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  • #16
    Originally posted by A380 View Post

    So what you’re saying is since in 2019: March, May, August, November had 5 weeks in them you’re working an extra week for the same amount of pay?
    No. The state has broken the year into 12 "Near Equal" pay periods. Near Equal means they try to even out the number of hours worked in each pay period, taking into consideration how many days off there are in that pay period and where those days off fall in relation to the start and end of the month. Paid holidays are looked at as hours worked.

    There were 31 days in the March 2019 pay period. 4.43 weeks, 21 Work days, 168 hours worked

    There were 30 days in the May 2019 pay period. 4.28 weeks, 22 work days, 176 hours worked

    There were 30 days in the August 2019 pay period. 4.28 weeks, 22 Work days, 176 hours worked

    There were 31 days in the November 2019 pay period, 4.43 weeks, 22 work days, 176 hours worked

    To get a better feel of the pay periods, number of days, number of hours, take a look at

    https://www.documents.dgs.ca.gov/dgs/fmc/pdf/std640.pdf

    It shows their breakdown for both 2019 and (scroll down) 2020.
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    • #17
      Pay period doesn't necessarily change salary. You just have to make sure you're comparing apples to apples.

      The three most popular are Bi-weekly, paid for every 80 hours, 26 pay periods. Semi-monthly, paid for every 86.6 hours, 24 pay periods. And monthly 173 hours, 12 near equal pay periods.

      You have three people getting paid $60,000 year for 2080 hours.

      A gets 26 checks a year, for $2,308 twice a month*
      B gets 24 checks a year, for $2,500 twice a month
      C gets 12 checks a year, for $5,000 a month

      Any way you split it they're all making $28.85 an hour, or $60K a year.


      Your friend wasn't getting paid less because he would've been only getting 12 checks a month. It sounds like he went from 26 checks a year at $2500 to 12 checks a year at $5000. Which is $65,000 vs $60,000 or a 8% decrease, which is exactly what you said. The easiest thing to do is compare hourly rate.
      Last edited by A380; 12-28-2019, 03:18 AM.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by A380 View Post
        Pay period doesn't necessarily change salary. You just have to make sure you're comparing apples to apples.

        The three most popular are Bi-weekly, paid for every 80 hours, 26 pay periods. Semi-monthly, paid for every 86.6 hours, 24 pay periods. And monthly 173 hours, 12 near equal pay periods.

        You have three people getting paid $60,000 year for 2080 hours.

        A gets 26 checks a year, for $2,308 twice a month*
        B gets 24 checks a year, for $2,500 twice a month
        C gets 12 checks a year, for $5,000 a month

        Any way you split it they're all making $28.85 an hour, or $60K a year.


        Your friend wasn't getting paid less because he would've been only getting 12 checks a month. It sounds like he went from 26 checks a year at $2500 to 12 checks a year at $5000. Which is $65,000 vs $60,000 or a 8% decrease, which is exactly what you said. The easiest thing to do is compare hourly rate.
        You've kind of got the point I was trying to make.

        When it comes to pay, people often fail to consider that a month is around 4.34 weeks. Instead, because they get paid every two weeks in California, they tend to think of a month as being only four weeks. If you ask people what they make per month, most won't quote pay scales. Instead, they will multiply their last paycheck X2 and tell you that is their monthly salary, because that is what they get and that is what they believe.

        Then, they switch to State service where they do not get half the promised salary every two weeks. Instead, they get all of it once every 4.34 weeks. This is when they come to realize that they have been hoodwinking themselves as to what they really made in their prior jobs, by counting four weeks as a month and feel they have just taken a huge pay cut.

        It's all in their mindset. They just need to know ahead of time what's going on. As with my friend, he was counting 4 weeks pay to be his monthly salary with his old agency. When he compared 4.34 weeks pay at his old agency against his new state salary, only then did he realize how much of a financial hit he'd taken.

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