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  • Originally posted by Nypdcan1 View Post
    Hey all. I just found out I'm not approved for hire. They won't tell me why. Just that my case wasn't signed off by the chief. Is there anything I can do in regards to appealing? My bi told me they have the right to hire whoever they want. I'm just wondering what options I may have.
    NYPD protocol is that you receive a letter of disqualification either due to negative character, medical or psychological issues. If the disqualification is due to character or medical issues; your chances of overturning it are practically null.For psychological issues; you would need to enlist the services of a psychological consulting firm to rebut what the NYPD psychology unit has written about you.

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    • Originally posted by Vista View Post
      No DQ is an automatic dq for another agency. It will be weighed into their decision but still decided on a case by case basis

      Depends upon the agency.

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      • Originally posted by CountyCorrectionOfficer View Post
        NYPD protocol is that you receive a letter of disqualification either due to negative character, medical or psychological issues. If the disqualification is due to character or medical issues; your chances of overturning it are practically null.For psychological issues; you would need to enlist the services of a psychological consulting firm to rebut what the NYPD psychology unit has written about you.
        It's the character part where I was not approved. Apparently by 1 of the 4 who review the case. Heartbreaking to go through everything. All the days off. Drive to Atlantic city for accident report that never existed. The $ on everything. Im hoping the letter for dq will give me some more info on why I was dq'd.
        Exam:3310 09/12
        List #3xx
        Medical: Done
        Written Psych: Done
        Oral Psych: Passed
        Meet Bi: Done/Under Investigation
        JST: Done
        Mini-Med:?

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        • Originally posted by Nypdcan1 View Post
          It's the character part where I was not approved. Apparently by 1 of the 4 who review the case. Heartbreaking to go through everything. All the days off. Drive to Atlantic city for accident report that never existed. The $ on everything. Im hoping the letter for dq will give me some more info on why I was dq'd.
          Character disqualifications generally center around arrests, convictions and job terminations.

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          • Originally posted by Nypdcan1 View Post
            It's the character part where I was not approved. Apparently by 1 of the 4 who review the case. Heartbreaking to go through everything. All the days off. Drive to Atlantic city for accident report that never existed. The $ on everything. Im hoping the letter for dq will give me some more info on why I was dq'd.

            It will give a general reason.

            BI, SGT, LT, Captain are the ones who sign off. Ultimate decision rests with the highest ranking reviewer (but these are only reccomendations). Chief has final say (im almost certain they rubber stamp the captains decision, as it would be arduous to read every applicant report). I was once told that the decisions are moreor less made at the Lt level.

            your case will likely be forwarded to a seperate unit at apd called the review unit. Sometime down the line, They will re-review your case detail, contact you via notice of proposed dq and afford your oppurtunity to address their concerns. From therethey will decide to dq your or not, if they do you can continue to appeal to civil service.

            (unless the person who held you up wants to defer you a class or
            two and they have you on hold and not review. It may be helpful to ask your BI if your on review or hold)
            Last edited by Vista; 10-16-2015, 06:45 AM.
            Problems with a psych exam?
            Have an upcoming
            PSYCHOLOGICAL EXAM that you NEED to PREPARE for?


            If your Disqualified, Pressured too withdraw, Recieved a Proposed DQ or want to talk about the appeal process- check these guys out. Doesnt hurt too call them- free, detailed telepone consultation before
            you make up your mind.
            WWW.LAWENFORCEMENTPEPTALK.COM



            Attorney Rob Kronenberg WWW.RKRONENBERGLAW.COM

            Appeal Psychologist: Mark Lerner
            http://www.crisisdoctors.com/Site/Dr._Mark_Lerner.html

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            • Originally posted by CountyCorrectionOfficer View Post
              NYPD protocol is that you receive a letter of disqualification either due to negative character, medical or psychological issues. If the disqualification is due to character or medical issues; your chances of overturning it are practically null.For psychological issues; you would need to enlist the services of a psychological consulting firm to rebut what the NYPD psychology unit has written about you.

              Medical DQ's- wouldnt discount the appeal process so much. I know two people personally- one was diagnosed by nypd docs as having scoliosis.. I sent him to my friend whos a spine sugeon who basically shredded nypd's assertion and nypd agreed with his doctors report.

              My other friend got diagnosed by a NYPD PA as having a heart arythmia based on the EKG's automated interpretation. My uncle (Cardiac Surgeon) and two other heart doctors wrote him letters stating the EKG's automated interpretation was wrong and is clinically unreliable. He won his too.

              Nypd doesnt do in depth testing if they suspect something. They leave that up to the candidate to do at their own expense (often covered by health insurance)

              The medical review / appeal process is one of the easier ones. Also, a medical dq-i would be the most likely to appeal, because its SO easy to get a good second medical opinion from a qualified expert when you live in this area..... (And And you do get on, never rely on the dept surgeon / district surgeon for treatment advice- always get an opinion by someone who doesnt have the departments interests in mind. )

              My biggest tip for the medical- blood pressure... if your blood pressure run's on the high side- no salt / caffeine dieg can have a big effect. Also, the pressure in one arm usually run's a bit lower than the other (non-dominant hand typically is slightly lower). Also, if they want to take your pressure a second or third time- if its taken within three minutes of the last subsuqent time, on the same arm you will likely get a "false high. Many doctors and nurses dont take blood pressure accurately. It (cuff/arm positioning, erc) so it would be smart for you to know how to accurately take it. Uncontrolled hypertension is a HUGE disqualifier that many people have and dont know they have. If you know you float arount at the MPTC cut-off (139/90) it would be a good idea to get it under control before you walk in for a medical exam. The stress of a medical exam under these circumstances may damn well push you over the mark. Also- best type of doctor to see for High Blood Pressure is not a general practitioner or cardiologist- while they do know alot about it and can treat it, hypertension specialists are most always Nephrologists (kidney doctors) because hypertension is most often non-cardiac- blood pressure is controlled by the kidneys. If you need a good detailed letter written, there the ones you want writing it.

              If you dont know your pressure, take it in the morning and at night over an extended period of time. Addressing it before you go in can save you alot of aggrevation.
              Last edited by Vista; 10-16-2015, 08:05 AM.
              Problems with a psych exam?
              Have an upcoming
              PSYCHOLOGICAL EXAM that you NEED to PREPARE for?


              If your Disqualified, Pressured too withdraw, Recieved a Proposed DQ or want to talk about the appeal process- check these guys out. Doesnt hurt too call them- free, detailed telepone consultation before
              you make up your mind.
              WWW.LAWENFORCEMENTPEPTALK.COM



              Attorney Rob Kronenberg WWW.RKRONENBERGLAW.COM

              Appeal Psychologist: Mark Lerner
              http://www.crisisdoctors.com/Site/Dr._Mark_Lerner.html

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              • Originally posted by Vista View Post
                It will give a general reason.

                BI, SGT, LT, Captain are the ones who sign off. Ultimate decision rests with the highest ranking reviewer (but these are only reccomendations). Chief has final say (im almost certain they rubber stamp the captains decision, as it would be arduous to read every applicant report). I was once told that the decisions are moreor less made at the Lt level.

                your case will likely be forwarded to a seperate unit at apd called the review unit. Sometime down the line, They will re-review your case detail, contact you via notice of proposed dq and afford your oppurtunity to address their concerns. From therethey will decide to dq your or not, if they do you can continue to appeal to civil service.

                (unless the person who held you up wants to defer you a class or
                two and they have you on hold and not review. It may be helpful to ask your BI if your on review or hold)

                They go by NYPD hiring and retention guidelines.

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                • hello. I've been on psych review for 9 months now. is there a time range for them to make a decision? is there anything i can do or anyone i can call? please help.

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                  • Originally posted by Geo809nypd View Post
                    hello. I've been on psych review for 9 months now. is there a time range for them to make a decision? is there anything i can do or anyone i can call? please help.
                    not really. Just need to wait it out
                    Problems with a psych exam?
                    Have an upcoming
                    PSYCHOLOGICAL EXAM that you NEED to PREPARE for?


                    If your Disqualified, Pressured too withdraw, Recieved a Proposed DQ or want to talk about the appeal process- check these guys out. Doesnt hurt too call them- free, detailed telepone consultation before
                    you make up your mind.
                    WWW.LAWENFORCEMENTPEPTALK.COM



                    Attorney Rob Kronenberg WWW.RKRONENBERGLAW.COM

                    Appeal Psychologist: Mark Lerner
                    http://www.crisisdoctors.com/Site/Dr._Mark_Lerner.html

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                    • I'm in the process for school safety; I had my oral with the psych department. The psychologist requested some paperwork to be faxed to him by a certain date, which was faxed on time. I called my investigator and he told me everything looks good just waiting on the psych department to make a decision. He didn't mention I was on review or hold, I was supposed to go in the academy next week but from the looks of it I will not be attending that class. My investigator told me not to worry that this is common. I'm completely confused on what's going on, am I on review or is the psych department taking there time with my paperwork? I could imagine them being overloaded with other candidates. BTW the paperwork was submitted the beginning of this month. I just really hope I don't get that letter in the mail. I'm also waiting on my medical appointment for PD.

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                      • Last week i finally had my oral psych interview and let me say... I'm baffled and still recouping from it. I won't go into great detail but i can say I've never in my life experienced anything like it. Obscure questions were the norm and downright ludicrous questions were ever present as well. Over an hour of them! By the end i could barely remember my own name.

                        At any rate at the end he put me on review because he wanted records that are 15+ years old that i found out i cannot procure because they do not exist anymore! I checked and they do not keep records over 10 years.

                        All i can do is have the doctors office write an officially signed document stating that fact and sending it to the psychologist. Anything else i can do at this point beyond that?

                        It was just so bizarre he was questioning my history of my teenage and high school when I'm in my 30s now. It's so far in the past. Not that i have anything in my high school records but the amount he was grilling me over 15 years ago was mind boggling.

                        I think he knew well that offices do not keep medical records for 15 years. Why even request them? Does this bode poorly for me since they don't exist anymore?

                        *reeling*

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                        Last edited by rmpee; 10-26-2015, 02:15 PM. Reason: 88th

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                        • Originally posted by rmpee View Post
                          Last week i finally had my oral psych interview and let me say... I'm baffled and still recouping from it. I won't go into great detail but i can say I've never in my life experienced anything like it. Obscure questions were the norm and downright ludicrous questions were ever present as well. Over an hour of them! By the end i could barely remember my own name.

                          At any rate at the end he put me on review because he wanted records that are 15+ years old that i found out i cannot procure because they do not exist anymore! I checked and they do not keep records over 10 years.

                          All i can do is have the doctors office write an officially signed document stating that fact and sending it to the psychologist. Anything else i can do at this point beyond that?

                          It was just so bizarre he was questioning my history of my teenage and high school when I'm in my 30s now. It's so far in the past. Not that i have anything in my high school records but the amount he was grilling me over 15 years ago was mind boggling.

                          I think he knew well that offices do not keep medical records for 15 years. Why even request them? Does this bode poorly for me since they don't exist anymore?

                          *reeling*

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                          Cheer up....there are other agencies out there that will not make you jump hoops like that. Hospitals and physicians are only required to keep records for ten years.
                          Last edited by CountyCorrectionOfficer; 10-26-2015, 02:41 PM.

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                          • nickyrisky
                            nickyrisky commented
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                            this is exactly what happened with me and i got nopd just now...... what happened??? i know its from 2015 but idk if i have hope anymore... over medical records i dont have and a speeding ticket i had when i was 17 and im 25 now

                        • Originally posted by CountyCorrectionOfficer View Post


                          Cheer up....there are other agencies out there that will not make you jump hoops like that. Hospitals and physicians are only required to keep records for ten years.
                          I'm fully cheered. Ha. Just an experience. Thanks for the response

                          I have no problems jumping through hoops. Wouldn't have made it this far if i did! Just curious if "additional documents" and in review is common?

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                          Last edited by rmpee; 10-26-2015, 03:54 PM.

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                          • [QUOTE=rmpee;3758630]I'm fully cheered. Ha. Just an experience. Thanks for the response

                            I have no problems jumping through hoops. Wouldn't have made it this far if i did! Just curious if "additional documents" and in review is common?

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                            Explain to the NYPD Psych unit that you are unable to obtain the documents they have requested. Further elaborate That you are in your 30s with a clean background and stable employment history. That all they would need to know.....

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                            • [QUOTE=CountyCorrectionOfficer;3758698]
                              Originally posted by rmpee View Post
                              I'm fully cheered. Ha. Just an experience. Thanks for the response

                              I have no problems jumping through hoops. Wouldn't have made it this far if i did! Just curious if "additional documents" and in review is common?

                              Sent from my LG-D801 using Tapatalk[/QUOTE


                              Explain to the NYPD Psych unit that you are unable to obtain the documents they have requested. Further elaborate That you are in your 30s with a clean background and stable employment history. That all they would need to know.....
                              Yep that's really all I can do. Just hope it's enough!

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