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    Hello Everyone,

    Due to reasons beyond my control, I may be looking at the possibility of relocating to Minnesota in the next year or two. I'm currently a Trooper in a large, full service department where I have primarily worked urban areas for the last 6 years. I'm trying to do some research into departments where I may be able to apply in the future. The problem is I have very little knowledge on Minnesota and the Police Departments that operate in the State. My opportunities to come over and check out the area are slim. Besides what I can find through the various department websites and Google, I am hoping to get some information on some of the larger departments that are in your guy's state.

    I've tried to research St. Paul / Minneapolis, Rochester, Duluth, and some various County Sheriffs. Can anyone help me out providing some insight on some of the larger departments as in work environment, training, the good and bad, with anything else you guy's feel important to relay to a out of town cop looking to move into the area, or if there are any area's I haven't listed that I should keep in mind.

    I appreciate any help provided, I understand that Law Enforcement Jobs are extremely competitive right now, I'm just trying to get some information to make a actual informed if it does come down to me applying around the State.

    Thanks.

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    Information On MN Departments

    A guy I used to work with was an Alaska Trooper before becoming a cop here in Minnesota. I suspect that you have already looked at the MN POST Board, so you are up to speed on lateral testing. Do you have an interest in joining the Minnesota State Patrol or are avoiding them since they are primarily a traffic law enforcement agency?

    As you pointed out, you will be somewhat limited by the fact that you are not here yet. There are a few different schools of thought on this. One, is that because there are so many applicants applying for so few jobs, apply everywhere just to get working. Then, once you are here, start working on whether you want to stay where you first land or move.

    Think ahead of time what you might be interested in after you get a sworn job. Does canine interest you? Do you eventually want to work investigations? Do you like the variety of a sheriff's office more than a police department?

    Do you have a family and need health insurance and other benefits right away. Will you need to buy a house right away or can you get buy living in an apartment for a while?

    If, for example, you decided that you would really like to be a deputy sheriff in the metro area, it is possible that you could apply and get an unlicensed correctional deputy/officer job quicker than you can a sworn job. If you decide to go that route, and get on in the jail of the county you want to go sworn at, your prior sworn experience and jail experience at that county might put you in a pretty good position.

    However, that is certainly no guarantee either. Do you have prior armed forces experience? If so, that would help you get on with something like VA Hospital Police. Anyway, if you give some additional details of what you are looking for we can provide some additional information.

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    • #3
      Thanks for the reply Jim,

      I looked at the State Police but to be honest, doing mostly traffic and accidents all day is not ideal for what I like to do. Do to my timeline I have some time to wait for openings if I find somewhere I'm particularly interested in. I prefer working in urban areas and have experience in rural environments as well. I do not have a big preference what kind of area to work as long as there is a varied / decent to busy call volume. My timeline allows me to wait for an opening if I find somewhere I would really like to work. I imagine the work in the mid-west cannot be much different from where I am now. My biggest concern is just going to a larger dept. where the officers are generally happy, the supervisors are competent, they get good training and equipment, and the work is exciting. (I know that's asking for a lot).

      My first job as a cop was at a small department which looked amazing on the recruiting website, but after starting, it was immediately apparent the cops hated their jobs, the brass micro-managed to an extent it was unbearable, and it was just a bad environment in general. If hoping to avoid the same thing when it comes time to change departments again.

      Swat, K9, Investigations would always be nice to think about in the future which is why I'm leaning towards a larger city / sheriff department. Obviously I would prefer to go strait into patrol if I went to a sheriff, I get tired of the jails just doing booking...I couldn't imagine working all day in there (no offense to any correctional officers)
      Last edited by Oakgate; 11-06-2014, 09:05 PM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Jim1648 View Post
        A guy I used to work with was an Alaska Trooper before becoming a cop here in Minnesota. I suspect that you have already looked at the MN POST Board, so you are up to speed on lateral testing. Do you have an interest in joining the Minnesota State Patrol or are avoiding them since they are primarily a traffic law enforcement agency? .
        There are more opportunities then just working traffic in the State Patrol. Aviation Section, Capitol Security, Canine Unit, Crash Reconstruction Specialist, Metro Crash Team, Drug Recognition Evaluator, Public Information Trooper, Special Response Team, Vehicle Crimes Unit, Rapid Response Team, etc Etc.

        And if you're out-state you will assist the county and pd's quite often.
        Last edited by Glock31; 11-07-2014, 02:30 AM.

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        • #5
          Your question is very, very broad. There are hundreds of LE agencies here. Very few of them will have what most would consider a busy call load. Here there are not many big cities. A city with 60,000 people can be considered big here.

          Here are some cities to look at that are metro area and would be "decent" for call load:

          St. Paul
          Brooklyn Center
          Brooklyn Park
          Burnsville
          Bloomington
          Eagan
          West St. Paul
          South St. Paul
          Maplewood

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          • #6
            Information On MN Departments

            Minneapolis Police didn't make the short list?

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            • #7
              Thanks for the info guys,

              I know its a broad question but it is a starting point for me to start figuring out what areas I should start looking at.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Jim1648 View Post
                Minneapolis Police didn't make the short list?
                Nope, couldn't give an out of towner a bum steer! Minneapolis is the busiest, but you will be wearing a body camera and your elected leaders are so liberal and screwy and pander to the worst elements that I could not in good faith suggest it.

                For example, a violent felon ran from the cops and broke into a home. When the cops found him, he wrestled a semi auto long gun away and SHOT two officers. An officer returned fire and killed the man. A substantial portion of that community believes the police shot themselves to cover up murdering the guy in cold blood. Protests ensued. Activists are pandered to.

                The mayor wears a hijab when meeting with Muslims. She is married to a former Black Panther. Here she is cavorting with a felon and throwing a possible gang sign. The cops can do no right over there. That doesn't mean there aren't a ton of top notch cops there, but they get no support and police a community that, by and large, hates them and what they represent.

                http://kstp.com/news/stories/S3612199.shtml?cat=1

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Long Relief View Post
                  Nope, couldn't give an out of towner a bum steer! Minneapolis is the busiest, but you will be wearing a body camera and your elected leaders are so liberal and screwy and pander to the worst elements that I could not in good faith suggest it.

                  For example, a violent felon ran from the cops and broke into a home. When the cops found him, he wrestled a semi auto long gun away and SHOT two officers. An officer returned fire and killed the man. A substantial portion of that community believes the police shot themselves to cover up murdering the guy in cold blood. Protests ensued. Activists are pandered to.

                  The mayor wears a hijab when meeting with Muslims. She is married to a former Black Panther. Here she is cavorting with a felon and throwing a possible gang sign. The cops can do no right over there. That doesn't mean there aren't a ton of top notch cops there, but they get no support and police a community that, by and large, hates them and what they represent.

                  http://kstp.com/news/stories/S3612199.shtml?cat=1
                  It's not long until everyone is wearing a body camera...
                  In Valor there is hope

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                  • #10
                    MPLS Parks just opened for cadets again.

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                    • #11
                      Oakgate,

                      The Interstate 494/694 loop encircles both Minneapolis and St Paul. Any agency that is inside that ring on a map will be busy as well as most agencies just outside the ring, referred to here as 1st or 2nd ring suburbs.

                      Here in Minnesota, anywhere in the 7 county Metro area sheriff departments have little patrol function. Unless you would like to do your penance in jail/courts, I would steer you away from sheriff departments.

                      Many of the agencies in the 494/694 loop have canines, SWAT, detectives, special units, etc.
                      "In Valor There Is Hope" - Tacitus

                      "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm" - George Orwell

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by SCSU74 View Post
                        It's not long until everyone is wearing a body camera...
                        ^ This. There are more agencies than most people know about. LongRelief, you listed Burnsville on your list. They were one of the first in the state with the Taser Axon camera system. Take a look at the video of Brian Luchsinger and Brad Litke tasering a guy in the BPD lobby.

                        My last agency was forced to purchase squad cameras after pressure from the ACLU due to them believing we were stopping too many minorities for our jurisdiction. I worked in a very affluent suburb too, so it's not just the major cities that get this kind of attention. It's only a matter of time before a majority of agencies are equipped with body cams. I think I can safely predict that ~80% of metro agencies will have body cams within 10 years.
                        "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence."
                        -John Adams


                        Disclaimer: My statements are personal opinions, and in no way reflect those of my agency.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Reedo View Post
                          ^ This. There are more agencies than most people know about. LongRelief, you listed Burnsville on your list. They were one of the first in the state with the Taser Axon camera system. Take a look at the video of Brian Luchsinger and Brad Litke tasering a guy in the BPD lobby.

                          My last agency was forced to purchase squad cameras after pressure from the ACLU due to them believing we were stopping too many minorities for our jurisdiction. I worked in a very affluent suburb too, so it's not just the major cities that get this kind of attention. It's only a matter of time before a majority of agencies are equipped with body cams. I think I can safely predict that ~80% of metro agencies will have body cams within 10 years.
                          I have seen that BPD video numerous times. I tip my hats to the guys in LE now. It just seems like a such a different gig than it was even just 20 years ago. I have no doubt that most agencies will have body cams.

                          I wonder if Mayor Hodges driver/police officer will wear one so people can file FOIA requests to see just what she is up to?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Topace44 View Post

                              Here in Minnesota, anywhere in the 7 county Metro area sheriff departments have little patrol function. Unless you would like to do your penance in jail/courts, I would steer you away from sheriff departments.
                              Not true.... Carver, Scott, Dakota, Washington and Anoka have decent sized patrol units. Also, if you apply for a sworn position at these office's, you'll be told if you are going to patrol or a different division.

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