What did u take from the meeting? Legitimate organization or not?
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.................................................. ....Last edited by equalsword; 10-16-2017, 07:54 PM.
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Originally posted by REALfive0 View PostWhat did u take from the meeting? Legitimate organization or not?For the cops out there: You are an adult. If you want to write someone, write them. If you don't want to write someone, then don't write them.
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Why anyone would want to volunteer to wear a uniform and badge these days, with none of the REAL training, and with none of the benefits, and with none of the coverage in case you get hurt, is beyond me.
I'm sure the people in this organization are professional and dedicated. But you should care for yourSELF enough to avoid it.
As for your original question - "legitimate or not"... Most will say no. Here is the long and the short of it: they are NOT a police department by any definition. Their members are occasionally granted temporary police powers through contracts with municipalities for special events. They have no affiliation with the State of Illinois."Well I'd lock him up for what we know he did, and then throw in a few extra years for what he probably did." ~Hank Hill
"Why do you need to carry a gun? There aren't any bad people in this town..."
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Originally posted by Ten-32 View PostHere is the long and the short of it: they are NOT a police department by any definition. Their members are occasionally granted temporary police powers through contracts with municipalities for special events. They have no affiliation with the State of Illinois.
“Truth is not what you want it to be; it is what it is, and you must bend to its power or live a lie.”
—Miyamoto Musashi
“Life Is Hard, But It's Harder When You're Stupid”
—George V. Higgins (from The Friends of Eddie Coyle)
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Phweew - I can sleep easy tonight.
They have a rapid response team.
http://ilpolicereserves.org/about-the-ipr/
While we're all pondering that, here is the full text of the ILETSB memo about this sort of organization:
Illinois Law Enforcement Training and Standards Board Opinion
Non-governmental, legally unrecognized, and unauthorized
“auxiliary/reserve police organizationsâ€
May 10, 2011
The Illinois Law Enforcement Training and Standards Board, in cooperation with the U.S.
Marshals Service, Northern District of Illinois, U.S. Department of Justice, and the Illinois State Police, is
conducting an investigation into non-governmental, legally unrecognized, and unauthorized
“auxiliary/reserve police organizationsâ€offering “police assistance, services, and employees†to county
and local police agencies.Certain illicit organizations have been successful in convincing law
enforcement agencies that they are legitimate.These organizations have also attempted to create an
appearance of authority through financial records and other “legal†documents to avoid constitutional
requirements establishing real law enforcement authority for the use of police powers.Since this Board
is responsible for the certification of all law enforcement personnel in the State of Illinois, we wanted
you to be aware of this situation in order to avoid jeopardizing the safety and security of your
community.
The Illinois Attorney General, Lisa Madigan, has written an opinion, published on December 31st,
2010, regarding these organizations.The Attorney General’s opinion has been posted on our website.
In addition, Illinois laws and Board policy pertaining to auxiliary officers can also be found on our
website (http://www.ptb.state.il.us).
Following are a few brief bullet points regarding non-governmental, legally unrecognized, and
unauthorized “auxiliary/reserve police organizationsâ€:
o There is no legislation which licenses, authorizes, certifies, approves, or in any manner
provides police authority to corporations or associations which profess to be, under the
color of law, an “auxiliary/reserve police†entity.
o The Board does not certify or recognize members of such organizations as auxiliary
police.
o The Board does not certify or recognize any training courses provided to members of
such organizations by “instructors†of such a private organizations.
o The Board does not certify or recognize any “instructors†of such organizations.
o While the organizations may incorporate with the Illinois Secretary of State as a not-for-
profit corporation, or a not-for-profit charity corporation, the charter does not authorize
the organizations or their members any police authority or arrest authority.
Non-governmental, legally unrecognized, and unauthorized “auxiliary/reserve police
organizations†are not:
ƒ A municipal police entity
ƒ A police entity
ƒ An auxiliary police entity
ƒ A law enforcement agency
Members of non-governmental, legally unrecognized, and unauthorized “auxiliary/reserve
police organizations†are not:
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Auxiliary police officers
ƒ Reserve police officers
ƒ Full or Part-time Police officers
ƒ Law Enforcement officers
ƒ Peace Officers
ƒ Conservators of the Peace
The Illinois Law Enforcement Training and Standards Board concurs with the U.S. Marshals
Service, Northern District of Illinois, U.S. Department of Justice, and Attorney General Madigan that,
based upon Illinois law non-governmental, legally unrecognized, and unauthorized “auxiliary/reserve
police organizations†are not legal and should not be utilized in any way.
Any agency “commissioning†or using these organizations within their jurisdictions may be
exposing their community to liability for the actions of these individuals.Any individual member of such
a group claiming to have law enforcement authority is violating Illinois criminal law and is subject to
arrest for Unlawful Use of Weapon, False Impersonation of a Police Officer, and potentially other crimes.
It is the intent of the Illinois Law Enforcement Training and Standards Board to provide this
information to the Illinois law enforcement community in order to inform local law enforcement officials
of the laws regarding auxiliary police officers and to forestall any possible negative repercussions to our
law enforcement communities.A copy of this letter along with Attorney General Madigan’s opinion can
be found on the Board’s website (http://www.ptb.state.il.us).
Agencies with questions pertaining to this matter are encouraged to seek advice from their
corporate legal counsel.
Kevin T. McClain
Executive Director
Illinois Law Enforcement Training and Standards BoardLast edited by Ten-32; 01-22-2015, 10:43 PM."Well I'd lock him up for what we know he did, and then throw in a few extra years for what he probably did." ~Hank Hill
"Why do you need to carry a gun? There aren't any bad people in this town..."
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