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  • reelle
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    FTO is a given, I was told this was not the case anymore for going through the entire academy for laterals. You are screened on a case-by-case basis analysis to determine the creditworthiness of your training and experience. I recently applied as a lateral. However, I seem to be placed on the back burner because I only want to reserve here. Reserve positions for HPD tend to be sanctioned for prior HPD members

  • hawaiian808
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    How’s hpd in general ? I’m from
    oahu currently with Maui pd ….. looking at moving back and possibly doing the lateral ….. ur right about the new retirement it’s trash lol…… has there been a lateral academy yet?

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  • Aidokea
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    Keep in mind that if you buy one at the Govplanet auction, that you cannot inspect it before you buy it- you just have to go on the pictures and the inspection report. There are also no maintenance records available. They try to start them with a jump box, but almost none of them come with batteries. And there is no warranty. So the risk is huge. We were EXCEPTIONALLY fortunate.

    Keep in mind also, that the condition of each unit varies tremendously. We were fortunate enough to get one in nearly perfect condition. Price out an engine or something like that and decide how much you're willing to gamble before you start bidding. Some guys buy several trucks, to be able to put one good one together, and then part the rest out.

    Everything is expensive for them- new tires are $15,000 a set, although you can find NOS and used surplus tires for less. A pair of locking door handles to replace the stock non-locking door handles, was $400 and took several months to get, including sweet-talking Oshkosh Defense into giving me the part numbers, and then finding a vendor willing to sell to a private individual.

    You also have to go through a government background investigation before you will be allowed to take delivery.

    Transporting something that big is not easy or cheap- they are about 12 feet tall, so they can only be transported on public roadways via the very lowest RGN (Removable Goose Neck) trailers. It cost about $3,000 to have ours trucked up to us, and ours was one of the few that start, ran, drove, and came with batteries, so they were able to simply drive it on and off the trailer.

    Anything before '06 isn't gonna have A/C, and anything after '07 isn't gonna be able to be legally registered due to federal emissions laws relating to DPF (Diesel Particulate Filters), DEF fluid, and all that.

    Then there is all the paperwork- it can take a year between the time you win the auction, and when you finally have your truck. It could be as little as six months, but there are guys that have been waiting 18 months, and still have no clue if or when they'll be able to take delivery of their trucks.

    We have successfully navigated all of this, and we are very very thankful.

  • Winter_Patriot
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    That sounds badass. I looked at a couple that are currently up for auction, starting at about $7,000 each. I couldn't find out how much they're actually selling for though. It's amazing that the government will take that much of a price hit on these. Didn't know they were $250k new. It's not something I could afford now anyway, but that's a good long-term goal.

  • Aidokea
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    The MTVR is SUCH a cool platform.

    We were looking at Deuces, but the 2.5 ton trucks are SO underpowered and very slow- they usually won't even reach 50 mph. So then we started looking at 5-tons, and they had a little more power, but were still really slow. And they're both very crude vehicles. And most of them are really old and beat up.

    But then some MTVRs started going to auction.

    The MTVRs are massively bigger than even a 5-ton- they have 53" tall tubeless double-beadlock Michelin radials- our particular MTVR has run-flat inserts, because it was originally an armored gun truck attached to a special forces unit. Stock, the MTVRs are about 12 feet tall- when we moved to Texas, we were looking DOWN into 18-wheel tractor-trailer rigs. With it's 15-ton (30,000 pound) cargo capacity, an MTVR could carry TWO 2.5 ton trucks, and still have several tons of payload capacity left over. Or you could load down a 20,000 pound 5 ton truck to it's maximum payload capacity of 10,000 pounds, put it in the back of an MTVR, and the MTVR would still not be over it's 62,200 pound GVWR.

    The MTVRs are also massively more powerful and faster than the smaller trucks- it has a 12-liter (732 cubic inch) intercooled CAT turbodiesel engine. The engine is detuned to 425 horsepower and 1,550 pounds of torque. There are tunes available for this engine up to about 600 horsepower, but frankly we just don't need it- it will easily hit the rev-limiter at 65 mph.

    The MTVRs are way more sophisticated than the older trucks- it has long-travel (16") coil-sprung fully-independent suspension, ABS, traction control, full-time torque-biasing All Wheel Drive, five selectable drivetrain lockers, dual CTIS so you can air up or air down the front and rear tires independently of each other on the fly, a heavy-duty 7-speed wide-ratio Allison double-overdrive automatic transmission, power steering, power brakes, an insulated hard cab, and an adjustable air ride seat. Ours even has air conditioning. It's like driving a giant pickup truck.

    The MTVRs are also much newer than the older trucks. They were introduced in 2000, and are still currently in use today. Ours is a 2007.

    And the MTVRs can be a great value- the U.S. government paid $250,000 for ours new. They put about 3,000 miles on it and then sent it to auction, where we sniped it for about $15,000, in nearly perfect condition. When it was delivered, all I had to do was replace two burned out exterior light bulbs and a $10 air ride seat switch. Even if you paid the fair market value of about $40,000 for one like ours, it would still be a fantastic deal.
    Last edited by Aidokea; 06-24-2021, 03:08 PM.

  • Winter_Patriot
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    The winters will probably only get milder going forward. Sounds like you were ready and actually had an enjoyable time there. Nice motorhome setup. I'd like something like that at some point, but I don't have anywhere to store it. Someday.

  • Aidokea
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    Lol- we moved in at Thanksgiving, and our first winter here involved the biggest winter storm in 40 years. Several waves of ice, and around 8" of snow, which drifted up to several feet deep in certain parts of my property. It never got above freezing for almost 2 weeks, with a low of 1 degree and a "feels like" temperature of -13.

    We knew the storm was coming, so we made a run into town to load up on water, booze, and food. Everybody at the store looked at me like I was crazy. We have a giant ex-USMC special forces MTVR 6x6 that we converted from an armored gun truck into a motorhome, to include installing a CAT generator, so we pulled it out of the shop, stuck it beside the house, packed insulating materials around the generator to keep it from freezing, and ran a heavy-duty extension cord under our garage door and into the house in case we lost power. I went around and insulated all of the outside faucets. My wife's European Delivery Track Pack BMW came with Michelin Pilot Super Sport track day tires that don't deal well with cold temps, so I built a false wall of 3.5" thick rigid polyiso foam insulation boards to insulate the garage door, and put a space heater in the garage.

    A lot of people here lost power, ran out of food, water, and/or heat, then tried to leave their houses, slid off icy roads, crashed, and then came home to broken water pipes. We just had movie parties in our home theater for a week or so.

    I wish I could post a picture of the igloo we built in our back yard...
    Last edited by Aidokea; 06-24-2021, 11:58 AM.

  • Winter_Patriot
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    Texas is on my list long-term, I hear good things all the time. I'm out in Iowa now. It's starting to look better lately but the winters are rough.

  • Aidokea
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    After I retired, we bought a ranch in central Texas.

    It is beautiful. We have amazing sunrises and sunsets just about every day. With all the BBQ, craft beer, Mexican food, tequila-based cocktails, history, diversity, culture, guns, and high speed limits here, we do not find it boring at all.

    And our money goes SO much further here.

  • Winter_Patriot
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    That was the biggest sticking point for me. I was planning to get married and never could have afforded to buy. I ended up going to the midwest instead, just bought a new construction home for $200k. It's boring and not pretty in middle America, but you get more for your money.

  • alex001
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    Yes I realize that there is an academy and that FTO is required, I graduated from HPU in 2011 and lived on Oahu for 4 years in various areas around downtown. I am multi-racial and enjoyed living on the diverse island.

  • Aidokea
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    And the average home is over a million dollars. I'd recommend spending more than that- a lot more.

    Trying to save money by living in a less-expensive neighborhood, can range from dangerous to deadly. In Hawaii, problems are rarely settled by words or by individuals- they are settled by several truckloads of giant mokes returning to ambush lone victims, in a manner that makes Reginald Denny's beating look mild in comparison. ALWAYS carry, avoid going out after dark, and avoid areas where your skin color is not popular...

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  • Aidokea
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    The public schools are utterly abysmal. Private schools are better, but expensive. Home-schooling is possible, but be ready for some push-back.
    Last edited by Aidokea; 06-23-2021, 05:52 PM.

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  • Aidokea
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    I forgot to mention- Corporals get department-paid subsidized cars, which saves you the expense of having to purchase a POV, plus it gets you out of any pursuits or transports.

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  • Aidokea
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    Yikes.

    Good decision.

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