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    Comments to Applicants *Four (4) Police Officer positions will be filled from this posting*

    Notice of Vacancy Number 08-408
    Desired Start Date February 2, 2009
    Job Open Date 11-19-2008
    Job Close Date 12-04-2008
    Job Title Public Safety Officer (Police Officer)
    Department PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENT
    Job Type Full-Time
    Salary Grade 111
    Salary Range $16.41/hour

  • #2
    Originally posted by centralincop View Post
    Comments to Applicants *Four (4) Police Officer positions will be filled from this posting*

    Notice of Vacancy Number 08-408
    Desired Start Date February 2, 2009
    Job Open Date 11-19-2008
    Job Close Date 12-04-2008
    Job Title Public Safety Officer (Police Officer)
    Department PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENT
    Job Type Full-Time
    Salary Grade 111
    Salary Range $16.41/hour
    I'm a ISU Grad.... it is a great school. I know a couple of guys that got their start from ISUPD. They had nothing but good things to say about the department.
    “Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms—to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one’s own way.”- Viktor Frankl

    "Any views, opinions, or statements made are not the views of any police department, government agency, or entity that I may or may not work for. Further more the views expressed are solely those of he who made them."

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    • #3
      Doesn't ISU stand for I Screwed Up? LOL At least that's what my wife said they called it while she was at The Woods.
      Why are there so many babies on O.com? Creole, you and your buddy JPSO Recruit help me out on this one....

      * "Preach always, if necessary, use words!" St Francis of Assisi

      * Luke Chapter 6, Verses 27-36

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      • #4
        that seems like low starting pay how fast does that increase
        Please let me know, Thank you.
        US Army 13M

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        • #5
          When I was a security officer with a state university in my part of the state, I was sent to Rose-Hulman for INCLEA, We had several instructors from various university police agencies and munincipal departments. A husband-wife team from the ISU police department taught our defensive tactics class.
          Both had been there a long time. They made it sound like a good department.
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          • #6
            thats pre-academy starting pay. I think its 1500 more after the academy, 1500 more after one year and tops out for an officer around 37 or 38000. I have a friend that works there and he said there is as much overtime as you'd ever want. The pay is close to the local depts. and as much as any university in the state.

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            • #7
              Does anyone have any thoughts or advice on the hiring process. It seems kinda short, but thats a good thing.

              The app. says they prefer an applicant with a degree. I have 4 years military and 1 year police officer with a med. size agency (200 officers) but I have no degree. Do I stand a chance, at least a punchers chance at getting hired? And I am out of state
              Last edited by navy80; 11-21-2008, 02:58 PM. Reason: change words

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              • #8
                Originally posted by towncop View Post
                Doesn't ISU stand for I Screwed Up? LOL At least that's what my wife said they called it while she was at The Woods.
                Yes it does. I went to school there too with Cadet. I have a friend that works there currently.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by centralincop View Post
                  thats pre-academy starting pay. I think its 1500 more after the academy, 1500 more after one year and tops out for an officer around 37 or 38000. I have a friend that works there and he said there is as much overtime as you'd ever want. The pay is close to the local depts. and as much as any university in the state.
                  I work for a university PD and we make more. Purdue FD and PD, for example, make WAY more.

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                  • #10
                    I don't know of any campus pds. that can hang with P.U. They do make a good amount. From the stats I found from 2007, the lowest paid officer at several campus pds. is listed below:
                    V.U. 24544
                    Ball State 34840
                    PUNC 36400
                    PU 42348

                    I didn't say you would make as much as PU. They have a lot more students and can pay a lot more. What ISU does offer is competitive pay for the area.
                    If you are from near Chicago and you're looking at the numbers, they may seem low. My friend enjoys his job there and is by no means worried about money right now. It is a campus and there are some calls that go along with that (escorts, door unlocks, etc.) I have yet to find a dept. that doesn't have its share of silly calls. Take it for what its worth. I'm thinking about putting my app. in to transfer.

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                    • #11
                      With the exception of Purdue, most university PDs don't pay squat. In the end, they get what they ask for. Some of the large universities that get paid squat, but are busy...I don't know how those folks do that job when just across some street there are LEOs working for a city/county making more money. For the record, I do count a take home car as income, min. value of $5,000. I don't know of any universities offering a take-home car, unless your the chief (more of the rich get richer). What makes me really sick is that at some of these places, the chiefs are making $100K plus a take home while their officers don't even break $40K/year. While over-time is nice, if you need over-time to survive and make a decent wage, your are working a lot more than I would ever want to. I am looking at trying to leave to suburban departments around Indy. It is funny when supervisors try to talk good officers out of leaving by claiming "every" other police agency has their problems. Well, that is fine by me..they can be exactly the same as this place, but if your going to pay me $10K/year more + a $5,000 take home vehicle benefit, seems pretty cut and dry to me. Lots of cops in this state, and I mean _LOTS_ were former Indiana Univ. cops. IU's loss is another agencies gain in most cases. Some may disagree, but I have come to the conclusion that some universities are more pro-police and others view them as a necessary evil and treat/fund them as such.

                      University PDs are a good way to get the academy and some training to start your LEO career.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by centralincop View Post
                        I don't know of any campus pds. that can hang with P.U. They do make a good amount. From the stats I found from 2007, the lowest paid officer at several campus pds. is listed below:
                        V.U. 24544
                        Ball State 34840
                        PUNC 36400
                        PU 42348
                        Those have to be starting wages. I just saw Purdue's employee salary guide not too long ago. Since they have their officers listed on their webpage, it was easy to see what they make. I believe it was $22.50/hr. Not sure if that is the top pay or what. Anyways, they work 12/hr shifts which equals out to 42 hours a week (36 one week, 48 the next equals 84 hours in a two week pay period). So they make $49,140/year. I am guessing they make OT anything over the average of 42/hrs. per week.

                        I will say, the thought of applying to Purdue has crossed my mind several times. I have spoken with some of their officers and from what I hear, they are treated very well in many ways.

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                        • #13
                          At one time, Purdue University PD was the highest paying dept. in the state. And as a side note, it's amazing to me how some people put so much freaking importance on a damn take-home ride. Now, if you really want to start considering that a $5,000 benefit, then go ahead and pay takes on it as well. I'll pass and just consider it a nice perk. They want to take it away, I could care less. Personally, I'd rather have the money if that was an option, but it's not, and never will be.

                          And with the 12-hour schedule you figured out 317, they don't have to pay you OT until you go over 170 hours for the pay period (28 days). That's labor law. It's a similar schedule I work at my department. 36 hrs first week, then 44 the next (on our long 3-day weekend, we work an 8-hour Sunday) which gives you 160 total hours for the 28 day pay period. Like I said, no OT pay until you go over the 170 hours.
                          Last edited by towncop; 11-25-2008, 04:23 AM.
                          Why are there so many babies on O.com? Creole, you and your buddy JPSO Recruit help me out on this one....

                          * "Preach always, if necessary, use words!" St Francis of Assisi

                          * Luke Chapter 6, Verses 27-36

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by towncop View Post
                            At one time, Purdue University PD was the highest paying dept. in the state. And as a side note, it's amazing to me how some people put so much freaking importance on a damn take-home ride. Now, if you really want to start considering that a $5,000 benefit, then go ahead and pay takes on it as well. I'll pass and just consider it a nice perk. They want to take it away, I could care less. Personally, I'd rather have the money if that was an option, but it's not, and never will be.
                            What I find funny is that most older officers, who are already well established in their savings/career, seem to care less and less about the take home as they get older. Well, that is all good and well, but like you have commented before, more and more departments want college grads. So we are talking about more and more rookie officers with $10-$20K in debt already starting out. I have not had a take home car for all my time in LE. That is roughly 10 years. In order to have a job like police work, one _must_ have a reliable car because you can't just roll the dice with some piece of junk which could break down at any given time. A decent, reliable used car will run you $250/month. So on just car payments alone, you save $3,000/year if you just have your take-home and save your junker for the days the take-home is down (just cross your fingers the junker works the five times a year you use it). This doesn't even factor in gas, insurance, wear and tear, etc.. Yes, it is a benefit easily worth $5,000/year. If I had went to a department with a take-home car, over my ten years that would have been $50,000....and yet you don't think that amount of money is "freaking" important? All I can figure is that you are either wealthy or your significant other (if you have one) is making some good money. I can tell you right now, with how frugal I live, if I had the benefit of a take-home car, my home would be paid off. From someone who has never had the benefit, it is _very_ attractive, even if it is just to and from work. It _is_ one reason why I will be applying to other departments. I will have to work at least another 25 years before I can even think about retirement. If my $5K/year figure holds true, that is a benefit of $125K over that period in time. How that can not be important blows my mind.

                            Originally posted by towncop View Post
                            And with the 12-hour schedule you figured out 317, they don't have to pay you OT until you go over 170 hours for the pay period (28 days). That's labor law. It's a similar schedule I work at my department. 36 hrs first week, then 44 the next (on our long 3-day weekend, we work an 8-hour Sunday) which gives you 160 total hours for the 28 day pay period. Like I said, no OT pay until you go over the 170 hours.
                            I wondered about that. Thanks for the clarification.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by towncop View Post
                              Personally, I'd rather have the money if that was an option, but it's not, and never will be.
                              I want to say that some departments _do_ have this in their contract with their government agency. If the take-home cars are done away with, they get a certain amount of cash. Maybe some IMPD officers can state if this is true? I know someone I work with has a copy of their labor agreement so I am going to look at it to see if it is in there. If I could get the money, then I am with you, show me the money (as long as they didn't say it was only worth $1,000/year). If they offered $3,000/year + in lieu of the car...I am all for the money.

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