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    Anyone have any Idea why that Coach was charged in the Heat Stroke case of that poor kid during football training camp? Shouldn't that be a civil case of all things? Where is the negligence? Millions of kids have been conducting two, sometimes three a day August month football training throughout this nation, not only present day but as a tradition throughout time. I know because I dealt with the heat also playing football from pee wee althrough my life up to a year in College. Many have died throughout history. It is a tragedy. The only solution I see is to change football season completely from October til March. Anyone from Kentucky please post your comments.
    "Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. The MARINES don't have that problem." ....Ronald Reagan

  • #2
    Why do kids need to practice that hard that often?

    What exactly is won by sacrificing kids to the almighty desire to win a football game? They aren't even PAID to play

    Or perhaps football is more important to you than a child's life. Do you have children? How would you feel if this happened to YOURS?

    And this isn't just a Kentucky issue.

    I hope the parents win a huge settlement as that will likely cause school districts to set limits on the amount of practice allowed under such circumstances. Apparently they DO need such a "nanny" law because they are too stupid to do it without financial incentive.

    For those who care to know more details, here's a link.
    Last edited by rubyrose; 09-08-2009, 09:29 AM.
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    • #3
      Like I said, Im all too familar with working hard during the hot months in both High School and College football. Where I was raised the humidity was double that where this poor kid died and we also had deaths. There are every year. But it does not make it a criminal matter. It's a civil case, and a poor one at that. Putting on all those pads is something you have to get used to so you don't collapse in a game. I have two kids. One of which also played High School football and also had three a days during the hot August months. What happened is a tradgedy but not criminal. Physicals are required prior to even putting a helment on. Water breaks are given between drills. Sometimes though it is not enough. All I can say is I was in Paris Island during the months of July and August in Marine Corps bootcamp and though it was hard sometimes it didn't compare with the torture of 2 a days during Varsity football practice.
      Your idea to force school districts to set limits on the amount of practice allowed is wrong because it sets these kids up for failure. Football is a great sport and one that more than any other sport demands team work and dedication and blood sweat and tears. I would rather risk the occasional tragedy knowing in doing so that the lessons in this game were making real men of dedication and character gained through hard team work than a nation of men who quit when it's just "too hot" so I'll just give up or I'll call a lawyer to sue. The only solution is to change the season and that will never happen, so like always has been the case, you train carefully with better screening and plenty of water and move more practices to night time.
      As for the students doing it for free there is way more gained being part of a Varsity Football team than just money.
      Im sure some think a lawsuit is the answer for everything but it will hurt the tradition of this great game and that is bigger than any one person to include you and I both. This Coach will walk from this criminal charge hopefully.
      Last edited by Nightshift va; 09-08-2009, 10:31 AM.
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      • #4
        snap up that chin strap

        Originally posted by rubyrose View Post
        Why do kids need to practice that hard that often?

        What exactly is won by sacrificing kids to the almighty desire to win a football game? They aren't even PAID to play (Millions of Kids do not die from this great game who go through the same conditioning. Giving a kid a drivers license is way more dangerous than letting them play football. So we ban that also? Whats next?

        Or perhaps football is more important to you than a child's life. Do you have children? How would you feel if this happened to YOURS? (Scrapping a tradition because of a tragedy? Not reasonable at all. Yes I have children, and Yes I'm proud that my Son learned about sacrafice and team work, it will make him a better man when he faces obstacles in his life that are hard)

        And this isn't just a Kentucky issue. (No you are right. Football is in every great state, thank god.)

        I hope the parents win a huge settlement as that will likely cause school districts to set limits on the amount of practice allowed under such circumstances. Apparently they DO need such a "nanny" law because they are too stupid to do it without financial incentive. ( You hope a lawsuit destroys an American Tradition? I'm sure many disagree, even in the Empire state inwhich you live.)

        For those who care to know more details, here's a link.
        My final comment on this subject. Football opened up many doors and helped me in many ways even as a Police Officer. It is the best sport in America. It is sad when children die and I feel for the families left with thiis tragedy. However it is a tough sport requires tough conditioning both in the weight room and on the grid Iron in the hottest of times with full pads on in uncomfortable gear. I hobble around today a semi-casualty today with arthritic knees and ankles due to several surgeries from injuries and pains associated with this game. When I was in College i hit someone so hard i was temporairly paralyzed from my mid-down for almost two hours. My fingers are mangled from being broken and twisted and ripped from playing this game. This game made its impact on my body but I would not trade a second of my life to have never played it. The impact it made on my heart and soul is greater felt than any limp I feel to this day. Many who have been part of it, know and understand. Those who never strapped on a chin strap will never understand.
        Last edited by Nightshift va; 09-08-2009, 11:04 AM.
        "Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. The MARINES don't have that problem." ....Ronald Reagan

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        • #5
          Why was he charged? The only thing I can think of is that the Commonwealth Attorney was hoping to make a name for himself. Coach Stinson was found not guilty on both charges. It is a tragedy that Max Gilpin died, but it was not due to criminal conduct by the coach. We have had many discussions about this at work, we all agree that it was a witch hunt, and that he was trying to make national news and a name for himself. Luckily he lost the case. I work with a few guys that played for this coach, and they have all said that he was a really good coach, and that he never denied the water or anything like that. I'm glad he was aquitted.

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          • #6
            All criminal charges were dismissed.
            Good day for High School football.
            now the civil circus will start up.
            "Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. The MARINES don't have that problem." ....Ronald Reagan

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