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  • Hello everyone.. Im a new member of the forum. In the process Im currently having my background check performed by AVU. Ive completed all of the steps prior successfully. Currently things are at a standstill :-( for I haven't heard from my investigator for 2 months. I understand the cuts and freezes taking place now but it seems like everyone else's process is moving along except for mine. Maybe because its the background it takes longer but its hard for me to even get in contact with my investigator to keep them updated. Im working out regularly and trying to stay hopeful that this hold will come to pass...Is anyone at this step too? or have any feed back. It would be greatly appreciated. Thank you

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    • Originally posted by MP1212 View Post
      Unblindeacon- Thanks. Not sure I passed. I was the only female in my group so it was hard to size myself up to anyone. I also messed up on the pull up trainer. It was last and I just couldn't do it. I'm hoping if I failed, I can retest but I don't think I have enough upper body strength for it. (Any females take the PAT? PM me so we can tell each other how we did on the parts!)

      I have the pysch scheduled for aug 9th if I passed. Not looking forward to trying to gather all the info for alllll my jobs. Gotta head down to ss and beg for a print out.
      Hey,

      You might have passed the physical exam. Remember, it is cumulative. You might have done bad on one part, but if you did well on the other parts it will help you as a whole to pass the physical. All you have to do is pay for you employment print out at the social security office.

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      • Originally posted by Court_Starz View Post
        Hello everyone.. Im a new member of the forum. In the process Im currently having my background check performed by AVU. Ive completed all of the steps prior successfully. Currently things are at a standstill :-( for I haven't heard from my investigator for 2 months. I understand the cuts and freezes taking place now but it seems like everyone else's process is moving along except for mine. Maybe because its the background it takes longer but its hard for me to even get in contact with my investigator to keep them updated. Im working out regularly and trying to stay hopeful that this hold will come to pass...Is anyone at this step too? or have any feed back. It would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
        Hey,

        Be very patient, the background investigation takes the longest in the hiring process. It took my investigator about a year to complete my background investigation.

        Where are you being processed, NYC or upstate?

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        • Originally posted by unblindeacon View Post
          Just keep going to appointments and pass the tests. I would suggest you take every other test that comes out too...including NYPD ( we have a lot of former Corrections & NYPD but only a few leave for NYPD)...I'm taking the SCPD test in two weeks lol. But I will say there are few other LEO jobs out there with a 35hr work week with limited nights & weekends...20 vacation days, 12 holidays, 5 ptp days, 12 sickdays your first year (plus OT & Comp), and a 43K starting salary (NYC Metro) plus $1250 yearly for uniform and 54k base after probation is up (current contract) A top tier NYS health benefit with vision & dental and I can't put a price tag on the value of being able make the kids baseball games and be there on christmas morning, New years, thanksgiving, memorial day, forth of july, etc. Hopefully I have given you some motivation, Keep the faith, Just a few days ago officer layoffs were set in stone and look how it turned out...Now some guys have been screwed by the process or the cancelled academy...thats a whole other story.
          Hey,

          What is top pay for a court officer and how many years does it take to reach top pay?

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          • I'd have to look at the contract to give you an exact number but its roughly 74k (including location) plus longevity payments after certain # of years...7 years to top after probation. The contract is expired so the numbers will go up before your reach top
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            • Originally posted by unblindeacon View Post
              I'd have to look at the contract to give you an exact number but its roughly 74k (including location) plus longevity payments after certain # of years...7 years to top after probation. The contract is expired so the numbers will go up before your reach top
              Okay, thanks. So court officers have to work about 9 years in order to reach top pay. That is a long time, but it is worth the wait. I am guessing that top pay is about $80,000 after including longevity and uniform pay.

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                • Originally posted by Cravan View Post
                  Okay, thanks. So court officers have to work about 9 years in order to reach top pay. That is a long time, but it is worth the wait. I am guessing that top pay is about $80,000 after including longevity and uniform pay.
                  That sounds about right. Of course when OT was plentiful 90k+ wasn't out of the question. They have cut down on OT substantially so hopefully that will help us at contract talks to get base pay increased...Yes 9yrs is a long time but there is also opportunites for promotion before you max (Sgt, LT, Clerk). Don't forget...if $ gets tight you can pretty much get any kinda of PT security gig easily.
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                  • Originally posted by Court_Starz View Post
                    Hello everyone.. Im a new member of the forum. In the process Im currently having my background check performed by AVU. Ive completed all of the steps prior successfully. Currently things are at a standstill :-( for I haven't heard from my investigator for 2 months. I understand the cuts and freezes taking place now but it seems like everyone else's process is moving along except for mine. Maybe because its the background it takes longer but its hard for me to even get in contact with my investigator to keep them updated. Im working out regularly and trying to stay hopeful that this hold will come to pass...Is anyone at this step too? or have any feed back. It would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
                    The process take a long time. It took me 5 years from test to hire and I scored fairly well. I think the length of the process is one way they weed people out. Plus the economy is in the gutter so that doesn't help things at all. The background investigation is very thorough and will take the longest and

                    PRACTICE PUSHUPS! lol
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                    • Still lurking every now and then for any good news for all the peeps who's unemployed like me because of the postponement of the Jan. 6 class. I guess we will be in the long haul for this one. Thanks for all the inside scoop from all the active CO here. I'm still optimistic that OCA will call us back before my UI checks ran out in Feb. 2012 ( wishful thinking) Well, I hope everyone here had a wonderful Memorial Day weekend.
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                      • Originally posted by jontot View Post
                        Still lurking every now and then for any good news for all the peeps who's unemployed like me because of the postponement of the Jan. 6 class. I guess we will be in the long haul for this one. Thanks for all the inside scoop from all the active CO here. I'm still optimistic that OCA will call us back before my UI checks ran out in Feb. 2012 ( wishful thinking) Well, I hope everyone here had a wonderful Memorial Day weekend.
                        Hey,

                        I am also unemployed because of the Jan. 6 class postponement. I encourage you to start sending out resumes as soon as possible because it could take up to a year to obtain employment.

                        I was told that if you filed your unemployment claim buy 2/7/11, you can get up to 60 weeks of unemployment. Go on the Dept. of Labor's website and answer the questions on the benefits calculator. The calculator will determine the amount of weeks you are eligible for UI. My UI ends on April 1, 2012.

                        In the mean time, I am sending out resumes and finishing my Master's degree. OCA stated in the last letter they gave us, they do not anticipate another recruit class this fiscal year, which ends April 1, 2012.

                        Get a job before your UI benefits run out, you do not want to have no cash flow. Who knows how long it will take OCA to have another recruit class.

                        We are in somewhat of a good situation, because we are first up to get hired and we do not have to worry about our eligibility getting expired. We could of gotten laid off right after the academy.

                        Stay in shape and out of trouble.
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                        • Hi guys,

                          Is there anyone on here that failed the aerobic step test the first time but went on to pass it the second time? PM me.

                          Does anyone have any general tips on how to prepare for that portion of the test? I'm assuming a lot of cardio would help.

                          Thanks.

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                          • Originally posted by KAYNYC View Post
                            Hi guys,

                            Is there anyone on here that failed the aerobic step test the first time but went on to pass it the second time? PM me.

                            Does anyone have any general tips on how to prepare for that portion of the test? I'm assuming a lot of cardio would help.

                            Thanks.
                            You answered your own question. STAY IN SHAPE!!!

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                            • 'Painful But Unavoidable:' Courts Trim Jobs
                              Leaving 367 Positions Vacant Will Make Delays Inevitable, Administrators Say


                              Joel Stashenko ContactAll Articles

                              New York Law Journal

                              May 19, 2011

                              Cutbacks announced yesterday by the Judiciary may mean longer waiting lines for entering courts, like the one at 100 Centre St. in Manhattan yesterday morning.

                              Cutbacks announced yesterday by the Judiciary may mean longer waiting lines for entering courts, like the one at 100 Centre St. in Manhattan yesterday morning.
                              NYLJ Photo/Rick Kopstein

                              ALBANY - New York court administrators laid off 367 nonjudicial employees yesterday to comply with state budget cuts ordered by Governor Andrew M. Cuomo and the state Legislature.

                              Starting June 1, the positions of that many court clerks and assistants, court officers of all ranks, analysts, librarians, aides, stenographers, family counseling case analysts, court reporters and attorneys and other support staff will be vacated. And the bulk of the jobs will remain empty as the Judiciary grapples with a $170 million cut in its $2.7 billion budget.

                              Of the cuts announced yesterday, 343 were in the state's numerous trial courts and 24 in the appellate courts. They are in addition to 74 positions eliminated at the Office of Court Administration earlier this month.

                              See the workforce reduction plan, with specific job titles, for the appellate and trial courts.

                              The new layoffs represent 2.4 percent of the courts' 15,326 employees. But 1,928 law clerks, confidential secretaries and other personnel who work directly for individual judges were exempt from the cuts, meaning that 2.7 percent of the remaining workers lost their jobs.

                              Administrators also are eliminating the jobs of 67 full- and part-time court attendants, contract employees who provide security services in the upstate Third, Fourth, Sixth and Eighth Judicial districts.

                              In addition to the lost positions, the new cutbacks will set off a round of "bumping" and reassignments as hundreds of workers in targeted positions replace those with less seniority in other jobs and courts.

                              New York's far-flung courts handle 4.6 million new filings each year, ranging from parking tickets to murder charges. Chief Judge Jonathan Lippman, Chief Administrative Judge Ann Pfau and other officials have suggested that the cuts no doubt will mean delays in court functions such as arraignments, obtaining court orders and trials.

                              "The most urgent matters, such as issuing orders of protection and things like that, they will be as unaffected as possible," Judge Pfau said in an interview. "But delays are inevitable. We are going to monitor this constantly to see what is happening as far as things are getting out. We will be watching this on a day-by-day basis to make adjustments along the way. But these are real people who did their jobs very professionally and they will not be there to do their jobs anymore."

                              The impact will be all the greater because the courts are still digesting the departure last November of some 1,550 in an early retirement incentive program. Administrators had planned to fill more than half of those vacancies, but froze hiring earlier this year before the process was complete as the budget outlook darkened in Albany.

                              "New York's position as a global financial center is put at risk if we don't sufficiently fund our court system," said Robert Giuffra Jr. a partner at Sullivan & Cromwell.

                              Steven R. Schlesinger of Jaspan Schlesinger in Garden City, who is in the courts at least four days a week, said the layoffs are "a major topic of discussion" among attorneys. "Everyone is nervous about the layoffs," he said.

                              Noting he has a Delaware office and 10 to 15 percent of his cases involve clients with Delaware-based incorporations, Mr. Schlesinger said that he might decide to take future cases to Delaware if matters in New York take longer to resolve.

                              With large sums hanging in the balance, with a case possibly taking three to four years in New York versus a year in Delaware, "it may be malpractice for me to file in New York," he said.

                              According to administrators, with the layoffs, the courts will have 1,151 fewer workers than they did in August 2010.

                              Lou Guariello, a clerk in the commercial division of the courts in Manhattan, said the mood was somber yesterday before employees learned who would lose their jobs.

                              "People are kind of quiet, waiting for what's going to come down," he said in an interview. "It's that kind of a day."

                              "It was highly emotional today," an employee of the Nassau County Surrogate's Court agreed in an interview. "You heard of people's mortgages, tuition and fear of the future, and how they truly enjoy working for the court system."

                              Sally Donahue, a court-attorney referee in the Nassau Surrogate's Court, is losing the job she has held for 4 1/2 years. She said the loss of two of her unit's six positions would mean more work for an already overloaded staff.

                              "They're really ripping into this law department," she said.

                              Judge Lippman said in a statement that the cuts are "painful but unavoidable."

                              "After four decades in the courts, I very much view our employees as part of a court system family that is close-knit and supportive of each other in every conceivable way," he said. "My heart goes out to every one of the valued employees and their own families who will be experiencing real hardship and pain as a result of today's layoffs. I know that all judges and court personnel share my feelings, but I also know that we will all continue to do everything in our power to fulfill our constitutional responsibilities and to provide the highest quality of service to the public."

                              He concluded, "The doors of our courts will remain open and accessible to all. I am confident that we will overcome the difficult challenges that lie ahead of us and emerge from this trying period stronger than ever."

                              Read Judge Lippman's full statement.

                              In designing the cuts, officials said they took into account existing vacancies and stresses in particular courts and regions around the state. The impact of cutbacks on attorneys, litigants and the public are likely to vary from court to court.

                              For example, Nassau County will sustain a net loss of 30 jobs, but neighboring Suffolk County will lose only 13.

                              Suffolk courts, which now have about 1,000 employees, were already "hit hard" by last year's early retirement program, said Administrative Judge C. Randall Hinrichs. The county lost about 135 employees to retirement and already had 100 vacancies before the new cutbacks.

                              Judge Hinrichs said the latest cuts had been a "difficult process," adding that "all the people we're losing are very good people, outstanding people. …Our intention going forward is to do everything possible to fulfill our obligations and make the courts work as efficiently as possible under the circumstances going forward."

                              Nassau Administrative Judge Anthony Marano said in a statement that he was "deeply saddened" by the layoffs and warned that "longer wait times in the adjudication of certain matters may become a reality."

                              In the appellate courts, 10 of the 24 job losses are in the Appellate Division, First Department. Last December, the department filled 44 of the 46 positions left vacant by early retirements.

                              As a result, the department needed a year-end cash infusion from the Second Department, which had filled fewer of its vacancies (NYLJ, April 13). The Second Department is losing six positions in the current round of cuts.

                              'Horrible Domino Effect'

                              Although the ultimate effect of the coming layoffs on the general public remains unclear, it is certain that 367 more people will lose their jobs. However, many of those laid off will not be the same employees who now hold the jobs being left vacant.

                              Under union contracts and Civil Service rules, employees facing layoffs often have the right to bump workers with less seniority. Officials estimate that 241 workers will be reassigned to other jobs and/or to other courts at lower pay as a result of the cutbacks.

                              One clerk at 60 Centre St. in Manhattan said that many of his colleagues had been "rolled back to their prior positions" such as secretary, data entry clerk and court analyst.

                              "The clerks are the backbone of the system," he said.

                              Marc Ialenti of Ialenti & Macari in Mineola noted that the processing of court matters has slowed in Nassau County since the beginning of the year, and the reassignment of more court personnel to unfamiliar positions would only exacerbate the problem, and feed client frustrations.

                              "It's a horrible domino effect," he said.

                              Judges Lippman and Pfau have said that the Judiciary would work with the system's 11 unions, all of which are now working without a contract, to find cost savings that could allow the rehiring of laid off workers at a future date.

                              Administrators have been working for months to cut overtime and non-personnel expenses. For example, they have suspended funding for virtually all judicial hearing officers; put on hold improvements to town and village courts; trimmed the sessions of small claims courts; halved the money appropriated to provide civil legal services for the indigent; stopped buying lunches for jurors; and decreed that court sessions must end by 4:30 p.m. each day.

                              But none of the economies recovered enough to reach the bottom line mandated by Mr. Cuomo and the Legislature in a budget that is dominated by personnel costs.

                              Employees losing their positions, in general, will qualify for 46 weeks of unemployment insurance payments and also unused vacation and sick time. They will also gain priority status on a list of dismissed workers to be rehired within the next two years, if the courts can afford to.

                              The last time court employees faced layoffs was in late 1991 and early 1992. About 500 workers lost their jobs in a budget dispute between then-chief judge Sol Wachtler and former governor Mario M. Cuomo, Andrew Cuomo's father. However, the cuts were quickly rescinded after the executive and the judicial branch settled their differences.

                              With state finances in disarray, a quick reversal in this year's cuts is unlikely. In fact, they may force fundamental changes in the way the courts do business.

                              "This appears to be a permanent downsizing," said Judge Pfau.

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                              • @ Cravan...I Am being processed for NYC. And thank you everyone else for your input.. Im doing the insanity workouts to stay in shape haha!. But push ups are my biggest challenge. Anyone know the best way to build and maintain upper body strength..
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