his recent postings; he was applying for other metro area police agencies.
        Last edited by CountyCorrectionOfficer; 05-26-2016, 04:38 PM.

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        • Originally posted by CountyCorrectionOfficer View Post
          The news article never stated he was arrested so how could they know from Day One? Instead, NYPD is relying on the pretense that he SHOULD HAVE noted this on his original application for employment. Which makes it a material omission of material fact which would under normal circumstances disqualify him for employment to begin with.

          It pretty much the same scenario in regards to a recent previous poster on this forum in an undetected incident involving theft of property. He failed to list this event in his application; and days before he was scheduled to enter the police academy-- they rescinded their employment offer. Had he went into the academy as a recruit; he would have been terminated.

          The last I read from his recent postings; he was applying for other metro area police agencies.
          Shimmy needs to remember back the , everytbing was phones and paper- a thorough background was difficult
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          • Originally posted by Vista View Post
            Shimmy needs to remember back the , everytbing was phones and paper- a thorough background was difficult

            From a legal point of view the only absolute bar to appointment is a felony conviction. In addition, the NYC Administrative Code specially bars from NYPD appointment any person convicted of petty larceny. Can hiring standards be lowered?? Yes. Will NYPD do it?? NO. Generally speaking; hiring and retention guidelines with city and state police and corrections are quite consistent and stringent--rarely is there deviation from the guidelines. Upstate however; is a lot different.

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            • Originally posted by Vista View Post
              Shimmy needs to remember back the , everytbing was phones and paper- a thorough background was difficult
              I can imagine how different it used to be but taking his pension away Is kinda harsh the hiring standards back then we're no where as tough as today so they took alot of people they wouldn't today. Still I'm sure they knew who he was when he was hired

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              • Originally posted by shimmy View Post
                I can imagine how different it used to be but taking his pension away Is kinda harsh the hiring standards back then we're no where as tough as today so they took alot of people they wouldn't today. Still I'm sure they knew who he was when he was hired

                It will be difficult to rescind a retirement pension that is already in force. I guess this what was on his mind when he went public with his past pre-employment transgressions.

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                  Last edited by USN_applicant; 12-12-2016, 02:41 PM.

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                  • Not familiar with Denver's psych process so can't comment on specifics of that. NYPD will probably want the results of the psych, it really depends on the reason for disqualification. Vista put it best though, it makes it easier for them to just rubber stamp another agency's decision. Good luck

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                    • Quick question, when you take the written psych do they make you fill out medical forms again? Like do they ask you if you had surgeries and or asthma etc again? My cousin from 4320 has his psych next week but during his medical they never put him on review for a ssurgery so he wants to know if psych will ask any questions related to it.
                      "Oh yes, the past can hurt. But you can either run from it, or learn from it."
                      - Rafiki, from The Lion King

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                      • Originally posted by StillWaiting141 View Post
                        Quick question, when you take the written psych do they make you fill out medical forms again? Like do they ask you if you had surgeries and or asthma etc again? My cousin from 4320 has his psych next week but during his medical they never put him on review for a ssurgery so he wants to know if psych will ask any questions related to it.
                        No during psych you aren't asked any medical questions


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                        • Originally posted by Jay_easy3197 View Post
                          No during psych you aren't asked any medical questions


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                          Okay thank you very much !!
                          "Oh yes, the past can hurt. But you can either run from it, or learn from it."
                          - Rafiki, from The Lion King

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                          • Originally posted by Jay_easy3197 View Post
                            No during psych you aren't asked any medical questions


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                            I remember the written psych background packet asking a question about hospitalizations. My shrink also asked the same question during the interview. A surgery isn't a problem though.

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                            • Originally posted by USN_applicant View Post
                              Good morning everybody, first time poster here. I was recently DQ'ed from the Denver PD process due to the psych test. I passed the polygraph, and was fairly far along in the hiring process. Will this have a negative or any impact on any future LE applications? I am planning to apply to NYPD whenever the next announcement opens and was wondering if my experience with another department would prevent me from getting hired somewhere else.

                              Thanks for any perspective you can provide!

                              Most of the small to mid-sized police agencies don't include psych testing or if they do, the MMPI personality inventory questionnaire. Do you have military experience?? That is a plus and a quality that LE employers are looking for.

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                              • Originally posted by nypdhopeful15 View Post
                                I remember the written psych background packet asking a question about hospitalizations. My shrink also asked the same question during the interview. A surgery isn't a problem though.
                                Okay thank you I'll let him know just to bring records in case asked.
                                "Oh yes, the past can hurt. But you can either run from it, or learn from it."
                                - Rafiki, from The Lion King

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