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  • Yes there will be more classes as well.
    Vaya con dios

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    • Originally posted by Eiba View Post
      Yes there will be more classes as well.
      Do you know how many more classes they plan to have this year?

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      • No clue but there will be classes.
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        • That's BS, when I was in the process I had my background completed before my friend's was and he got hired one academy class before me, go figure with the state.
          But one thing is for sure, when your BG is done pretty much you are ready to go.
          In regards of conceal carry for c/o, hope you are not stupid enough to bring your weapon and leave it in your car on the state property, of course if you don't mind losing your job.
          Last edited by Americoza; 06-23-2014, 12:52 PM.

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          • Originally posted by Eiba View Post
            No clue but there will be classes.
            Thank you so much for your input n knowledge

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            • @americoza... facilities have a such thing as gun lockers, it's what they currently use to store weapons when inside the wire.

              @ anyone thinking about applying or who already has and would like to know the testing process, I'm going to list a comprehensive run-down below. I'm sure this has been posted elsewhere, but seeing as in just getting home from the test today, maybe I have some updated info on the process... I know I would have appreciated the intel, as I hate surprises. If you've already tested, and are playing hurry up and wait, this post clearly isn't for you.

              You arrive at 0730 for your first check in, make sure you have your physical DL AND a photocopy in hand for this. Sign in and proceed to check-in #2

              At second check in they review all of the required paperwork you were supposed to bring. Make sure you have everything the checklist says you need. Also, it says no copies will be accepted, yet they want it to have a visible seal, so I'd bring original and copy just to be sure ; they took my original. After this they will seat you.

              At your seat you'll start the application if you didn't come with it done ahead of time as recommended. They'll give instructions on how to fill it all out. Be prepared to list any gaps in employment, they want a full accounting of everything you've done since age 18... this took some people some time.

              First written test ; 50 multiple choice questions, 50 minutes. This test was so easy it was hard... its meant to ensure you have a 10th grade reading level... and apparently about 30 people did not read at a sophomore level. This was basic reading comprehension.

              Second written test; 30 questions, 20 minutes. To paraphrase the Sergeant if you fail this test something is clearly wrong with you. You'll first watch a brief scenario, pay attention and take notes, and answer about 15 questions on the scenario. The other 15 are basic "...if this happens what do you do,"type questions.

              Next a third written multiple choice with 6 questions for 10 minutes... these questions are part of your interview portion, yet they aren't mentioned in the interview... after this you'll get another form asking you if you have ever raped anyone...yea, they actually ask this.

              Now it's time for the physical... word to the wise pee before it is time for the physical. If you pee during the change over from written to physical you run the risk of being last in line and this will ensure you are there for damn near the full 10 hours. If they ask for volunteers to go first do it! I was one of the last to go so I got to pretty much watch everyone. The step test in my opinion is the most difficult, yet I only saw about 2-4 people fail it. The obstacle course saw a lot of fatalities, typically the chubbies and women who spent to much time trying to be pretty and not enough time running... this is not the time to be worried about your wig falling off. The course is not complicated, it's not long, and 30 seconds is actually a lot of time. If you're in half way decent shape and are not easily intimidated you'll be fine. The box test (replaced push ups) was too simple, I think like two people went down on that, but lift with your legs and walk the width of the gym three times; no biggie. The pulling test isn't even worth talking about, if you fail it your clearly 97 years old.

              Now you sit and wait for your interview, which is not much of an interview... don't stress this at all!! You meet with two C/Os, you sign some more ****, they review your paperwork to make sure everything is completed...again. And then they ask you a script of questions like, "how will you treat inmates who've committed rape. etc," "will you work any shift...do ot...work at other facilities if needed, etc.?" After that you sit and wait again for someone to review your paperwork AGAIN, if it's all good they'll tell you to go... don't leave until they say leave!!

              All in all I'd say the last of the last people walked out of there at like the 9.5 hour mark... try your damnest to be at the front of the PT line and it could cut your time in half.

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              • There's an actual law that prohibits weapons of any kind into state correctional facilities, even the parking lot. And yes, your vehicle could be subject to a shakedown at any point. And of they find a weapon in your car of any kind, you're fired or at least, suspended. Yes there is a locker for weapons but that's only for other counties or parol agents so they can use when they bring inmates in. We are the police inside of a prison. There is no reason for me to carry outside of the prison under the IDOC badge. I have the same powers as John Doe, none.
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                • @hapkidoka... you're right. this is totally my fault, I didn't start the conversation, but I did rehash it and it is now boring me... What really makes me lose interest is 'officers' speaking up and saying things a person in the department would never say, or falsehoods they should know.

                  IDOC C/O are in no way police... I totally disagree with it, but it's IL law. You are Law Enforcement, but the reason you can't due to your job carry off duty is because you are not sworn /deputized peace officers, under IL law... you do take an oath, but it's not the same oath... again don't agree with it. If a county C/O cab (not always) be considered a deputized peace officer, than so should state... so that covers the reason for no off duty carry based on job title, however, a new way around that is concealed carry if that's the way the hypothetical C/O would like to go about it.

                  As for at the facility, the person who even brought up leaving your weapon in your car... I'm not even sure why I am entertaining that comment with two replies now... IL C/O by title have the same carry powers as IL security officers, which is they can carry at work, if needed for special assignments where it is allowed, and one hour to and from work. Look it up if you'd like. Me personally I'm not comfortable, if I have to do a court or hospital escort or whatever using a weapon from the armory. If I'm on a assignment where a gun is called for, it's because I could potentially use it, I'd like to know it's going to work if needed.

                  Now, can we go back to talking about what's really important here, the probability of actually getting hired on within the year? It is why we're all here in the first place. Anything further on guns, just do your research.
                  Last edited by Magnus_C; 06-28-2014, 12:56 AM.

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                  • @ Magnus C, dude you are just an applicant, I went through the IDOC academy and spent some time on the job, you will pay consenquenses even if they shake you down and find a knife, screwdriver, or alcohol, not mention firearm. As it was mentioned above those secure lockers only for outside agencies.
                    Good luck if you get caught with weapon without FOID and CC permit, just with IDOC badge.
                    Last edited by Americoza; 06-30-2014, 11:12 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by Americoza View Post
                      @ Magnus C, dude you are just an applicant, I went through the IDOC academy and spent some time on the job, you will pay consenquenses even if they shake you down and find a knife, screwdriver, or alcohol, not mention firearm. As it was mentioned above those secure lockers only for outside agencies.
                      Good luck if you get caught with weapon without FOID and CC permit, just with IDOC badge.
                      Can you show me when and where the Unified Code of Corrections was changed? In 2008 or 2009 it was modified to allow institutional staff the ability to keep those items secured in their vehicle.
                      Inmate: Why y'all treat us like criminals
                      Me: you really want an answer to that
                      Inmate: Man thats crazy CO

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                      • Won't continue to have this conversation , may be an applicant, but I know my laws and statutes pretty well. But at this point non of this even matters to me.

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                        • Originally posted by Magnus_C View Post
                          Won't continue to have this conversation , may be an applicant, but I know my laws and statutes pretty well. But at this point non of this even matters to me.
                          "None" J/S
                          Inmate: Why y'all treat us like criminals
                          Me: you really want an answer to that
                          Inmate: Man thats crazy CO

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                          • Does anyone have any insight on how many other classes are they going to have? What's a good score to secure a job with idoc???

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                            • Originally posted by HapkidoKa View Post
                              Can you show me when and where the Unified Code of Corrections was changed? In 2008 or 2009 it was modified to allow institutional staff the ability to keep those items secured in their vehicle.
                              Man, I'm just telling you what I was told in the Academy, which I graduated in 2012 and was told many times at Sheridan CC, no weapon, alcohol or drugs on person or personal vehicle that parked on the state property.
                              I'm pretty sure that people still do their thing until they get caught, I remember while in the academy during the range week one of the instructors ( black suit) was carrying his glock 22 on his belt from the range to the academy, if he was pulled over by ISP it would have been very embarrassing to give up his weapon and go to jail in handcuffs since IDOC are not deputized.
                              Last edited by Americoza; 07-02-2014, 09:43 PM.

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                              • Originally posted by Americoza View Post
                                Man, I'm just telling you what I was told in the Academy, which I graduated in 2012 and was told many times at Sheridan CC, no weapon, alcohol or drugs on person or personal vehicle that parked on the state property.

                                I asked when was the law changed not what you were told. If you do not know the answer please don't repeat what was told to you. I'm not trying to be a jerk but you are telling us something that was told to you by someone else who was told by someone else..

                                The law (Criminal Code of 2012) reads as follows:
                                "(g) For a violation of subsection (a) or (b) involving alcoholic liquor, a weapon, firearm, firearm ammunition, tool to defeat security mechanisms, cutting tool, or electronic contraband, the items shall not be considered to be in a penal institution when they are secured in an employee's locked, private motor vehicle parked on the grounds of a penal institution.
                                (Source: P.A. 96-328, eff. 8-11-09; 96-1112, eff. 1-1-11; 96-1325, eff. 7-27-10; 97-333, eff. 8-12-11; 97-1108, eff. 1-1-13.)"


                                You are more than welcome to look for yourself. There is nothing in the Unified Code of Corrections or elsewhere to contradict that.


                                Originally posted by Americoza View Post
                                I'm pretty sure that people still do their thing until they get caught, I remember while in the academy during the range week one of the instructors ( black suit) was carrying his glock 22 on his belt from the range to the academy, if he was pulled over by ISP it would have been very embarrassing to give up his weapon and go to jail in handcuffs since IDOC are not deputized.
                                He wouldn't have been arrested.
                                Last edited by HapkidoKa; 07-03-2014, 04:05 AM.
                                Inmate: Why y'all treat us like criminals
                                Me: you really want an answer to that
                                Inmate: Man thats crazy CO

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