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  • Originally posted by BronxBombers View Post
    I failed NYPD psych and am processing for NYC Corrections while having passed everything including the psych yet I'm still on review apparently they are waiting for a response from the NYPD on why I failed
    extremely common--for obvious reasons, if one agency is thinking your fine, but sees you were psych DQ elsewhere (which your investigator would inform them of) they've got to look into it. I knew someone psych DQ from port authority but Q'd for NYPD, took awhile for her to get PA to release it to NYPD but once she did she moved along and was hired. Different agencies have diff standards, however doc and NYPD have very similar standards so it raises questions when one agency thinks your good to go and the other didn't--have to see if they missed something or you withheld something. Not necessarily a big deal, could be that NYPD failed you 3 years ago and whatever the issue was back then, isn't an issue anymore because it was awhile ago

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    • Originally posted by CountyCorrectionOfficer View Post

      Getting into altercations, misdemeanor assault convictions also weighs heavily against candidates for NYPD.


      BTW, a conviction of Petty Larceny is an automatic bar to NYPD appointment persuant to NYC Administrative Code.

      I guess I might have chased PETE3319 away with this discussion. But hey, "got to tell it like it is" as the Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young pop song goes. Just trying to help people seeking a career in this field to face reality.
      It's not an automatic bar--felonies are though. Petit larceny is a concern, mainly because there are A LOT of opportunities for cops to be tempted, they are in way more situations where they are collecting evidence money, drugs, jewelry etc--like the PO that took a credit card out of a deceased Guy's wallet awhile back. If you are honest and it's clear you had a solitary lapse of judgement that really doesn't reflect who you are--which starts with owning up to your mistakes...you have a chance

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      • Originally posted by mike_s1234 View Post
        It's not an automatic bar--felonies are though. Petit larceny is a concern, mainly because there are A LOT of opportunities for cops to be tempted, they are in way more situations where they are collecting evidence money, drugs, jewelry etc--like the PO that took a credit card out of a deceased Guy's wallet awhile back. If you are honest and it's clear you had a solitary lapse of judgement that really doesn't reflect who you are--which starts with owning up to your mistakes...you have a chance
        I don't know the nypd might give u the ok but the psych doctor will most definitely put u on review for the most minor bump I had a false complaint filed against me in 2012 the cops never even called me to defend myself or give my side of the story when the doctor found the complaint he called me for a 2nd oral interview I explained myself and how it was a false complaint but I ended up on psych review besides the complaint I only have some moving violations against me

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        • Melvi,

          Guess you don't understand cause and effect. Your attempt to downplay my comment shows your lack of maturity and demonstrates WHY you aren't qualified to be in LE.
          Now go home and get your shine box!

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          • Originally posted by CCCSD View Post
            Melvi,

            Guess you don't understand cause and effect. Your attempt to downplay my comment shows your lack of maturity and demonstrates WHY you aren't qualified to be in LE.
            What comment are you taking about ? I was asking you. I was not making any assumptions


            Sent from my House Phone!!

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            • [QUOTE=Melvindrbk;3803589]
              Originally posted by mike_s1234 View Post

              How do you know that ? Are you a retired cop ?


              Sent from my House Phone!!
              No, I've worked in the hiring process

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              • [QUOTE=mike_s1234;3805078]
                Originally posted by Melvindrbk View Post

                No, I've worked in the hiring process
                Good to know. Are you retired already ??


                Sent from my House Phone!!

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                • Hey guys question for you guys.
                  Does anyone have a number for the Psych unit. A number that someone picks up lol. i was put in review this morning until high school records get faxed. But the school sent out the records to get turned in to film 5 days ago , so I keep calling the number that no one picks up. Any help would be great. Thanks guys

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                  • Originally posted by Lijames631 View Post
                    Hey guys question for you guys.
                    Does anyone have a number for the Psych unit. A number that someone picks up lol. i was put in review this morning until high school records get faxed. But the school sent out the records to get turned in to film 5 days ago , so I keep calling the number that no one picks up. Any help would be great. Thanks guys
                    You should email the doctor. [email protected]


                    Sent from my House Phone!!

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                    • Originally posted by Melvindrbk View Post
                      You should email the doctor. [email protected]
                      She didn't give me a first name only last name.

                      Sent from my House Phone!!

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                      • Keep calling the number you have until someone picks up. Officer Rebah sometimes answer that phone. He can help you out. Try calling early in the morning like around 7am


                        Sent from my House Phone!!

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                        • Awesome, I'll try tomorrow. Thanks.

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                          • Originally posted by mike_s1234 View Post
                            extremely common--for obvious reasons, if one agency is thinking your fine, but sees you were psych DQ elsewhere (which your investigator would inform them of) they've got to look into it. I knew someone psych DQ from port authority but Q'd for NYPD, took awhile for her to get PA to release it to NYPD but once she did she moved along and was hired. Different agencies have diff standards, however doc and NYPD have very similar standards so it raises questions when one agency thinks your good to go and the other didn't--have to see if they missed something or you withheld something. Not necessarily a big deal, could be that NYPD failed you 3 years ago and whatever the issue was back then, isn't an issue anymore because it was awhile ago

                            Most of the smaller agencies don't even bother with psych evaluations. Psychology is basically a "hit or miss" speculative art--not an exact science.

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                            • Originally posted by CountyCorrectionOfficer View Post

                              Most of the smaller agencies don't even bother with psych evaluations. Psychology is basically a "hit or miss" speculative art--not an exact science.
                              Actually, each state has a commission on law enforcement standards, and they are working toward changing the hiring process of smaller agencies. And a PhD, which most psychs have, is by definition an doctoral level research degree.

                              Not to mention the fact that many DQs are upheld by CSC, which is made up of non-agency attorneys, I think it's fair to assume they aren't risking serious lawsuits on the basis of witchcraft.

                              https://www.theiacp.org/Portals/0/do...015YearEnd.pdf

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                              • Originally posted by mike_s1234 View Post
                                Actually, each state has a commission on law enforcement standards, and they are working toward changing the hiring process of smaller agencies. And a PhD, which most psychs have, is by definition an doctoral level research degree.

                                Not to mention the fact that many DQs are upheld by CSC, which is made up of non-agency attorneys, I think it's fair to assume they aren't risking serious lawsuits on the basis of witchcraft.

                                https://www.theiacp.org/Portals/0/do...015YearEnd.pdf

                                True, most of the NYPD disqualifications are upheld by the CSC. Negative character DQs are nearly next to impossible to overturn. As you know, the courts have given appointing authorities 'broad discretion' in appointments since these positions are deemed sensitive in nature and require the public trust and confidence. Even if the CSC does restore one's name to the certified list of eligibles--it is still no guarantee of getting hired by NYPD.

                                Many of the states require their law enforcement personnel to be centrally licensed by their state's dept. of criminal justice. Texas and Florida come into mind.

                                Hiring practices vary from agency to agency. A candidate that has been DQed from NYPD is NOT necessarily completely barred from law enforcement employment. Up until the mid-1990s; appointing officers were held personally liable for negligent hiring. The U.S. Supreme Court removed personal responsibility in a ruling involving an Oklahoma county sheriff.

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