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  • Originally posted by Hungry Gorilla View Post
    Hi guys,
    I'm appealing psych review, nypd asked me to send back my psych result by my personal psychologist and about to send back to nypd. When they get it and if they reconsider to process, will they put me off 'on review' or will they call me back to have another written/oral test? If one of you guys had to appeal, how long did wait for an answer?
    I would ask Vista. He was more than helpful on that topic.

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    • Originally posted by Hungry Gorilla View Post
      Hi guys,
      I'm appealing psych review, nypd asked me to send back my psych result by my personal psychologist and about to send back to nypd. When they get it and if they reconsider to process, will they put me off 'on review' or will they call me back to have another written/oral test? If one of you guys had to appeal, how long did wait for an answer?
      Who did your appeal report? Was it a forensic psychologist? Did they review NYPD's records? You may remain on review, while they "review" your file. At some time, they may call you back for another Interview, may mark you qualified or continue to disqualify you. If they disqualify you, it then gets forwarded to the NYC Civil Service Commision who may call you in for a hearing, mark you qualified or disqualified.

      It's not a simple process- thats why you should hire people who are familiar with it. Your local Psychologist has likely never handled an Appeal like this. While they can likely write a report, it's important that they have extensive knowledge of forensic psychology as it applies to law enforcement employment. Even more specificly, being familiar with NYPD Psych Services practices is even more helpful. It's also extremely prudent to be represented by an attorney- this is even explicitly reccomended by civil service commision on their website.
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      • Originally posted by Hungry Gorilla View Post
        Hi guys,
        I'm appealing psych review, nypd asked me to send back my psych result by my personal psychologist and about to send back to nypd. When they get it and if they reconsider to process, will they put me off 'on review' or will they call me back to have another written/oral test? If one of you guys had to appeal, how long did wait for an answer?

        Vista can answer that question for you. But I don't believe a psychological appeal process can take place until after you are deemed disqualified by the psych unit and notified by NYPD. Maybe NYPD changed the rules on psych appeals allowing them to kept "in-house" rather then going to the NYC CSC. Again, patience is a virtue for NYPD applicants.The hiring process is a very long, arduous one.

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        • Originally posted by Vista View Post
          Who did your appeal report? Was it a forensic psychologist? Did they review NYPD's records? You may remain on review, while they "review" your file. At some time, they may call you back for another Interview, may mark you qualified or continue to disqualify you. If they disqualify you, it then gets forwarded to the NYC Civil Service Commision who may call you in for a hearing, mark you qualified or disqualified.

          It's not a simple process- thats why you should hire people who are familiar with it. Your local Psychologist has likely never handled an Appeal like this. While they can likely write a report, it's important that they have extensive knowledge of forensic psychology as it applies to law enforcement employment. Even more specificly, being familiar with NYPD Psych Services practices is even more helpful. It's also extremely prudent to be represented by an attorney- this is even explicitly reccomended by civil service commision on their website.

          Psychology is an art...not an exact science--CCO

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          • The psych part has been the worse experience of my life I was so close to getting into the academy.. my background investigation has been cleared by my investigator I've had 2 oral interviews just to be put on review in December 2015 I don't know how much longer I can wait! People keep telling me to try article 78 I'm not 100% sold on that idea I'm hoping I'm not waiting for 2 years like other candidates

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            • Originally posted by Vista View Post
              Who did your appeal report? Was it a forensic psychologist? Did they review NYPD's records? You may remain on review, while they "review" your file. At some time, they may call you back for another Interview, may mark you qualified or continue to disqualify you. If they disqualify you, it then gets forwarded to the NYC Civil Service Commision who may call you in for a hearing, mark you qualified or disqualified.

              It's not a simple process- thats why you should hire people who are familiar with it. Your local Psychologist has likely never handled an Appeal like this. While they can likely write a report, it's important that they have extensive knowledge of forensic psychology as it applies to law enforcement employment. Even more specificly, being familiar with NYPD Psych Services practices is even more helpful. It's also extremely prudent to be represented by an attorney- this is even explicitly reccomended by civil service commision on their website.
              My psychologist is a clinical psychologist but she has some experience and knowledge of forensic, also taught at John Jay college. She reviewed my nypd's records, I took a whole new evaluation with her as nypd requested. If I knew about this sooner I'd have hired someone who is familiar with. Unfortunately, I already spent too much money on her, can't afford to hire someone else. I'm just hoping that all my efforts through out the unending process turns up to something.
              Last edited by Hungry Gorilla; 04-12-2016, 06:15 PM.
              NYPD
              Exam: 3311, 3XX, 10/2012
              APD-5: 10/24/14 (Completed)
              Medical: 2/20/15 (Done)
              Psych Written: 3/10/15 (Done)
              Psych Oral: 3/24/15 (Done)
              Meet With BI: 4/30/15
              JST: ?
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              • Originally posted by shimmy View Post
                The psych part has been the worse experience of my life I was so close to getting into the academy.. my background investigation has been cleared by my investigator I've had 2 oral interviews just to be put on review in December 2015 I don't know how much longer I can wait! People keep telling me to try article 78 I'm not 100% sold on that idea I'm hoping I'm not waiting for 2 years like other candidates
                Try other departments.....NYPD isn't the only game in town. You will most definitely lose in an Article 78 proceeding. The court system will NOT substitute its judgement over the agency's discretion.
                Last edited by CountyCorrectionOfficer; 04-12-2016, 06:26 PM.

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                • Originally posted by Hungry Gorilla View Post
                  My psychologist is a clinical psychologist but she has some experience and knowledge of forensic, also taught at John Jay college. She reviewed my nypd's records, I took a whole new evaluation with her as nypd requested. If I knew about this sooner I'd have hired someone who is familiar with. Unfortunately, I already spent too much money on her, can't afford to hire someone else. I'm just hoping that all my efforts through out the unending process turns up to something.

                  Good luck with it....

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                  • Originally posted by Hungry Gorilla View Post
                    My psychologist is a clinical psychologist but she has some experience and knowledge of forensic, also taught at John Jay college. She reviewed my nypd's records, I took a whole new evaluation with her as nypd requested. If I knew about this sooner I'd have hired someone who is familiar with. Unfortunately, I already spent too much money on her, can't afford to hire someone else. I'm just hoping that all my efforts through out the unending process turns up to something.

                    Hey did you get an purposed dq letter?

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                    • Originally posted by CountyCorrectionOfficer View Post
                      Try other departments.....NYPD isn't the only game in town. You will most definitely lose in an Article 78 proceeding. The court system will NOT substitute its judgement over the agency's discretion.
                      There hasn't been a judgement yet from the nypd I don't think it's fair to wait 14 months for a decesion i know I'll get dqd if I go through with it but I'd hire a lawyer and another psych some people have to have had their purposed dq'd overturned it can't be impossible

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                      • Psych DQed from NYPD but submitted a withdrawal. New department I'm being processed for asked if I was ever DQed from anywhere.

                        Do I say yes or no?

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                        • Originally posted by shimmy View Post
                          There hasn't been a judgement yet from the nypd I don't think it's fair to wait 14 months for a decesion i know I'll get dqd if I go through with it but I'd hire a lawyer and another psych some people have to have had their purposed dq'd overturned it can't be impossible

                          You are confusing an Article 78 proceeding in state supreme court in contrast to appealing a physiological disqualification with the NYC Civil Service Commission. You really can't proceed to appeal unless you have been actually disqualified and removed from the list of eligibles. Unfortunately, in your case, you believe NYPD is moving "too slow" for you; but the average hiring process time from date of written exam to actual appointment runs about 3 years. Yes, physiological disqualifications can be overturned and your name restored to the list of eligibles but that is no guarantee of getting hired.

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                            • Originally posted by Absolit3 View Post
                              Psych DQed from NYPD but submitted a withdrawal. New department I'm being processed for asked if I was ever DQed from anywhere.

                              Do I say yes or no?
                              You were disqualified from NYPD appointment so you should answer "Yes" to the question. However; keep in mind each and every police agency has its own criteria for hiring. Most of the smaller agencies will overlook minor blemishes with the passage of time and will evaluate you on your overall record of accomplishment.

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                              • Question: If a candidate's folder is sitting in that big pile of possible DQ in the psych department, and the candidate has decided to pursue another career (unrelated to police work) and has no desire to engage in an appeal process, should he withdraw rather than wait to see final outcome? Leaving it sit there keeps open a possible option if it is eventually qualified. But is it better to withdraw than to have a DQ on record?

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