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  • mezaD432
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    Do you happen to know of a good attorney who can help me with my appeal?

  • mezaD432
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    Hi, I was disqualified from moving forward. The reasons given were more subjective and irrelevant. My BI made a lot of mistakes in presenting his arguments of why I was disqualified and to the point where accused me of non factual data. I would like to appeal my DQ. Do you happen to know attorneys who can help?

  • Robertinho37
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    And yet you understood it enough to reply back.............like i said my shoes are new, shine your own.

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  • CCCSD
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    Reading comprehension is beyond your ability.

    Go shine your shoes some more.

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  • Robertinho37
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    Originally posted by CCCSD View Post

    They aren’t biased. They are making sure the candidate fits. Just because YOU got DQd doesn’t mean the system is the problem. The problem is YOU. YOU failed to meet the criteria so YOU were booted.

    That is why we don’t allow candidates to be in charge of anything except filling out forms.

    Take your chip, and go shine some shoes. Here’s a shinebox to help you learn a trade.


    So with the same criteria he was hired somewhere else as he should of been either way to begin with. Ironically it ended up working better for him and im proud of him. Like i said its a mind game, but one has to keep goin, indeed.

    My shoes are quite new, they dont need any shining just yet.

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  • Dt1911
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    All good. I was hired by another agency and i am sure glad to be out of CA atthe moment lol.

  • Mike_vaughn
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    Last edited by Mike_vaughn; 02-07-2022, 04:00 PM.

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  • cruz0311
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    In my past experience as a background investigator, I can tell you I never DQ anyone just because, in fact the Department and County HR wont buy off a DQ just because. We had to have solid facts as to why we submitted you for a DQ. Now, a oral board is a different story and that is where I think most smaller departments can pick and choose more carefully in what they want.

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  • Mike_vaughn
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    How far into the process did you get?

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  • CCCSD
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    Originally posted by Robertinho37 View Post


    And from your point of view did the specifics merit your disqualification in general to begin with? I say that with the sense that nobody knows themselves more than his or her own self. Departments always give you a chance to appeal for the most part, but are at the very end biased and one sided to begin with, with little to no chance at all to win. I am glad you appealed it because most people would not do such a thing. Remember it is a mind game, from the beginning to the end, you have to show them how badly you want it, and even then some more. Remember...............things are now what they seem to be at certain time, keep your head up.
    They aren’t biased. They are making sure the candidate fits. Just because YOU got DQd doesn’t mean the system is the problem. The problem is YOU. YOU failed to meet the criteria so YOU were booted.

    That is why we don’t allow candidates to be in charge of anything except filling out forms.

    Take your chip, and go shine some shoes. Here’s a shinebox to help you learn a trade.

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  • Robertinho37
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    Originally posted by Dt1911 View Post

    I submitted it on my own...maybe that's where I f'd up. My BI and case manager actually gave me the specifics on why I was disqualified. My BI helped me through the process, but I still lost.

    And from your point of view did the specifics merit your disqualification in general to begin with? I say that with the sense that nobody knows themselves more than his or her own self. Departments always give you a chance to appeal for the most part, but are at the very end biased and one sided to begin with, with little to no chance at all to win. I am glad you appealed it because most people would not do such a thing. Remember it is a mind game, from the beginning to the end, you have to show them how badly you want it, and even then some more. Remember...............things are now what they seem to be at certain time, keep your head up.

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  • Dt1911
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    Originally posted by ab1992 View Post

    Glad you were able to find another department. Did you have legal assistance for your appeal or did you just submit it on your own?
    I submitted it on my own...maybe that's where I f'd up. My BI and case manager actually gave me the specifics on why I was disqualified. My BI helped me through the process, but I still lost.

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  • ab1992
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    Originally posted by Dt1911 View Post
    I went through the appeal process with LAPD a few years ago and was disqualified for life. I'm currently a police officer at another agency and couldn't be happier...especially during these times. Appeal and see how it goes, if it doesnt work out, move on to the next agency.
    Glad you were able to find another department. Did you have legal assistance for your appeal or did you just submit it on your own?

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  • ab1992
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    Originally posted by L-1 View Post
    It won't hurt to ask. All he can say is No.

    I would phrase it in terms of, If I've done something wrong, I need to know what it is so I can make corrections in my lifestyle and become a viable candidate in the future. OTOH, if it turns out I didn't do anything wrong, I need a chance to clear up any misunderstanding.

    Above all, if he tells you anything, don't argue with him. This is not the place to hold court.

    The big reason for not telling you is that when people talk to them, they are given your waiver and a sheet from the PD promising anonymity in what they say to them. They agency you apply with will always be unsure if what they provide to you will violate that promise of anonymity.

    I don't know about LAPD, but in my agency the criteria for DQ was very broad and open to interpretation. for example -

    All candidates for, appointees to, and employees in the civil service shall possess the general qualifications of integrity, honesty, sobriety, dependability, industry, thoroughness, accuracy, good judgment, initiative, resourcefulness, courtesy, ability to work cooperatively with others, willingness and ability to assume the responsibilities and to conform to the conditions of work characteristic of the employment, and a state of health, consistent with the ability to perform the assigned duties of the class. Where the position requires the driving of an automobile, the employee must have a valid state driver's license, a good driving record and is expected to drive the car safely. The foregoing general qualifications shall be deemed to be a part of the personal characteristics of the minimum qualifications of each class specification and need not be specifically set forth therein. The board may prescribe alternative or additional qualifications for individual classes and such shall be made a part of the class specifications.

    It's easy to diaqualify under any of the above provisions for even the slightest issue in one's life or work history. Too many errors in your Personal History statement can be looked at as dishonesty, lack of thoroughness, lack of accuracy, or the one I always liked, the inability to read and follow simple written instructions.



    Great!! This was very helpful. i really really appreciate the input. Think i may try my shot with an appeal and see where it takes me!
    Last edited by ab1992; 06-16-2020, 09:58 AM.

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  • Dt1911
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    I went through the appeal process with LAPD a few years ago and was disqualified for life. I'm currently a police officer at another agency and couldn't be happier...especially during these times. Appeal and see how it goes, if it doesnt work out, move on to the next agency.

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