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  • Originally posted by Absolit3 View Post
    Psych DQed from NYPD but submitted a withdrawal. New department I'm being processed for asked if I was ever DQed from anywhere.

    Do I say yes or no?
    Were you proposed DQ or DQ? Id write withdrew in lieu of dq
    Problems with a psych exam?
    Have an upcoming
    PSYCHOLOGICAL EXAM that you NEED to PREPARE for?


    If your Disqualified, Pressured too withdraw, Recieved a Proposed DQ or want to talk about the appeal process- check these guys out. Doesnt hurt too call them- free, detailed telepone consultation before
    you make up your mind.
    WWW.LAWENFORCEMENTPEPTALK.COM



    Attorney Rob Kronenberg WWW.RKRONENBERGLAW.COM

    Appeal Psychologist: Mark Lerner
    http://www.crisisdoctors.com/Site/Dr._Mark_Lerner.html

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    • Originally posted by RETIREE View Post
      Question: If a candidate's folder is sitting in that big pile of possible DQ in the psych department, and the candidate has decided to pursue another career (unrelated to police work) and has no desire to engage in an appeal process, should he withdraw rather than wait to see final outcome? Leaving it sit there keeps open a possible option if it is eventually qualified. But is it better to withdraw than to have a DQ on record?
      mehhh, records will always be there.... But if you withdraw with no explanation why or without being compelled- i guesd theirs some level of plausible deniability
      Problems with a psych exam?
      Have an upcoming
      PSYCHOLOGICAL EXAM that you NEED to PREPARE for?


      If your Disqualified, Pressured too withdraw, Recieved a Proposed DQ or want to talk about the appeal process- check these guys out. Doesnt hurt too call them- free, detailed telepone consultation before
      you make up your mind.
      WWW.LAWENFORCEMENTPEPTALK.COM



      Attorney Rob Kronenberg WWW.RKRONENBERGLAW.COM

      Appeal Psychologist: Mark Lerner
      http://www.crisisdoctors.com/Site/Dr._Mark_Lerner.html

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      • Originally posted by RETIREE View Post
        Question: If a candidate's folder is sitting in that big pile of possible DQ in the psych department, and the candidate has decided to pursue another career (unrelated to police work) and has no desire to engage in an appeal process, should he withdraw rather than wait to see final outcome? Leaving it sit there keeps open a possible option if it is eventually qualified. But is it better to withdraw than to have a DQ on record?
        What you are speaking of with NYPD is sealed records not available to others outside of NYPD. Private Industry and other fields of public service could care less whether NYPD hired the person or not. Being disqualified (NOT HIRED) from NYPD police employment does NOT necessary mean the person is incapable of performing police work but rather the person is not up to their hiring standards. And many of those "not hired" go on to other law enforcement related employment elsewhere. Psychology evaluations are in the eye of the beholder. The majority of police agencies do not rely on them and do NOT employ a staff of psychologists. Background investigations are mainly criminal record and previous employment.

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        • Thank you Vista and County for the informative responses. Appreciate it.

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          • Originally posted by RETIREE View Post
            Thank you Vista and County for the informative responses. Appreciate it.

            No problem.............You're welcome!!

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            • Originally posted by CountyCorrectionOfficer View Post
              What you are speaking of with NYPD is sealed records not available to others outside of NYPD. Private Industry and other fields of public service could care less whether NYPD hired the person or not. Being disqualified (NOT HIRED) from NYPD police employment does NOT necessary mean the person is incapable of performing police work but rather the person is not up to their hiring standards. And many of those "not hired" go on to other law enforcement related employment elsewhere. Psychology evaluations are in the eye of the beholder. The majority of police agencies do not rely on them and do NOT employ a staff of psychologists. Background investigations are mainly criminal record and previous employment.
              Yea but if another department you are processing for has you sign a release of records they can then get them from Nypd no? I know for a certain department they ask for your NYPD investigators name and phone.
              SCPD written test: 105
              PAT: Passed
              Bi:Passed
              Medical: Passed
              Written Psych: Passed
              Oral Psych: Passed
              Polygraph: Passed
              Academy:?!?!?!

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              • Originally posted by SCPDhopeful9045 View Post
                Yea but if another department you are processing for has you sign a release of records they can then get them from Nypd no? I know for a certain department they ask for your NYPD investigators name and phone.
                Police agencies generally don't like to do the background investigative work for other agencies--they have enough to do on their own.When you sign a release of records--it is NOT in exclusive--but limited to criminal records, credit reports, previous and current employers, schools, and sometimes medical. NYPD background investigative records are sealed if the applicant is not hired. The rejected applicant has no access to them. Sounds like your dealing with Suffolk or Nassau County. From what I am reading on these forums they ( Nassau and Suffolk) appear to more stringent than NYPD in their hiring practices.

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                • Originally posted by CountyCorrectionOfficer View Post
                  Police agencies generally don't like to do the background investigative work for other agencies--they have enough to do on their own.When you sign a release of records--it is NOT in exclusive--but limited to criminal records, credit reports, previous and current employers, schools, and sometimes medical. NYPD background investigative records are sealed if the applicant is not hired. The rejected applicant has no access to them. Sounds like your dealing with Suffolk or Nassau County. From what I am reading on these forums they ( Nassau and Suffolk) appear to more stringent than NYPD in their hiring practices.
                  I'm still processing with NYPD and am not worried what they share as I have nothing to hide. But that's just what I understood from the whole process.
                  SCPD written test: 105
                  PAT: Passed
                  Bi:Passed
                  Medical: Passed
                  Written Psych: Passed
                  Oral Psych: Passed
                  Polygraph: Passed
                  Academy:?!?!?!

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                  • Originally posted by SCPDhopeful9045 View Post
                    I'm still processing with NYPD and am not worried what they share as I have nothing to hide. But that's just what I understood from the whole process.
                    Formal requests go through NYPD Legal Bureau. They may or may not release your records.

                    Other agencies like Nassau, Suffolk- likely will cooperate even if informally. I do believe my port authority investigator had my nassau booklet in front of him as well as my pistol permit app.
                    Problems with a psych exam?
                    Have an upcoming
                    PSYCHOLOGICAL EXAM that you NEED to PREPARE for?


                    If your Disqualified, Pressured too withdraw, Recieved a Proposed DQ or want to talk about the appeal process- check these guys out. Doesnt hurt too call them- free, detailed telepone consultation before
                    you make up your mind.
                    WWW.LAWENFORCEMENTPEPTALK.COM



                    Attorney Rob Kronenberg WWW.RKRONENBERGLAW.COM

                    Appeal Psychologist: Mark Lerner
                    http://www.crisisdoctors.com/Site/Dr._Mark_Lerner.html

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                    • Originally posted by Vista View Post
                      Formal requests go through NYPD Legal Bureau. They may or may not release your records.

                      Other agencies like Nassau, Suffolk- likely will cooperate even if informally. I do believe my port authority investigator had my nassau booklet in front of him as well as my pistol permit app.



                      Had your Nassau application in front of him or a photocopy?? The original document never should have left the office.

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                      • Hey guys, Im new on this thread. Just curious to see what other people have gone through. I have been on psych review for over 3 years now. Just last August they began contacting my old employers, but my investigator has not been in contact with me in over 2 years. Is this normal? I call her phone and it doesn't ever pick up and I can never leave voice mails. I took my initial exam back in 2011! According to someone at NYPD that exam is going to expire in a few weeks. Is this normal? I feel like I can't find anyone to tell me what is going on. Since I applied I got on with another department and have been here a while, but would still like to be NYPD. Anyone have any advice or maybe someone to call? Thanks!

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                        • Originally posted by JMike View Post
                          Hey guys, Im new on this thread. Just curious to see what other people have gone through. I have been on psych review for over 3 years now. Just last August they began contacting my old employers, but my investigator has not been in contact with me in over 2 years. Is this normal? I call her phone and it doesn't ever pick up and I can never leave voice mails. I took my initial exam back in 2011! According to someone at NYPD that exam is going to expire in a few weeks. Is this normal? I feel like I can't find anyone to tell me what is going on. Since I applied I got on with another department and have been here a while, but would still like to be NYPD. Anyone have any advice or maybe someone to call? Thanks!

                          Yes, it appears that you have been placed on psych "hold" indefinitely. The maximum life of any civil service list is FOUR years. The current list you are on is (or has) expired. During this lapsed period of time; have you bothered to call candidate relations? Obviously, you will have to take the written exam again for employment consideration.

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                          • I spoke to someone who said my list will expire this summer. I just don't understand how I can go this long and not speak with anyone. My investigator has not returned any emails and like I said I can't even leave a voice mail for her. I didn't even know about candidate relations. Is that worth checking out? What will they tell me? I don't want to go around my investigator then suddenly my file goes to the bottom of the stack (not like it could take any longer than it already has). Thanks for the info

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                            • Originally posted by CountyCorrectionOfficer View Post
                              Had your Nassau application in front of him or a photocopy?? The original document never should have left the office.
                              Id imagine a copy lol
                              Problems with a psych exam?
                              Have an upcoming
                              PSYCHOLOGICAL EXAM that you NEED to PREPARE for?


                              If your Disqualified, Pressured too withdraw, Recieved a Proposed DQ or want to talk about the appeal process- check these guys out. Doesnt hurt too call them- free, detailed telepone consultation before
                              you make up your mind.
                              WWW.LAWENFORCEMENTPEPTALK.COM



                              Attorney Rob Kronenberg WWW.RKRONENBERGLAW.COM

                              Appeal Psychologist: Mark Lerner
                              http://www.crisisdoctors.com/Site/Dr._Mark_Lerner.html

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                              • Also, can someone be on hold for that long with no update? They began reaching out to my past employers about 6 months ago, but since then I haven't heard anything. Is this normal?

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