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    Hello all, any information on this Department? I found a thread on here but it's over 10 years old. This specific listing is for the facility in Costa Mesa.

    https://www.calcareers.ca.gov/CalHrP...ntrolId=137776

  • #2
    I’d pass if I were you. They are sworn under the same penal code as State Hospital Police. This is more a security guard job if anything.

    Also it says they require a basic post academy but the agency itself is not post certified. Meaning your post academy certificate will expire after working 3 years with them.

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    • orlandofed5-0
      orlandofed5-0 commented
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      This is from the website.. sounds like they get POST certification..

      OPS is a Commission on Peace Officer Standards and Training (POST) participating agency. POST was established by the Legislature in 1959 to set minimum selection and training standards for California law enforcement.

    • NorCalAspirant
      NorCalAspirant commented
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      I saw that but they don’t show up in the List of POST participating agencies on the POST website.

  • #3
    https://www.dds.ca.gov/OPS/
    I don't answer recruitment messages....

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    • #4
      They are basically unarmed State Hospital Police who primary function is to deal with out of control mental patients. I have not interacted with them in several years, however when I did, as a matter of operating policy they kept their officers from engaging in even the most minor police work (other than taking cold reports) and tried to get either Costa Mesa PD or CHP to handle matters for them. Both agencies routinely declined unless it was a major crime.

      Basically, you are looking at an agency that deals with so little crime that when something occurs, they lack the epertise and training necessary to handle it. There is nothing more frightening to a supervisor or manager than having to be responsible for something they haven't the foggiest idea how to handle, so sometimes their response is to have you do nothing. You will find that in a lot of the PC 830.4 jobs.
      Going too far is half the pleasure of not getting anywhere

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      • #5
        DSS Dept. of Development Services will send you to a regular basic academy as opposed to DMH Dept. of Mental Health who send their folks to an in-house non-POST academy. I know folks who have used DSS as a stepping stone to get a basic POST cert. and lateral over to a local agency. You will basically be providing security services to the facility your assigned too. Fairview Development Center will be closing soon and I think a majority of the centers statewide will follow suit. DSS has sworn peace officers providing security and sworn investigators assigned to their centers.

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        • #6
          Thanks for all the info guys, it's very helpful. I looked into it further looks like they only hire academy graduates. They don't have a "recruit" position. I guess there is unpredictable stability if the state is closing the facility.

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          • #7
            They do show up on the POST website as CA CA Department of Developmental Services https://www.dds.ca.gov/OPS/
            I'd rather be judged by 12 rather carried by 6.

            It should be noted that any and all post that are made are based on my own thought and opinions. And are not related or implied to represent the department I work for.

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            • NorCalAspirant
              NorCalAspirant commented
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              Yeah I see it now. I looked under office of protective services before.

          • #8
            Looks like they're still around. Any idea info on the future of this agency?

            https://dds.ca.gov/services/state-facilities/ops/

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            • #9
              Most of the busy facilities will remain open for now...so DSS will be around for the foreseeable future.

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              • #10
                They have been scandal ridden for over 35 years and nothing has happened yet. They will probably continue on as they have for another 35 years.

                I suspect the only way anything will happen to them is if a whistle blower takes a solid case to one of the local TV news stations that has a crusading reporter who has made a reputation out of exposing corruption in government. If they do their homework, double check everything and and blast it in the nightly news for a couple weeks, then you might see change. Then the agency might be disbanded and CHP assume responsibility for carrying out their role. That will be interesting. (Hey Sarge, none of the laws governing operation of a mental hospital are in the Vehicle Code. What do we do?)
                Going too far is half the pleasure of not getting anywhere

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                • #11
                  I drove an ambulance in LA/OC for nearly a decade and had been to the Fairview and Norwalk many times. I had no idea they were two different agencies.

                  Reading up on it, I understand that Department of Developmental Services protects people who are physically and/mentally disabled whereas the Department of Hospital Services is more custodial oriented for people who are deemed criminally insane.

                  Why are two different agencies employing hospital peace officers, but one requires a POST academy and the other just does their own PC832 thing? Why isn’t this just different job duties of the same agency/department? It’s a Ca State thing isn’t it?

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                  • moparfan
                    moparfan commented
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                    Dude really, that would make way to much sense

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