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    i was wondering if this is a common practice of transporting prisoners
    in a no cage car, sitting in the back seat with a firearm, with a prisoner secured, i am glad he was captured, we had a incident in tampa , fla
    2 detectives and a state trooper were murdered by a prisoner in the back seat who had a handcuff key on a neck chain neck and this prompted laws regarding handcuff
    keys on prisoners that are not declared when property is inventoried.
    " if you talk in your sleep, don't mention my name....
    " if you walk in your sleep, forget where you came....

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    Don't really know if it's common practice with state's attorney investigators and I won't monday morning quarterback the situation other than to say I listened to the entire incident on ISPERN from the moment the initial broadcast went out to the moment he crashed and hats off to the officers involved in capturing this sh*tbag.

    Last edited by TOPPED_OUT; 09-18-2009, 04:08 PM. Reason: ...

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    • #3
      If you want it done right just have Expos do it!

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      • #4
        Lucky those two officers are still alive. That is why you carry back up guns and hidden handcuff keys.

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        • #5
          The problem is also that SA Inv's may be certified as Law Enforcement and go to the Academy, but practically speaking they are not street Police Officers and don't have the hands on experience or training that is needed. I'll be interested to hear how this really unfolded and won't MMQB them either, but I have NO idea how this could happen.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by dogcop View Post
            The problem is also that SA Inv's may be certified as Law Enforcement and go to the Academy, but practically speaking they are not street Police Officers and don't have the hands on experience or training that is needed. I'll be interested to hear how this really unfolded and won't MMQB them either, but I have NO idea how this could happen.
            I thought I read somewhere one of the officers was retired CPD? To be honest, I've worked alongside some officers who have been on the street, yet their tactics SUCK and put them at great risk for danger.

            Although I'm sure they're happy to be alive, I feel for those investigators as I'm sure they are beating themselves pretty good about this.

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            • #7
              Actually a lot (I would say most) of the SA Investigators are retired CPD and Suburban PD. Detectives. The few that had no LE experience that got hired at the SAO are rarer than a CCSPD that got made without a "hook."

              There are a few specialized areas in SAO Inv. (assigned to Maywood investigations, Public Integrity Unit, Suburban Police Shooting Teams, HIDTA, Death Penalty case investigations), but primarily it's digging up and finding witnesses for trial and getting them there, doing a search warrant or two for SA investigations (Harvey PD raid a few years back), serving subpoenas. It's easy to get a bit lackadaisical doing their job day in and day out.

              I don't know what jumped off in that squad car, but the interior of a car isn't the optimum place for a me lee. I'll bet those 2 dicks are beating themselves up a bunch over this. At least nobody got killed. I really thought the ending was going to be a wild-***z shootout or finding him parked in the woods with one in the noodle. Great job by all the NW burbs, West Chgo PD and Marshal's Fug. T/F on a good outcome..

              Everyone went home in one piece.
              Last edited by ChiTownDet; 09-19-2009, 10:39 AM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by dogcop View Post
                The problem is also that SA Inv's may be certified as Law Enforcement and go to the Academy, but practically speaking they are not street Police Officers and don't have the hands on experience or training that is needed. I'll be interested to hear how this really unfolded and won't MMQB them either, but I have NO idea how this could happen.
                Actually you are wrong...the overwhelmingly large majority of investigators are retired CPD with a smattering of cops from the burbs. They are very much street officers who have been there and done that!!! Obviously they got more than a little complacent. As an agency, It is VERY hard to get into and their entry requirements are ten years on the job or a 4yr degree. I appreciate the comment about MMQB but suffice it to say that most of their investigators have forgotten more about police work than we know.
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                • #9
                  Thanks for the correction guys. I went to the Acad with one that was going there. And I incorrectly "heard" from someone that most had no street experience. But now that makes it even more disappointing that such a thing can take place.
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                  • #10
                    Cool ghillie suit Illinois Law Enforcement means business

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                    Last edited by Jail Guard7160; 09-19-2009, 02:09 PM. Reason: OCD

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