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  • APD Rookies to walk beats

    Check this out.

    http://www.policeone.com/police-prod...to-walk-beats/

    ATLANTA — The Atlanta City Council on Monday voted to put rookie police officers on foot and bicycle patrols in high-crime neighborhoods.

    The council also passed a resolution urging the police department to create a permanent foot patrol unit.

    Councilman Ceasar Mitchell suggested the foot patrol idea in October to slow a rise in crime in Atlanta. Police department figures show an increase last year from 2006 by about 20 percent in categories such as homicide, robbery, auto theft and burglary.

    "We want to see a sustained foot patrol presence in our communities," Mitchell said after Monday's vote.

    Mitchell proposed putting officers who graduate from the next police academy class in the police department's two zones with the highest crime rates in serious categories like murder. The officers would work in those zones for eight weeks and then be moved into regular duties.

    Last year, Zones 1 and 4 had the highest crime totals in most major categories, according to police department data. Zone 1 is located in west-central Atlanta. Zone 4 is southwest Atlanta.

    Future police academy graduates would be dispatched to the city's four other police zones.

    Mitchell rejected criticism that the City Council should not be involved in setting policy for the police department.

    "I strongly feel community policing is an important approach for our community," he said.

    Mitchell said the recruits in the current police academy class would participate in the program.

    Copyright 2008 The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

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    I wish we had this here in KC. I would love to be out on bicycle or foot every day. Great way to stay in shape, and get paid at the same time. Only problem would be if a suspect flees in a vehicle, you would have no way to give chase.
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    • #3
      I am 100% in favor of community policing. Never hurts to get out and be seen.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by TheKansan View Post
        I wish we had this here in KC. I would love to be out on bicycle or foot every day. Great way to stay in shape, and get paid at the same time. Only problem would be if a suspect flees in a vehicle, you would have no way to give chase.
        I agree, great idea if they make sure there are mobile units very close at all times!

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        • #5
          I hate the idea. I think it's also a safety issue.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by robinbregan View Post
            Check this out.

            http://www.policeone.com/police-prod...to-walk-beats/

            ATLANTA — The Atlanta City Council on Monday voted to put rookie police officers on foot and bicycle patrols in high-crime neighborhoods.

            The council also passed a resolution urging the police department to create a permanent foot patrol unit.

            Councilman Ceasar Mitchell suggested the foot patrol idea in October to slow a rise in crime in Atlanta. Police department figures show an increase last year from 2006 by about 20 percent in categories such as homicide, robbery, auto theft and burglary.

            "We want to see a sustained foot patrol presence in our communities," Mitchell said after Monday's vote.

            Mitchell proposed putting officers who graduate from the next police academy class in the police department's two zones with the highest crime rates in serious categories like murder. The officers would work in those zones for eight weeks and then be moved into regular duties.

            Last year, Zones 1 and 4 had the highest crime totals in most major categories, according to police department data. Zone 1 is located in west-central Atlanta. Zone 4 is southwest Atlanta.

            Future police academy graduates would be dispatched to the city's four other police zones.

            Mitchell rejected criticism that the City Council should not be involved in setting policy for the police department.

            "I strongly feel community policing is an important approach for our community," he said.

            Mitchell said the recruits in the current police academy class would participate in the program.

            Copyright 2008 The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

            Absolutely ridiculous that city council is setting police policy. I would like to read this ordinance first hand. If it is indeed after academy graduation, these officers wouldn't have even completed FTO. What a liability, not to mention the safety concerns of putting a rookie officer in a foot beat in the highest crime areas of the city. This is a recipe for disaster. I wonder how long it will be before the first foot beat officer is involved in a shooting or is injured. My guess, is not long.
            "Would I ever leave this company? Look, I'm all about loyalty. In fact, I feel like part of what I'm being paid for here is my loyalty. But if there were somewhere else that valued loyalty more highly, I'm going wherever they value loyalty the most. " --Dwight K Schrute (The Office)

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            • #7
              +1 Miked6... How long will it take the first rookie to shoot someone? That is just such a major liability.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by SheriffsIAGirl View Post
                +1 Miked6... How long will it take the first rookie to shoot someone? That is just such a major liability.
                Screw that, I would be more worried about the opposite, being too affraid to deffend oneself seems to be the big problem in the area, too many departments make it seem like a crime if am officer has to use deadly or any other force to defends himself.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by miked6 View Post
                  If it is indeed after academy graduation, these officers wouldn't have even completed FTO. What a liability, not to mention the safety concerns of putting a rookie officer in a foot beat in the highest crime areas of the city.
                  Keep in mind that the academy for APD is over 6 months instead of 12 weeks. They are a little more qualified than a fresh out of POST mandate officer.

                  What would be a good idea, is if they just paired them up. Two rookies must be better than one.

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                  • #10
                    Is this following FTO? I cant imagine an FTO walking a foot beat..lol

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by steve h View Post
                      Screw that, I would be more worried about the opposite, being too affraid to deffend oneself seems to be the big problem in the area, too many departments make it seem like a crime if am officer has to use deadly or any other force to defends himself.
                      And there in lies the problem I have with a lot of police officers mentality. They are more worried about being shot and dont give a rats behind about shooting someone else. When you joined the department, they gave you a gun, stick, and OC spray. that should have been a clue that this job is dangerous.

                      The police are supposed to be here toproteact and SERVE. Many young officers dont care about the serve part. They are anxious to bash heads, but are hesitant to stop and give a little old lady inthe hood directions to the store.

                      I want to be a police officer to help people. Thats ginuine. In the military I learned a thing called selfless service. thats means not to worry about the risks to yu, but definantly worry about the risks to those in your care. Citizens are suposed to be in the care of the police but too many police have this guys opinion that they are there to enforce enforce enforce and not to help.

                      Now please dont misunderstand. I Love the police I am a former cop and currently I am a reserve deputy. But I like police that want to help. I dont like police that only think about bashing heads.

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                      • #12
                        This is nothing new. I was in the academy there for 27 weeks and on FTO for 6 weeks. You don't officially grad the academy until you are done with FTO. Lots of guys from my class walked a foot beat. I did one for almost 3 months before becoming a "roustabout" where I was filling a zone car.

                        We were always doubled or tripled up and we worked the absolute highest crime area in the zone. They dropped us off after roll call and picked us up at the end of the shift. In the summer it was miserable...you feel like you are forgotten out there...the walking dead. The perps know you are new so they're more likely to try you. I remember thinking several times about quitting as this was not why I had become a cop. I hated it. Now the guys that were assigned downtown or to Virginia Highlands...that would be a detail I'd volunteer for.

                        The problem with this is not the foot beat assignment. As someone else said earlier, it's the city council. They should never be allowed to set policy for the PD. Then again, this is APD we're talking about...everything is bass ackwards.
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                        • #13
                          From what I have been told by officers in Lincoln, Nebraska (The third rated party college in the United States) they have a program like this for the downtown area all year around. Two officers are assigned to downtown/bar patrol. They also started using them Segways this last week for the foot patrols.
                          Some people were just dropped on their heads as children more than the rest of us!

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                          • #14
                            Its a stupid idea.

                            Lets see. Even though we sometimes are pulling BEAT cars because we don't have enough people in the Zone lets put the new bodies we need on foot beat where they can't do squat in the LARGEST zone in the city.

                            This isn't downtown and we are a heckuva a lot more spread out than other Zones where footbeats are more successful. The citizens of Z-4 and Z-1 would be better served to have enough people to run a full watch or even better yet cut some of these GINORMOUS beats we have due the annexation(thanks again city council) into something manageable and SAFE.

                            Its freakin dangerous, it is not SAFE because if they get into something we are often strecthed thin (again back to not having enough people to run a full watch sometimes and being a GIANT and crime ridden zone) it may be a minute for someone to get to them.

                            But hey thats too much like right I'm sure the councilman knows better with his vast amount policing experience. People on corners work better downtown where the area is more concentrated it aint gonna work on a single corner on Campbellton.

                            We need smaller beats, with more cars to run those more manageable beats, and a FULLY staffed watch. THEN I can see footbeats working on some hot spots. Instead we are running nonstop to MASSIVE amount callls we have in this zone understaffed while SWORN and TRAINED personnel, are being wasted guarding a corner instead of helping beef up the watch cause a councilman thinks its a good idea.

                            But hey what do I know I only try to put out the raging industrial fire with the garden hose given to me and my comrades.
                            Last edited by ATLien; 05-10-2008, 05:37 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by alpha1906 View Post
                              And there in lies the problem I have with a lot of police officers mentality. They are more worried about being shot and dont give a rats behind about shooting someone else. When you joined the department, they gave you a gun, stick, and OC spray. that should have been a clue that this job is dangerous.

                              The police are supposed to be here toproteact and SERVE. Many young officers dont care about the serve part. They are anxious to bash heads, but are hesitant to stop and give a little old lady inthe hood directions to the store.

                              I want to be a police officer to help people. Thats ginuine. In the military I learned a thing called selfless service. thats means not to worry about the risks to yu, but definantly worry about the risks to those in your care. Citizens are suposed to be in the care of the police but too many police have this guys opinion that they are there to enforce enforce enforce and not to help.

                              Now please dont misunderstand. I Love the police I am a former cop and currently I am a reserve deputy. But I like police that want to help. I dont like police that only think about bashing heads.
                              Protect and serve is the LAPD motto, not every police agency in the country. The mission of all police agencies is maintain public order and obtain voluntary compliance of the law. That is it! The bottom line is, I'm going home every night. The neolithic military mentality that you have to shead blood for your cause, is as archaic as LAPD's protective and serve motto. As much as I love what I do, this is still a J-O-B.
                              "Would I ever leave this company? Look, I'm all about loyalty. In fact, I feel like part of what I'm being paid for here is my loyalty. But if there were somewhere else that valued loyalty more highly, I'm going wherever they value loyalty the most. " --Dwight K Schrute (The Office)

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