NYPD Psych DQ or on NYPD psych review info and help..

[Melvindrbk]

Your trolling this site too. LOL I have a prfile in my head on you here goes correct me if I'm wrong. Your probably about 350 pounds, bald and probably never had a girlfriend. You have one of those sirens on your car, collect all police patches, probably carry a phony shield and watch all the cop shows I'm I right so far. You really need to get a life and stop putting all these kids down on this site looking for advice. Go out and find a girlfriend

Exactly, we are looking for advice, not someone to put us down. Smh.


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[CountyCorrectionOfficer]

Your trolling this site too. LOL I have a prfile in my head on you here goes correct me if I'm wrong. Your probably about 350 pounds, bald and probably never had a girlfriend. You have one of those sirens on your car, collect all police patches, probably carry a phony shield and watch all the cop shows I'm I right so far. You really need to get a life and stop putting all these kids down on this site looking for advice. Go out and find a girlfriend

HA HA HA.....just trying to give back what the system has given to me. That's all you need to know.
What's eating you?? You seem to be on the warpath with CCCSD as well. Chill out, watch the video and keep on speculating my weight, appearance, my likes and interests. That ought to keep you busy for a while.

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[Dinosaur32]

Retired.....have you read all the posts in this thread? The posters here looking for "advice" are all in the same leaking boat. What they want, for the most part, they are not going to get here. The NYPD application process is notoriously long. And there are no hard and fast time lines. The fact that each candidate's case is different and is handled individually has been oft repeated. But the same questions get asked over and over. A couple of non-LEO posters give solid advice. Very rarely do the posters accept the reality of their situation. A first time reader of this thread might wonder how the NYPD ever finds sufficient applicants to fill a class. Before you criticize other posters, perhaps you might want to include a bit about yourself in your profile.

[CountyCorrectionOfficer]

Retired.....have you read all the posts in this thread? The posters here looking for "advice" are all in the same leaking boat. What they want, for the most part, they are not going to get here. The NYPD application process is notoriously long. And there are no hard and fast time lines. The fact that each candidate's case is different and is handled individually has been oft repeated. But the same questions get asked over and over. A couple of non-LEO posters give solid advice. Very rarely do the posters accept the reality of their situation. A first time reader of this thread might wonder how the NYPD ever finds sufficient applicants to fill a class. Before you criticize other posters, perhaps you might want to include a bit about yourself in your profile.

LT., I could not have said it any better but to paraphrase a common jargon in our business, "It is was it is".

[PETE3319]

I withdrew from an exam last month and took exam 4324 in March 2014 which is due to receive their APD-5 next per APD. Would I receive this still or not, and would you advise even filling it out. I know you know my situation @countycorrections


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[PETE3319]

The problem is not only what you did. The problem is that you did not inform your investigator. That is the crux of your problem

Exactly. If I knew it was on file I would've mentioned it. I could run around in circles forever with this just have to focus on the future.


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[PETE3319]

Sure. My interview primarily had to deal with my alcohol usage. I told her that I just drink socially but I've had times throughout college that I've gotten too drunk and blacked out (who hasn't? But apparently through some research a lot of people have had this problem). She went into great detail about how many drinks it takes to get me drunk, do I drink alone, when was the last time I got sick from drinking, etc. It had to have been about 80% of the interview give or take. I very very rarely drink at all throughout the week and it's basically just a Friday/Saturday thing and it isn't always something I do. I've gone weeks without a drink, to which I told her. I basically just do it when I get together with my friends for the most part.

I haven't done a single drug (not even marijuana), never smoked a cigarette, no traffic violations or parking violations. No arrest history. Never was disciplined in school (other then a detention but I can't even remember if this was asked or not) or work.

I really thought that I was going to be fine going into this whole process, so to be DQed is pretty discouraging; especially after all I've gone through so far. Waiting 2 years just to get it started was hard enough!

Damn. Well being that you told them you've gotten blacked out a few times shows you may have a drinking Issue in their eyes. They probably asked you about the endless alcohol questions to see if you were consistent and you probably had a few answers that weren't. Only thing you can really do is contact a lawyer and try to appeal it. Best of luck.


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[Dinosaur32]

Pete......Hopefully you will succeed in finding a LE position. What you will learn on the job is that every interaction with a LEO is recorded somewhere. So even though no official action was taken against you, once campus officers were involved your name was recorded. This type of incident hangs up many candidates across the profession. And as data storage becomes more refined, these situations will only occur more frequently. Today, full disclosure means absolutely that.

[CountyCorrectionOfficer]

Pete......Hopefully you will succeed in finding a LE position. What you will learn on the job is that every interaction with a LEO is recorded somewhere. So even though no official action was taken against you, once campus officers were involved your name was recorded. This type of incident hangs up many candidates across the profession. And as data storage becomes more refined, these situations will only occur more frequently. Today, full disclosure means absolutely that.

LT., what I want to add to your comments is that on many police candidate applications they ask about "undetected crimes" or acts of misbehavior, drug usage etc. And many of these agencies do polygraph testings of their applicants. If you don't pass the polygraph examination on background matters...you don't get the job.

[CCCSD]

Damn. Well being that you told them you've gotten blacked out a few times shows you may have a drinking Issue in their eyes. They probably asked you about the endless alcohol questions to see if you were consistent and you probably had a few answers that weren't. Only thing you can really do is contact a lawyer and try to appeal it. Best of luck.


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Drinking to blacking out isn't "you may..." It IS an issue. A serious one. Let us thank them for catching it and not allowing tae to go further in the process. As to appealing it. What is there to base an appeal on?

[CountyCorrectionOfficer]

I withdrew from an exam last month and took exam 4324 in March 2014 which is due to receive their APD-5 next per APD. Would I receive this still or not, and would you advise even filling it out. I know you know my situation @countycorrections


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Yes, I am aware of your circumstances despite the fact you previously stated in an earlier posting that I do not know all the details. Now to answer your question. Every candidate who passed a NYPD entry level civil service exam will receive paperwork (APD-5) from them to complete--even those whom were previously DQed, dropped out of the process, former employees seeking re-employment consideration etc.

You can complete the APD-5, albeit truthfully of course; then return the document back to them in the manner they specify. Upon review of the document;they will check your previously sealed candidate BI file and most likely will send you a notice of disqualification.


Again, as I have stated; given the passage of time--another police agency might extend employment consideration to you based upon on your "record as a whole".

[PETE3319]

Drinking to blacking out isn't "you may..." It IS an issue. A serious one. Let us thank them for catching it and not allowing tae to go further in the process. As to appealing it. What is there to base an appeal on?

I'm not a lawyer so I couldn't tell you. He can at least try to see his options


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[PETE3319]

Yes, I am aware of your circumstances despite the fact you previously stated in an earlier posting that I do not know all the details. Now to answer your question. Every candidate who passed a NYPD entry level civil service exam will receive paperwork (APD-5) from them to complete--even those whom were previously DQed, dropped out of the process, former employees seek re-employment consideration etc.

You can complete the APD-5, albeit truthfully of course; then return the document it back to them in the manner they specify. Upon review of the document;they will check your previously sealed candidate BI file and most likely will send you a notice of disqualification.


Again, as I have stated; given the passage of time--another police agency might extend employment consideration to you based upon on your "record as a whole".

Roger. For NC Auxiliary I was going to say exactly what happened to the deputy officer before the BI begins to see his point of view.


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[Vista]

Exactly. If I knew it was on file I would've mentioned it. I could run around in circles forever with this just have to focus on the future.


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Thats why i have always said long before you fill out APD forms, you shoukd contact every school, employer, etc and ask for every record they have on you.....

[Vista]

Drinking to blacking out isn't "you may..." It IS an issue. A serious one. Let us thank them for catching it and not allowing tae to go further in the process. As to appealing it. What is there to base an appeal on?

They kinda dug them self a ditch.... Instead of chalking it off to a college incident they volunteered info demonstrating ongoing alcohol abuse (at least how it sounds to me). Id at least appeal to get the records and see if their narrative as psych services has it written down can be rebutted, or re-explained in a better context.

I think i had the best answer to why i drink alcohol?

Do you usually drink to get drunk? No.

Then why do you drink if you dont intend to get drunk? "Well, honestly i like the bitterness of IPA's when im eating hot spicy wings- and dry red wine's with my steak. But, beer makes me fat and good red wine costs too much , so i usually stick to club soda."

There was silence and a suprised stare. Topic dropped