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    I was hoping someone might be willing to provide a little advice or guidance. I have a opportunity to start the IMPD academy Oct. 29th, but I was notified by the Fishers PD of their interest and they are currently conducting the background investigation. However, I will not have a conditional offer from Fishers before the start of the IMPD academy. Personally I like the Fishers PD and would like to join the team, but I don't want to close any doors since Fishers is not a sure thing. Can anyone provide any insight on either department so to help make my decision?

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    Originally posted by duke76 View Post
    I was hoping someone might be willing to provide a little advice or guidance. I have a opportunity to start the IMPD academy Oct. 29th, but I was notified by the Fishers PD of their interest and they are currently conducting the background investigation. However, I will not have a conditional offer from Fishers before the start of the IMPD academy. Personally I like the Fishers PD and would like to join the team, but I don't want to close any doors since Fishers is not a sure thing. Can anyone provide any insight on either department so to help make my decision?
    Hey Duke,
    I think your decision is going to be made on the basis of what kind of police officer you want to be. But first, let’s look at the Pro's and Con's of both departments. Having been on Indianapolis and having worked very closely with Fishers during my time at a Hamilton County Department, I have a pretty good understanding of both.
    Pros of Fishers is going to be obviously equipment, FPD will pay for just about everything from uniform to paid workout times, and everything in between. Your cruiser will be pretty new except for a few exceptions I think the guys are all driving 03's or newer. The crime rate is obviously much much much lower than your average IMPD district, which can be a pro or a con depending on what kind of police work you’re interested in. Obviously with the more affluent citizens your calls for service are going to be very annoying at times (lock outs, wanting the police b/c the complaint ant saw a black person, don’t laugh it happens a lot in fishers, lots of alarm runs, since everyone in fishers has an alrm system and they seem to be very careless about accidentally setting it off. ) And you have to remember Fishers is still a very much growing department, in the early 90's they had something of 4 or so officers and now they have almost 100. With that said, the department has experienced your average growing pains. Surprisingly enough they are paid less than IMPD, but many people will argue an IMPD officer has a much more stressful and dangerous day than a Fishers Officer.
    As far as IMPD goes, I’m sure you’re well aware of the merger of IPD and the Law Enforcement Division of the MCSD. With that said the moral is very low, this new department has had a lot of problems that are still being worked out and in some cases not worked out. My best friend has been on since 96 and he is driving a 2001 with 145,000 miles....so don’t be expecting new nice equipment from them, you will be provided with the basics and that’s it. .I've heard that there is a huge manpower shortage, officers are driving from Broad Ripple all the way to the geist area just to take runs b/c there aren’t enough officers. Sounds like this is slowly getting better, they are finding some ways to address that shortage. I have another friend who is only 24 and he loves it, no moral problem with him, he likes staying busy and doesn't mind driving all over to take runs, most of his co-workers don’t feel the same as him. If you want a take home car you have to stay in Marion County and if you have kids, its not the best place to raise kids or have kids go to school. IMPD is a much more diverse department than Fishers, after a few years on the street you can go so many places that Fishers couldn’t offer to you….Homicide & Robbery, Mounted Patrol, Traffic Branch, tactical air patrol, Vice, SLED, K9, scuba, the list goes on and on. Yah, on Fishers you can do some of this stuff but you can’t have that be your job, sure you might investigate a robbery or do some undercover work but you can’t concentrate on that specialty alone.

    I think it will come down to what you want to do and where you want to live.
    I tried to stay the most unbiased as possible, but if I was in your shoes I would pick Metro. Just me though!
    Good Luck, either way.
    Last edited by operator48; 09-27-2007, 07:17 PM. Reason: typo
    Rest in Peace I.P.D.

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    • #3
      Operator48......I'm going to commend you on this post. Very informative, and unlike your past posts in regards to other departments vs. IPD/IMPD, you gave a VERY good comparison. Good job. Don't think anything else needs to be said. You've covered it all.

      So duke76, like he said, what kida cop you wanna be?

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      • #4
        I just want to be a cop, but when I do pick a place I want to stay there for the remainder of my career. I want to enjoy my job wherever I go. I just know whenever I've been in contact with Fishers PD they seem to really like their job. However, as operator48 said the moral at IMPD doesn't seem to be positive from my contact with their officers. And I know just a couple of years ago Indianapolis was on a hiring freeze and I just don't see that type of money problem occuring in Fishers. I'm going for a ride-a-long with Fishers this weekend. So hopefully I'll get a glance of their daily activities. When you ask what kind of cop do I want to be what exactly do you mean? Operator48, you said that personally you would choose IMPD. Is that due to the number and type of calls?

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        • #5
          "what kind of cop" means do you want to be super active on call volume and experience a lot of things?(IMPD) Or do you want to have a low call volume and not have as big of a work load?(fishers)

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          • #6
            Originally posted by duke76 View Post
            I just want to be a cop, but when I do pick a place I want to stay there for the remainder of my career. I want to enjoy my job wherever I go. I just know whenever I've been in contact with Fishers PD they seem to really like their job. However, as operator48 said the moral at IMPD doesn't seem to be positive from my contact with their officers. And I know just a couple of years ago Indianapolis was on a hiring freeze and I just don't see that type of money problem occuring in Fishers. I'm going for a ride-a-long with Fishers this weekend. So hopefully I'll get a glance of their daily activities. When you ask what kind of cop do I want to be what exactly do you mean? Operator48, you said that personally you would choose IMPD. Is that due to the number and type of calls?
            My first question is are you young? If you are young and gun-ho I still think IMPD is for you. If you are older it may be a different story. I said I would pick IMPD because if I was young and just getting into the business I would want to work where there is action and the action is exciting. You have to remember IMPD is in a big transition faze right now, the department is only 9 months old. And I promise you IMPD will not be in any hiring freeze anytime soon, they need a lot of officers and they have a lot of officers retiring. Don't let what some IMPD officers have to say influence you too much. A lot of guys/gals were really emotionally hurt by this merger. County guys had lived for county, there co-workers had been killed wearing brown; it was hard for them to change. And the same for IPD officers. That "IPD" or Police-Community Partnership meant a lot to us in a different sense than just words on a police car.
            I definitely would NOT turn down IMPD if you do not have your conditional offer with Fishers yet, you could really regret that down the road if you weren’t picked by FPD.
            PM me the name of the officer you ride with on Saturday, I probably know him.
            Again, Best of Luck.
            Rest in Peace I.P.D.

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            • #7
              Just a few things to add.
              1) IMPD doesn't have SCUBA any longer, it went to IFD.

              2) Morale isn't a universal and is very officer dependent. Some guys are bent out of shape, some feel legitimately screwed, some will complain regardless, and some are pretty positive about the merger. I don't know the percentages, and don't care. At least they are complaining, if you were in the military you probably learned that complaining soldiers aren't a problem because at least they still care even if they don't like the current situation, its the silent brooding soldiers that are your problem. I feel like I've been well received by both ex-county and ex-city guys, personally.
              I miss you, Dave.
              http://www.odmp.org/officer/20669-of...david-s.-moore

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              • #8
                If I was you I would go with IMPD because you havent got a offer from Fishers yet. Worst case scenario is you turn down IMPD to go with Fishers and they dont hire you. So the safe thing to do is go with IMPD.

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                • #9
                  Fishers has some great vehicles yet it is a small town, and it's all up to you. Do you want to work in the city or a subtle town?
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                  • #10
                    :::::::Theme song from the movie "SWAT":::::::::

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                    • #11
                      Go IMPD, it's a safe bet, even though you'd have to work with guys like cruiser and make fun of guys like me:-D

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                      • #12
                        I appreciate all the help you guys have provided. I guess I was hoping for some horrible story from either department to make my decision easy. I'm only 31 so I'm not old, but I'm also not young and looking for action. I would like to stay busy and avoid boredom. The only good thing about possibly losing both IMPD and Fishers is that I'm #1 on Anderson's eligibility list and my first choice, ISP, will start their process at the first of the year. I guess I'm just worried about settling and then regretting my choice. Because once I join a department and they put money into my training I don't think it is right to leave and go somewhere else. I'm going for my ride with Fishers tomorrow. Again thanks for all your advice.

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                        • #13
                          Cool, I'm going on my first ride with Carmel tomorrow (see avatar) . I wouldn't recommend Carmel if you actually want more than traffic stops and domestic disturbances though.

                          If you really want action then obviously IMPD would be a bit more busy than Fishers. ISP wouldn't be a bad bet either.
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                          • #14
                            What are you wearing for you ride tomorrow? I have my intial meet and greet with my background investigator right before roll call. I don't know if I should wear a shirt and tie for this meeting or not.

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                            • #15
                              Carmel Police Department.........those dirty dogs and their visible tattoo policy! Grrrrrrr.
                              Why are there so many babies on O.com? Creole, you and your buddy JPSO Recruit help me out on this one....

                              * "Preach always, if necessary, use words!" St Francis of Assisi

                              * Luke Chapter 6, Verses 27-36

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