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  • Is self-sponoring at Rio Hondo Police Academy worth it?

    thank you all for sharing
    Last edited by EJG300; 08-06-2020, 12:23 AM.

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    Paying out of your own pocket to attend an academy isn't going to help you pass an oral board interview.

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      yeah I understand, as I’ve been told, been practicing my interview skills since then.

  • #3
    Originally posted by EJG300 View Post
    I know this question has been asked before, but most threads go back multiple years and I would like to gain current insights and thoughts on this topic especially with budget cuts and competition. About myself, I've passed written and physical exams from a couple of departments (Irvine and Riverside) but wasn't able to pass the panel interview for Irvine (first experience/unprepared) and had to, unfortunately, opt out of the selection process for Riverside due to an injury. All of this took a while and I would like to expedite the process by self-sponsoring and hopefully getting ahead of the competition. What are the chances of me being recruited during or after the academy?
    Do you have a bachelor's degree or higher? And, obviously, you're not a lateral. Why did you test at IPD? LOL!!!

    What is your education level? How old are you? Who do you live with?

    It's possible you need to get some more life experience (education, military, more job experience, move out of Mommy & Daddy's house) before jumping into a LE career. That's how you "get ahead" of your competition. More life experience=More things to draw from when you are in a panel interview.

    Applicants are going to be scrutinized more than ever (is that even possible??) If you don't believe me, just read this pile of dung:

    https://www.pe.com/2020/08/02/in-the...be-an-officer/

    Last edited by LA1942; 08-02-2020, 11:51 AM.

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      hmm yeah well I just turned 24, graduated not too long ago with a BA in Psychology, have worked at a group home with at-risk youth (social services private sector) for 3 years and currently the facility manager (about a year). This job/position alone has provided sufficient experience and skills than when i first applied.

  • #4
    If you’re a good candidate, I’m not sure why you would need to self sponsor. You’re still going to have to go through the process. There are plenty of departments hiring a lot of people and there are a lot of terrible candidates applying so your chances should be good if you are decent.

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      agree, just don’t won’t to go through it again since its very time consuming

    • LA1942
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      Hmm, yeah, well, I would suggest testing with one of these larger agenices-LASO, LAPD, OCSD-get hired & get paid to train. But, it sounds like you don't want to invest that kind of time. Your chances of getting recruited? None of us know you or your background, so it's hard to say. Best of luck at Rio Hondo.
      Last edited by LA1942; 08-06-2020, 11:31 AM.

  • #5
    Self sponsoring should be your last resort. plus depending on the apartment you get picked up with after, you might have to go through another academy regardless. I might be wrong but i'm pretty sure any Orange County department would require you to go through the OC Sheriffs academy.

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    • #6
      Rio Honda may be the ONLY academy running in the LA Basin for awhile due to massive budget cuts

      Our next academy wont be until October at the earliest (and will most likely not be until next summer the way things are developing)

      Many agencies out here are losing bodies and will not be hiring for a long time.....others are picking up already sworn LEOs that are being laid off behind the budget cuts
      The posts on this forum by this poster are of his personal opinion, and his personal opinion alone

      "Politicians are like diapers. They need to be changed often and for the same reason"

      "We fight not for glory; nor for wealth; nor honor, but only and alone we fight for freedom, which no good man surrenders but with his life"

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      • #7
        Originally posted by FormerPotato View Post
        I might be wrong but i'm pretty sure any Orange County department would require you to go through the OC Sheriffs academy.
        Not true.

        Some OC agencies prefer the OCSD academy. Some OC agencies prefer the GW academy. There are some that don't really like the Rio Hondo academy. Some agencies have hired from a San Diego County academy. It's pretty much a crap shoot.





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        • #8
          I had some time to think and decided to try a few more departments since I’ve only applied to a couple before hand. I’m going to take Rio Hondo’s written again since they were “lost” and going to use it to waive the Pellet B for some agencies if they have it and if I have a passing score. I applied for Azusa, San Diego, Burbank, and Chino so far. San Diego set me up for a 2 day process next month, hopefully I do well in one of these before December (Rio Hondo’s next academy class).

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          • #9
            Originally posted by EJG300 View Post
            I had some time to think and decided to try a few more departments since I’ve only applied to a couple before hand. I’m going to take Rio Hondo’s written again since they were “lost” and going to use it to waive the Pellet B for some agencies if they have it and if I have a passing score. I applied for Azusa, San Diego, Burbank, and Chino so far. San Diego set me up for a 2 day process next month, hopefully I do well in one of these before December (Rio Hondo’s next academy class).
            One thing about smaller agencies (Chino-Azusa) is sometimes they are only hiring one or two bodies. Those one or two bodies may already have some sort of connection to the agency (intern, cadet, dispatcher, related to someone, etc.)

            I would definitely get started with the bigger agencies. Always possible to get close to a hire date from August to December (depends on how quickly the agencies test & the length of your background investigation.) I've known recruits who were hired at LAPD & OCSD, in, as little as, two to three months. You can always be in the process with a bigger agency, start as a self-sponsored recruit in December, and possibly get hired, with the bigger agency along the way. Even if you had to start the academy over again, it would be worth it. Gotta go where you're going to get paid.

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            • EJG300
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              do you know anything about SDPD? cant seem to find anything

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            What do you want to know about SDPD?

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            • EJG300
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              Do they have a good reputation? I’ve heard that they are one of the lowest paid departments in Southern California (not that it’s a problem) and hurting for bodies, but why would that be the case?

          • #11
            To play devils advocate, with the budget issues and calls to defund the police, could we be headed into a time like during the recession where self sponsoring was beneficial?

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            • #12
              Originally posted by Mufasa556 View Post
              To play devils advocate, with the budget issues and calls to defund the police, could we be headed into a time like during the recession where self sponsoring was beneficial?
              No. Departments were already having extreme difficulty recruiting for the last 3 years. This was before the current climate. Departments are starving for applicants. There is a department in my county that is offering a $25,000 hiring bonus for laterals and academy grads for over 2 years now. They still have not met their hiring goals.

              If you are interested in law enforcement, get hired as a recruit.

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              • #13
                If I were you, I wouldn't self sponser into an academy...especially Rio Hondo. That academy doesn't have a good reputation. I'm not going to go into their history, just look them up in past threads. Self sponsoring costs about $5K+ and you have to purchase all your own uniforms, gear and gun. Plus you have to invest your own time for the next six months and not get paid for it. That entire six months is devoted to the academy, studying and writing memos every night. There is no time for a part-time job to support yourself. In addition, there is no guarantee you're going to complete the academy sucessfully. Some academies have a 50% wash-out rate for various reasons (double-tap on an exam, failed qualifications, injury, etc.). And if you are one of those unfortunate recruits that wash out...you've lost all that time and money invested into the program.

                There are plenty of agencies that are hiring not only laterals or academy graduates, but also recruits. If you can't get into a PD, try a Sheriff's Department. If your ultimate goal is to work at a small PD (which is strange unless you're near retirement), then you can always lateral after working at a Sheriff's Department for a year or two. Ultimately, it all depends on what you really want to do in LE. For example, LAPD and CHP have their own academy. If you want to work for CHP, you must attend their academy. If you want to work at OCSD, you must attend their academy, unless you already have your Basic POST cert.

                Good luck to you.
                "Think about the consequences before you mess with a Deputy Sheriff."

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                • EJG300
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                  thanks for your response, but wouldn’t agencies save a lot more money by looking into academies for self sponsors especially when I’m not liability like you’ve mentioned. If I don’t continue due to injury or scores then it’s on me, no loss for them. I’ve heard that a lot of self sponsors have been “scouted” from various departments and selected instead of hiring a recruit (obviously with passing the process). Financially, I’m stable and would be fine especially with help from a family member.

              • #14
                Anyone have tips on the interview process? Been practicing, but would help if I can get some feedback. My background has been completed before and came out fine, but it’s the interview questions where I seem to have trouble. If someone can DM me and help with my questions that would be great.
                Last edited by EJG300; 08-12-2020, 05:57 PM.

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                • #15
                  It’s important that you understand most of these situational questions are more about a persons thought process and not just whatever answer. Sure, you can go in there and say the safe answer, “Of course I would write my mother a ticket, no one is above the law.” But is that really what you would do?

                  I know when I sit on oral boards I appreciate when someone gives me an honest answer compared to just having a rehearsed interview answer. It helps me make a better decision on a person versus having to wait until the person is out of the academy and sitting in the back row of roll call drinking BCAAs while on training.

                  (I guess I need to say it, yes you need to practice your interview. But you want your answers to come across as if you are having a conversation instead of being a robot)

                  I recommend looking up what spirit of the law vs letter of the law means and see if it applies to this specific example. This is something that will hopefully stay with you throughout your career (unless you become a motor ).
                  Last edited by b1ub0x; 08-09-2020, 12:13 AM.

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                  • EJG300
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                    thanks! if i remember correctly, i said that i'd give a warning if it was a first offense, but a ticket if it was more than 10mph the speed limit or if it was reoccurring.

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