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  • #16
    Thanks all this is a very complicated question that tells what type of officer you have the tendency to be. One that jumps to conclusions or one that gathers the facts of what you see. I just hope I passed this interview so that I can pass the PAT on Saturday. Should I call the agency HR rep that made the appointments to see if I passed if I haven't heard anything by friday at noon?

    Update: The Agency called me up and i didn't make it past the interview phase. I didn't fail bad i just didn't get high enough to pass is what they said.
    Last edited by natejpg; 07-24-2008, 06:34 PM.
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    • #17
      I had a question I felt was designed to see what kind of cop I would be.

      It was basically about me and another officer handling an incident together and him writing in his report that a piece of critical evidence had been in "plain sight", so he didn't need consent for the search. I know that it was NOT in plain sight.

      I answered that my first assumption was that the other officer had simply made a mistake of fact. I have myself been so busy with calls that they sometimes seemed to run together when I wrote my reports.

      I would assume he had made a mistake and would point it out to him.

      If he insisted he was correct, I would review any recordings, etc., which might be available, since I could have also made a mistake. If I was wrong, I would make the necessary corrections in my report.

      If I was sure of myself and knew that I was indeed correct, I would write my report the way I remember it and he can do it the way he remembers it.

      All in all, unless I have some type of evidence that he is writing a false report, there is nothing I can do. It's a job for the suspect's attorney.

      The point I am making is that you can't just assume there was sexual harassment going on. Like others have already said, you need more information.
      Those who are successful at what they do don't give a rip about what others think about them.

      We don't rent pigs.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by barkalot View Post
        I had a question I felt was designed to see what kind of cop I would be.

        It was basically about me and another officer handling an incident together and him writing in his report that a piece of critical evidence had been in "plain sight", so he didn't need consent for the search. I know that it was NOT in plain sight.

        I answered that my first assumption was that the other officer had simply made a mistake of fact. I have myself been so busy with calls that they sometimes seemed to run together when I wrote my reports.

        I would assume he had made a mistake and would point it out to him.

        If he insisted he was correct, I would review any recordings, etc., which might be available, since I could have also made a mistake. If I was wrong, I would make the necessary corrections in my report.

        If I was sure of myself and knew that I was indeed correct, I would write my report the way I remember it and he can do it the way he remembers it.

        All in all, unless I have some type of evidence that he is writing a false report, there is nothing I can do. It's a job for the suspect's attorney.

        The point I am making is that you can't just assume there was sexual harassment going on. Like others have already said, you need more information.
        Thanks I never had thought about that and I probably wouldn't have thought that way for an answer. Does anyone have any more questions that wouldbe unique or difficult to answer?
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        • #19
          There may have also been one other question of that type in the same oral board. I believe it may have been a scenario where I was still in training and that prior to going out on patrol, I smell alcohol on the FTO's breath.

          I answered that I would approach him about it and suggest maybe he's "too sick" to work that night.

          If he brushed me off, I would then report it to the sergeant because it's a safety issue for me, the FTO and everybody else we have contact with.

          Another good answer may have been that I would approach him and mention smelling "cough syrup or something" on his breath. Then follow up with suggesting he might be "too sick" to work.

          Either way, the idea I had was looking for a way to handle the situation on a personal level and in a way that leaves the FTO's dignity intact.

          If he won't allow me to do that, then I guess I have to do what I have to do.

          Now that I am thinking, there was another one where I had just graduated from the academy and I go to a party at a friend's house. At some point, I look across the room and see what looks like my friend snorting a line of cocaine. What do I do?

          I answered that first if all, that I do not have friends like that, but for the sake of argument I would realize that I am not a police officer just because I graduated from an academy. My meaning was that I am not necessarily bound by any kind of code of ethics or department policy.

          I then stated that I would first ask my friend about it, because people do stupid things at parties, especially after drinking and he could have been snorting a Pixie stick.

          If I found it it was cocaine, our relationship would definitely change. If he showed remorse and a desire to change (like maybe claiming he is addicted), I would help him get any help he needed.

          Anyway, sometimes I think they are looking for that balance between being a cop and reporting everything to a higher-up and being human and trying to solve the problem in a personal way.

          I scored over a 94% on that oral board, so I assume they liked some of what I said.
          Those who are successful at what they do don't give a rip about what others think about them.

          We don't rent pigs.

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          • #20
            You failed to answer that question correcty because you just went to the Sgt which frankly did not need to be done at all. What you did not do is consult the officer in question to find out what was going on and tell her that you would be willing to be a witness if she needed one.

            Going to the Sgt shows lack of leadership on your part. He is the SGT. so you mindlesly go to him as he is in charge. But you should know he is not goign to tell you to make a report, so then you show a lack of character by letting him tell you to back off. You should have known thats what he would do and by doing it you showed you take the easy road. Dont go to the person who may get you involved in a drawn out situtatuion that could put your career on the line. Instead go to the offender let him know you cought him in the act but arent going to do anything about it. So you now become a co conspirator.

            What if you see your FTO beat the heck out of somebody for no reason? Ask him if you should report him? If you saw a liquer store being robbed who would you let tell you what to do, the robber or the victim?

            If you want to become a cop, stop looking for the right answer and start looking for the right attitude. Build your character.
            Last edited by Garbage Man; 07-27-2008, 02:44 PM.
            Originally posted by FJDave
            GM, you have just set the bar that much higher for the rest of us in our witty, sarcastic responses. I yield to you! Good job, kind Sir!

            District B13
            "We are not cops nor Feds." yet he still poses as an officer Hmmmm


            Grant us grace, fearlessly, to contend against evil and to make no peace with oppression.--WWII memorial

            "I have loved justice and hated iniquity, therefore I die in exile."

            Pope Gregory V II

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            • #21
              Thanks so much Garbage Man. After I left I was thinking why did i back off and say that I'd consider it a direct order. That's definately not what I would have done in that situation. I have another one I'd like your opinion on my answer can I PM you?
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              • #22
                go right ahead
                Originally posted by FJDave
                GM, you have just set the bar that much higher for the rest of us in our witty, sarcastic responses. I yield to you! Good job, kind Sir!

                District B13
                "We are not cops nor Feds." yet he still poses as an officer Hmmmm


                Grant us grace, fearlessly, to contend against evil and to make no peace with oppression.--WWII memorial

                "I have loved justice and hated iniquity, therefore I die in exile."

                Pope Gregory V II

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