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    Hi everyone, recently the N.Y.P.D. has begun releasing "WHITE VEHICLES" to school safety and traffic. However many police officers believe that we as school safety and the traffic agents should be going to our respective unions and protest this. A police officer came up to one of my guys and told him to go to the union and see if this is even allowed, he also stated that school safety should not be driving around in a "POLICE" vehicle. His reason was we will get shot at. Now the last time I checked N.Y. wasn't the wild wild west, I haven't heard of too many PO'S being shot at just because the are "THE POLICE". And I know quite a few of them and they have all said the chance of a PO being shot at for NO reason is slim. I WANT TO KNOW THE REAL REASON WHY "COPS" don't want us in these vehicles. Is it because they feel that we are moving in on their territory? Is it because they feel only armed officers should be put in these vehicles? Is it a genuine concern for our safety?
    ....I would rather be judged by 12, than carried by 6...

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    Does a garbage man drive around in a "FIRE" vehicle?

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    • #3
      "garbage man and fire?" grow up man. It is done for omni-presence. Painting all of the NYPD vehicles to resemble RMP's is another idea some brass had to tackle reducing crime by making it seem that there is more uniform presence out there. Also, white is a cheaper color to paint a RMP than dark blue colors. So it is cost-efficent as well. School safety and traffic are all part of the NYPD, so i dont see there being a problem with them having white vehicles. It is really not that big of a deal, and EX SUNY FM made no sense by writing that.

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      • #4
        You may work for the NYPD but you're not a police officer. Would you allow an NYPD dispatcher to wear a jacket that says "Police" on it (like a raid jacket)? Not even court officers drive cars that say "Police," they say "NY Courts."

        I've read on another site that the NYPD is allowing school safety officers to drive cars with police markings to make it seem as though there are more cops on the street. I find that to be quite believable.
        I’ll die with blue in my veins.

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        • #5
          Actually SSD, in the 101 Precinct the other night a level 3 Mobilization was called because an RMP was shot at with MOS in it for simply being a white RMP. I don't believe anybody was hurt thankfully.

          The reason for doing it IS to make it seem like more police and NYPD are around, when they aren't. I don't really agree with it either.
          Last edited by LINY; 09-30-2009, 06:19 PM.

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          • #6
            I agree that the white cars are probably more cost effective, this is the reason why they switched from the light blue scheme in 1996 (or 97?). New Rochelle Police actually just switched from their Light Blue color scheme for cost effectiveness as well. I do agree that they should be at least marked differently though. I say get rid of the NYPD that is so distinctive of Police Officers.

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            • #7
              i agree with exsunyfm, marked cop cars are for cops.

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              • #8
                Yes the white is cost effective, and no they do not have police markings they say clearly and in big blue letters, SCHOOL SAFETY or NYPD TRAFFIC. trust me we all know we are not police officers nor are we equipped as well as them to handle certain situations, but just the fact that driving these vehicles is striking hatred even more now with the PO's and us, it's amazing. a PO friend of mine actually stated that he would rather see SS in these vehicles than TRAFFIC, for the simple reason that he has seen us in action and knows if we call something over we have both SSD and our uniform Task Force. Now me personally you could me an orange patrol car with green stripes on the side i wouldn't care as long as i go home safe.
                suny-you make no sense with that absurd comment
                ....I would rather be judged by 12, than carried by 6...

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                • #9
                  EnWhyPeeDee said it exactly how it is in the other thread. Wait for one of those cars getting flagged down to an Assault in progress to see they're a bunch of old School Safety Agents. I wouldn't want a UPS man driving a pizza truck to deliver stuff.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by MaxPower View Post
                    i agree with exsunyfm, marked cop cars are for cops.
                    Where on these cars does it say "POLICE". no where but the exact same emblem we wear on our shirts and the same emblem that was on the black car.

                    Define "COPS" please
                    ....I would rather be judged by 12, than carried by 6...

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by LINY View Post
                      EnWhyPeeDee said it exactly how it is in the other thread. Wait for one of those cars getting flagged down to an Assault in progress to see they're a bunch of old School Safety Agents. I wouldn't want a UPS man driving a pizza truck to deliver stuff.
                      as a matter of fact i did get flagged down in the "BLACK" car with regards to an assault and i took that collar while the pct tried to take it away as well as taking a machete off of someone and robberies. still no one answers the question
                      ....I would rather be judged by 12, than carried by 6...

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by SSD1084 View Post
                        Define "COPS" please
                        Someone who has passed POST training and is authorized to make warrantless arrests based on information from other witnesses even if the Officer themselves did not see the crime.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by LINY View Post
                          Someone who has passed POST training and is authorized to make warrantless arrests based on information from other witnesses even if the Officer themselves did not see the crime.

                          You have just defined School Safety my friend.
                          ....I would rather be judged by 12, than carried by 6...

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                          • #14
                            Wow. Such angst. Don't be haters.
                            Free Deke O'Mally!!!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by District B 13 View Post
                              Wow. Such angst. Don't be haters.
                              EXACTLY, Some fear change.
                              ....I would rather be judged by 12, than carried by 6...

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