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  • TigerCoach
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    alpha1906 - Thank you for your comments! Two years ago, Zone One led the city with the highest crime rate, but last year we had the greatest reduction in crime and are currently leading all the other zones (-22%).

    the1fromgeorgia - The reason most officers do not live in the city is because we are targets. They know we carry guns, bulletproof vests, and other equipment in our vehicles so they are constantly being broken into. That is why I tell officers not to put the blue line stickers on their vehicles or keep their equipment in their vehicles. Other reasons I do not live in the city is because of the public school system and high property tax rates.

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  • the1fromgeorgia
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    My subdivision is about 2 miles from Bolton. I am glad you get great response time but I don't. I also appreciate the job that the Zone 1 officers do and think that the problem is a manpower and management issue. And Bankhead is one of the worst neighborhoods in the city. I can't speak for Bolton Road because I have never seen anything criminal happening on Bolton Road. None of the guys that I know who work for APD live in the city because of the crime issues.

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  • alpha1906
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    Originally posted by the1fromgeorgia View Post
    You dont have the manpower to handle what you already have. My best friend and several of my other friends work for APD (I went through half of the APD academy 10 years ago and keep in touch with a lot of people who I went through with) I live in Zone 1 and get 1 hour response times from the police when the people from the other neighborhoods (bankhead and the bluff) decide to come over to my nice subdivision and cause trouble. I never pay attention to what the media says. Also the media tells about all the people that you all are hiring but not all the people who are leaving the department, so I figure if you hire 200 officers by the end of the year you are really just replacing the ones who have left. So I stand by my statement that you all can't handle what you already have, not a bash on the officers you just dont have the manpower. I also don't listen to statistics either, not sure how long you have been on but APD has a repretation for misclassifying crimes to make the city look better than it actually is.

    I also live in zone one and Ihave great responce time from the APD.I really appreciate them and they are all always helpfu lto me and my family.

    btw I love how folks stereotype bankhead and Bolton as if these are the wrost neighborhoods in the city.

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  • alpha1906
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    Originally posted by jannino View Post
    Best way to solve this problem is to dissolve fulton co PD and not let the SO on the roads
    wouldnt it be easier just to put everyone on the same digital system. Why dissolve an entire department when you could just update their radio equipment?

    btw,why are they still on Analog? Thats an issue the higher ups need to hash out

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  • JYoung
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    Originally posted by the1fromgeorgia View Post
    You dont have the manpower to handle what you already have. My best friend and several of my other friends work for APD (I went through half of the APD academy 10 years ago and keep in touch with a lot of people who I went through with) I live in Zone 1 and get 1 hour response times from the police when the people from the other neighborhoods (bankhead and the bluff) decide to come over to my nice subdivision and cause trouble. I never pay attention to what the media says. Also the media tells about all the people that you all are hiring but not all the people who are leaving the department, so I figure if you hire 200 officers by the end of the year you are really just replacing the ones who have left. So I stand by my statement that you all can't handle what you already have, not a bash on the officers you just dont have the manpower. I also don't listen to statistics either, not sure how long you have been on but APD has a repretation for misclassifying crimes to make the city look better than it actually is.
    I'm pretty much gonna go with ask and ye shall receive...I answer calls every day from airheads who buy 200-300k houses in new subdivisions in high crime areas of Atlanta

    NEWSFLASH..The reason that 3500 sq. ft., 6 bedroom house in that new subdivision off of Bolton Rd is priced at $180,000...is b/c it's on BOLTON RD

    "Yeah officer, I see all those thugs with their pants around their ankles, and I hear sirens/gunshots everyday, and I see the prostitutes and the drug houses...but..but..something told me this was a good spot for my Yanni-listening, Honda Odyssey-driving, Brooks Brothers-wearing family to live"
    Last edited by JYoung; 10-02-2009, 01:57 AM. Reason: *note...I am not in any way saying I don't like Yanni...and wtf is a "repretation"

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  • the1fromgeorgia
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    Tiger Coach I will pm you, I dont want this to appear to be an argurment

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  • TigerCoach
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    I have been with the department 5 years and have been assigned to Zone One the entire time. If you are having problems in your neighborhood, I welcome you to come see me at the precinct and we will deal with your issues or I can point you in the right direction.

    As far as your manpower point, is the APD short-staffed? Absolutely! But you know, we get it done with what we have.

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  • the1fromgeorgia
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    Originally posted by TigerCoach View Post
    We can't handle the areas we already have? Crime is down 12% citywide from 2008 and there are a few zones down around 20%. Not sure what was meant by the comment. The perception might be that crime is up due to the media always bashing us, but facts are facts.

    The department is headed in the right direction, except for our pay issues. Patrol rifles and Tasers should be coming which should boost morale a bit. New leadership is what is drastically needed right now.
    You dont have the manpower to handle what you already have. My best friend and several of my other friends work for APD (I went through half of the APD academy 10 years ago and keep in touch with a lot of people who I went through with) I live in Zone 1 and get 1 hour response times from the police when the people from the other neighborhoods (bankhead and the bluff) decide to come over to my nice subdivision and cause trouble. I never pay attention to what the media says. Also the media tells about all the people that you all are hiring but not all the people who are leaving the department, so I figure if you hire 200 officers by the end of the year you are really just replacing the ones who have left. So I stand by my statement that you all can't handle what you already have, not a bash on the officers you just dont have the manpower. I also don't listen to statistics either, not sure how long you have been on but APD has a repretation for misclassifying crimes to make the city look better than it actually is.

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  • TigerCoach
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    We can't handle the areas we already have? Crime is down 12% citywide from 2008 and there are a few zones down around 20%. Not sure what was meant by the comment. The perception might be that crime is up due to the media always bashing us, but facts are facts.

    The department is headed in the right direction, except for our pay issues. Patrol rifles and Tasers should be coming which should boost morale a bit. New leadership is what is drastically needed right now.

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  • ATLPD3635
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    Originally posted by the1fromgeorgia View Post
    And now that I am thinking about it APD cant handle the areas they already have why should/would they take on more?

    Why should they? Your right they shouldn't. Why would they? For the taxes ofcourse. SW Z-4 atlanta has grown tremendously in the past 4yrs. Slowly Atlanta keeps picking up more and more of unincorporated Fulton Co. It happens so fast one day you know that you only handle calls in the parking lot of a certain business but the actually store is on Fulton PD. Then you come in next week and find that your answering calls in the parking lot and inside the store. Lol (true story) There are 6 zones but they have rumored to make a z-7 but we dont have enough officers to supply the zones we have now. But if they pick it I wont mind I love the Idea of my jurisdiction expanding

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  • jannino
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    Originally posted by the1fromgeorgia View Post
    So when you dissolve the Fulton Co. PD who should police the area? Maybe a Metro police department would be a good solution to a lot of the problems.
    It was sort of a joke...

    In all seriousness it could and probably should be done though... Fulton Co has a police department, sheriff's department, and a marshals unit.

    Once the economy picks up unincorporated parts in south fulton will want their own city or College Park could annex it. The parts to the east and west can easily be annexed into the city of Atlanta.

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  • the1fromgeorgia
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    And now that I am thinking about it APD cant handle the areas they already have why should/would they take on more?

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  • the1fromgeorgia
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    I am sure that no one wants Fulton Industrial and what about the southern area of College Park and the southern most areas of South Fulton Parkway/Cascade Campbellton road intersection and everything west and south of it.

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  • ATLPD3635
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    Originally posted by the1fromgeorgia View Post
    So when you dissolve the Fulton Co. PD who should police the area? Maybe a Metro police department would be a good solution to a lot of the problems.
    Just annex the unincorporated parts of the county to the cities that want it. For example the parts over near camp creek pkwy that are on Fulton PD might as well become City of East Point. Casade RD west of 285 is on Fulton PD which goes all the way to FIB to the Cobb Co line might as well be annexed to City of Atlanta. And ETC
    At one point it looked as if it was heading that direction which is what happened to North Fulton county which is actually trying to leave the county as a whole and be a part of Milton Co...lol which it just may happen.

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  • the1fromgeorgia
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    So when you dissolve the Fulton Co. PD who should police the area? Maybe a Metro police department would be a good solution to a lot of the problems.

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