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    So I work for a decently sized department and recently, we had a younger officer end up working on our watch after some flip-flopping. I walked into our squad room the other day and see the new guy (he's got about 3 years on). There are also 6 other officers in the squad shooting the poo.

    I just happen to look down at new guys belt, and I see a green light on his digital voice recorder he's got on his belt. I don't say anything and immediately walked out. A few minutes later, I'm out in the parking lot getting my bike ready to take off and he walks past me. I stop him and ask what gives. He said about what. I look and see the light is off and ask why in the hell he was recording other officers.

    Kid looks around and says that he was bounced from his shift because of some major BS and that he is going to be covering his ***** from now on when he's around several officers and this is the only way he can make sure it's covered. I told him to keep his ***** away from me with that thing.

    What say you? Should I tell the other guys to watch their 6 with this guy or not? I have no idea what went on, don't really care as it's not my business, but do we really need a rat in the house?

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    Stay away from him, spells trouble. Tell others to stay away from him. he doesn't trust you obviously so don't trust him. The Lone Ranger can't do this job anymore, he'll learn that he needs to trust and be trusted by the guys who have his back or no one will. Also check you PD's policy on recording devices and when they can and can not be used with or without knowledge etc. The whole situation sounds bad, steer clear of the poo storm.
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    • #3
      I think it depends on how tight you are with the others in squad room... There are guys in my small department that it wouldn't surprise me one bit if they would try to dig up dirt on a new guy to get him canned.

      Maybe the FNG is paranoid... I'd say either talk to him about it with the green light off or stay away from him...

      I'd guess I'd probably just keep my nose out of it haha.

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      • #4
        I would definitely stay away from that. He seems to be out to stir it up or get somebody in trouble. I would stay clear from him, or if in a situation don't say anything you don't want others to hear. Not Good! I use to work with a guy like that and he would tape everyone and try to burn you with what you would say earlier..EVERYBODY would say to him is your recorder on, if it's not then we can talk!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by mtxpro752 View Post
          Stay away from him, spells trouble. Tell others to stay away from him. he doesn't trust you obviously so don't trust him. The Lone Ranger can't do this job anymore, he'll learn that he needs to trust and be trusted by the guys who have his back or no one will. Also check you PD's policy on recording devices and when they can and can not be used with or without knowledge etc. The whole situation sounds bad, steer clear of the poo storm.
          +1.....stay clear of this knucklehead........and make sure EVERYONE knows he is recording.......
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          • #6
            We had one that kept one in his shirt pocket so no one could see it. He didn't last long. Sounds to me like he is paranoid. What ever BS cause him trouble was his own making. I hate when people try and blame others for their screw ups.
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            • #7
              Isn't there a law about this? Don't you have to have a person's permission to do such a thing. It doesn't matter that you're all officers or not, you can record public meetings and certain court hearings.

              This is right up there with recording all your phone conversations without telling the other party.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by AuxiTrooper View Post
                Isn't there a law about this? Don't you have to have a person's permission to do such a thing. It doesn't matter that you're all officers or not, you can record public meetings and certain court hearings.

                This is right up there with recording all your phone conversations without telling the other party.
                It depends on whose conversation he's recording. Indiana is a "one party state" meaning that if one party in the conversation is aware (even if it is the one who is doing the recording) then it's legal. He could record a conversation between himself and another person but he could not legally record a conversation between two others without them knowing.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by AuxiTrooper View Post
                  Isn't there a law about this? Don't you have to have a person's permission to do such a thing. It doesn't matter that you're all officers or not, you can record public meetings and certain court hearings.

                  This is right up there with recording all your phone conversations without telling the other party.
                  Negative AuxiTrooper. JsHarmon is right. As long as one party is aware that the conversation is being recorded, it's perfectly legal. However, there may be department rules at stake.
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                  • #10
                    Yup, I routinely record my field interviews. Victims know they are being recorded, suspects don't. Its great to send the prosecutor a copy of a defendent screaming "I'll kill that b-, I'll cut her head off! Let me out of these cuffs and I'll pound her d- head in" for example. As a matter of courtesy I let other officers who work around me know I'm recording.

                    Dept. policy FOR US allows audio recording with personal equipment but video equipment must be department issue. Indiana law would allow you to walk around with a tape recorder 24/7 should you choose to do so (and stayed out of concerts/movies...).
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