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  • jehende
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    I know some great Guys on the police department. I'm speaking in regards to the rep of the city, which weighs down on the PD. I've known guys to say they find it hard to move on...and some that have successfully moved on. Bottom line...get certified and move on.

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  • USMC86
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    A lot of people will talk bad in this forum about Harvey. If you really want to be the police, then apply and get certified. if you want to listen to the people talk crap then go ahead and don't apply. i can bet that most of the people that talk crap on the forum are the same people that go and test. All they try to do is eliminate the competition at the testing. it's all about how bad you want to be the police. i do agree with some, don't stay at harvey. get experience and go elsewhere. guys that start off at harvey and go elsewhere do great at other departments.

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  • jehende
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    Avoid Harvey if you can. I know for most guys entry level you try to get on with who hire yout first. Most towns have some sort of corruption, but Harvey is like thee worst! You would get a hell of a experience, but you also may have some difficulty moving onto another department. Harvey reputation is awful. Although there are great Guys and gals at the pd...the overall rep ruins it for most of the people. Until a new mayor is elected...expect things to be as is.

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  • Raiden341
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    It's just one of those things... There may be great guys there with a lot of potential, but because of where they work, it will hold them down or give them a bad stigma.

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  • southpaw13
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    Edited out
    Last edited by southpaw13; 08-11-2015, 02:14 PM.

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  • IrishSheepdog54
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    I work near Harvey (not for Harvey), and I highly suggest you consider elsewhere if you can. They have some good guys there (they've backed me up a few times and I appreciate it greatly), but overall the department and city are a disaster.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/w...ry.html#page=1

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  • maidana
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    So glad I'm staying away from here.....WOW

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  • Raiden341
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    Originally posted by southpaw13 View Post
    . Speaking in general now, it just takes 1 bad apple to give a PD a black eye....remember that. It could happen any day, anywhere and it might change the way you or the public view YOUR PD. For full disclosure, I don't work here.
    Problem is, Harvey didn't have one bad apple. They had a bad tree at one point. They didn't have one black eye, they had an armada of them to where many Officer's at many different departments throughout the state said "WOW". It's not just a little story that got them the rep, it was many.

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  • Joe Snuffy
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    Originally posted by southpaw13 View Post
    All BS aside, I have a lot of respect for that officer who pushed the rookie officer out of the way and literally took a bullet for him last year. Thankfully he survived to tell about it. You can't teach that in the academy. When someone says "Harvey PD"...that's what comes to my mind honestly. I just wanted to add that, but that's just my opinion.

    Speaking in general now, it just takes 1 bad apple to give a PD a black eye....remember that. It could happen any day, anywhere and it might change the way you or the public view YOUR PD. For full disclosure, I don't work here.
    He very well may have prevented an LOD that day and his heroics were on full display. With that said, most of the criticism presented here didn't address officers, it addressed management and major operational flaws. His attitude and his actions that day is not representative of how the department is viewed inwardly...by its own officers.

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  • Joe Snuffy
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    Originally posted by dogcop View Post
    i couldn't picture being anything else but a cop but not at any cost. In my opinion harvey is one of those places. I was very selective with where i tested and am currently on a well respected department and also left from one too. You will be tainted by association no doubt. Also i like the statement of "you will be the police". What exactly does that mean? If all you do is go on shooting calls, aren't taught proper investigative and evidence procedures. And if your report reads "responded to shooting, saw victim shot, no witnesses. Scene turned over to investigations and cleared". Well you really aren't learning how to be the police. My advice is never test or take a job anywhere you couldn't picture spending your entire career. Sometimes that stepping stone turns into the rock that drowns you.
    classic post imo!!!

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  • southpaw13
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    All BS aside, I have a lot of respect for that officer who pushed the rookie officer out of the way and literally took a bullet for him last year. Thankfully he survived to tell about it. You can't teach that in the academy. When someone says "Harvey PD"...that's what comes to my mind honestly. I just wanted to add that, but that's just my opinion.

    Speaking in general now, it just takes 1 bad apple to give a PD a black eye....remember that. It could happen any day, anywhere and it might change the way you or the public view YOUR PD. For full disclosure, I don't work here.

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  • dogcop
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    I couldn't picture being anything else but a cop BUT not at any cost. In my opinion Harvey is one of those places. I was very selective with where I tested and am currently on a well respected department and also left from one too. You will be tainted by association no doubt. Also I like the statement of "you will be the Police". What exactly does that mean? If all you do is go on shooting calls, aren't taught proper investigative and evidence procedures. And if your report reads "responded to shooting, saw victim shot, no witnesses. Scene turned over to investigations and cleared". Well you really aren't learning how to be the Police. My advice is never test or take a job anywhere you couldn't picture spending your entire career. Sometimes that stepping stone turns into the rock that drowns you.
    Last edited by dogcop; 08-09-2015, 11:04 AM.

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  • ChiTownDet
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    My bad news Harvey story has to do with a murder investigation we were on. When it took us from Harvey to a neighboring burb, we observed the officers from these 2 places do the "Vice Lord" handshake when we all met up. We made up an excuse to leave , as there were great reservations about our "target's info" being given to him.

    I read the audit. It was amazing that there were/are P/O's that were hired there without a BI being done, being printed, or having a CQH run on them prior to hire. The evidence procedures already account for one Detective's life being ruined and him going to prison. If you read between the lines, it appears that they like to give jobs "with titles" to people that may not be the best for the job, or totally incompetent for the job. A Division who's only person assigned is a "Commander?" And the auditors who gave a report to the SSMCTF on why Harvey be denied admission, were being kind. The actual reason has to do with things like what I typed in the first paragraph on this post.

    As was said by others here, you will get good street experience there, maybe/maybe not the best organizational/ operation procedural experience. In you do plan on using it as a stepping stone, don't stay more than a few years, as other PD's may look at as "tainted" by Harvey's ways.
    Last edited by ChiTownDet; 08-08-2015, 10:36 AM.

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  • scotty_appleton814
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    My family was really close to George, and I admit I had never heard anything about that (but put nothing past nobody however). Thats pretty bogus if true. Suppose karma comes around. Also, I have a relative who USED to work there. Should have emphasized that part, but I let people make their own opinions. Nothing said on this forum relating to Harvey has been false.

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  • Raiden341
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    ...here's one for you. My agency had to follow up with Harvey on an Armed Robbery that occurred about 4hrs prior. The report was "lost" and no one knew where to find it. Investigators tried to get the report and was told there was "nothing that can be done because it was lost". Just wow.

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