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    What color lights are private security companies allowed to use? What lights would they be able to use if under the direction of a police officer (a situation of the chief being a police officer but his employees, security officers, acting under his direction)?
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    That is a pretty good question. When I worked hospital security, as a hospital employee, we had red lights. When I worked contract hospital security, we had yellow lights.
    When I worked college campus security, we had blue and red lights, although we were not police officers. However, since I have left college security, they took the blue away, and have strictly red lights now...
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    • #3
      It's been a while since i have read the laws on emergency lights but i believe if you are strictly patroling private property you can have any color you want but if you are on city streets you can't activate red/blue lights.
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      • #4
        do you know where in the IC they would be mentioned? i've only been able to find what what a fire truck and an ambulance can use and the use of the green lights.

        i've also found it confusing that they blur the lines between public emergency persons and those working for private companies employed as "first responders." In some cases it seems ok for security to have them if they are employed in that manner and then there's the mention of "under the direction of a police officer."
        Last edited by AuxiTrooper; 08-03-2008, 01:09 PM. Reason: Additional info
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        • #5
          IC 9-19-14-5
          Police vehicles used as emergency vehicles

          IC 9-19-14-5.5
          Red and white lamps; red and blue lamps

          IC 9-19-14.5
          Special Equipment for Private Emergency Vehicles

          IC 36-8-12-11
          Blue lights on private vehicles; authorization; violations

          IC 9-21-13-4
          Lead and escort vehicles; flashing lights; restrictions on use

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          • #6
            And I quote,
            " the statute on permissible lights other that emergency vehicles does not permit the use of white or clear lights. You may use flashing amber to the front and flashing red to the rear"
            From ISP Wed July 16 2008.

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            • #7
              I just don't understand how I work for a place that uses red and blues on our truck. We don't do traffic stops or anything on public streets but they do get activated on public streets in the event of some sort of emergency adjacent to the campus and/or involving students/employees in an effort to warn traffic and to allow police/fire/ems to locate us. There is nothing in our SOP that states "don't use on a public street" and I would think it should be mentioned since we aren't police and have no authority once you hit the sidewalk.

              The only thing I'm not clear on is what qualifies as an emergency vehicle. Obiously an ambulance, fire truck, and similar vehicles do, and I understand that enroute to the station or scene in your vehicle allows you certain lights if you are some sort of medic or fireman; does a security officer who is NOT allowed to use these on the company vehicle? What if security are EMTs and therefore first responders, is this acceptable?
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              • #8
                Originally posted by AuxiTrooper View Post
                I just don't understand how I work for a place that uses red and blues on our truck. We don't do traffic stops or anything on public streets but they do get activated on public streets in the event of some sort of emergency adjacent to the campus and/or involving students/employees in an effort to warn traffic and to allow police/fire/ems to locate us.
                That annoys me- there is NO need to have R/B on private cars, as they are not deemed "emergency vehicles". There are designated agencies and units to respond to them, and that is not provate security, no matter who you are or how whackerish you want to be.

                I suspect the company or persons who work for the company have placed R/B on the car out of "Wannabe" status, not to be activated so REAL PD or FD, etc can "help locate you". I have no problems finding amber lighting on tow trucks when trying to find something to respond to. In fact, that isn't even a valid argument because if you look at lighting studies, amber has the best, brightest, and best eye-mind connection for "caution", so really, amber is all you need for what you do.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by OffDuty View Post
                  I'd cite ya.
                  So why hasn't somebody done that already?
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by AuxiTrooper View Post
                    What color lights are private security companies allowed to use? What lights would they be able to use if under the direction of a police officer (a situation of the chief being a police officer but his employees, security officers, acting under his direction)?
                    I have seen amber and green on security vehicles and that's it..

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by OffDuty View Post
                      I'd cite ya.
                      Just curious.....would you cite the actual security officer or the company he/she works for.....?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Bearcat357 View Post
                        Just curious.....would you cite the actual security officer or the company he/she works for.....?
                        It would be a stretch, but you could obviously cite the driver of the vehicle and then cite the company head for permitting the violation.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by towncop View Post
                          It would be a stretch, but you could obviously cite the driver of the vehicle and then cite the company head for permitting the violation.
                          I'd hate to cite some poor schmuck that is making 8 bucks an hour and was ordered by his company management to use red/blue overheads if they were assisting with somthing while awaiting a LEO......

                          That's just me....as I'd rather go break it off in the company's rear....as they should know the law before outfiting their vehicles.....

                          Now, if it's a private vehicle....game on....

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                          • #14
                            Is there an IC code that allows private hospital security red lights?
                            Are they an "authorized emergency vehicle?"

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Bearcat357 View Post
                              I'd hate to cite some poor schmuck that is making 8 bucks an hour and was ordered by his company management to use red/blue overheads if they were assisting with somthing while awaiting a LEO......

                              That's just me....as I'd rather go break it off in the company's rear....as they should know the law before outfiting their vehicles.....

                              Now, if it's a private vehicle....game on....
                              Exactly. I'm not a crazy person that tries to make is 93 crap green camry look like some kind of police car or emergency response unit. I also don't think that something I am told to drive on public roads is my fault. Getting a ticket for speed is one thing but getting screwed because I work for idiots is another.

                              Also, we don't have a full bar, we only have dashlights.
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