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  • Budget committee suggests furlough days for LAPD officers, certain firefighters

    A Los Angeles City Council committee voted Tuesday to recommend six furlough days for police officers and certain firefighters in January if labor talks are unproductive in the coming months.

    The proposal was the single biggest change made by the council’s Budget and Finance Committee to Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa’s proposed 2011-12 budget.

    Committee members said they did not favor Villaraigosa’s plan to borrow $42.6 million to get through the coming year. So they replaced that plan with a series of new cuts, including unpaid days off for sworn police officers and “special duty” firefighters -- those who are assigned to desk jobs.

    Chief Legislative Analyst Gerry Miller, who advises the council on policy, said in his 42-page budget report that scheduling the furloughs for January would give city officials time to work with public safety unions to find other alternatives. But he also said the furloughs were a better option than borrowing to balance the budget.

    “The city has never had to resort to deficit financing in the past to balance its budget, and it should only be pursued if there are no other viable options,” he wrote.

    Councilman Paul Koretz, who voted for the plan, said the furlough concept was one of several “lousy” options in this year’s budget.

    “Given all the other choices, it seemed like a fair thing to do,” he said. “The LAPD is at an all-time high in personnel and crime is very low. If we have to make a difficult choice, a few furlough days is as good as any.”

    Pat McOsker, president of the United Firefighters Los Angeles City Local 112, said the furlough plan would be bad for public safety. He said he doubted that the furloughs would ultimately happen.

    Villaraigosa’s budget will be presented to the full council on Friday, with voting taking place next

  • #2
    Because reducing the number of officers on the street won't result in an increase in crime.

    Knobs.
    Other officer: Oh that's right, I forgot, you're God's gift to police work.
    Me: At least someone recognizes it.

    Turns out basic police work isn't so hard, you just have to leave the station.

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    • #3
      More cops = less crime.

      Makes sense to me, just like living off of Fast Food makes people skinny.

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      • #4
        Or they could just stop hiring people......
        "For he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer." Romans 13:4

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        • #5
          Ive already furloughed 120 hrs in the last 18 months. Depts all over the state are sending officers packing and all they want is 6 days? Sounds like a pretty good deal.

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          • #6
            I find this very sad. We overspent when times were good and are paying the price when we really need to keep law enforcement numbers up. There is a clear resurgence in violent crime against police officers, and we can expect further increases once California is forced to release thousands of felons from prison.
            Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. -- Aldous Huxley
            Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. -- Albert Einstein

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            • #7
              Originally posted by b1ub0x View Post
              Councilman Paul Koretz, who voted for the plan, said the furlough concept was one of several “lousy” options in this year’s budget.

              “Given all the other choices, it seemed like a fair thing to do,” he said. “The LAPD is at an all-time high in personnel and crime is very low. If we have to make a difficult choice, a few furlough days is as good as any.”
              "Fair"? Sorry Councilman, but maybe it's time to set some priorities? If eliminating certain non-essential city services keeps public safety personnel doing their jobs, then maybe "fair" is less important than doing what's right. Government's first mandate is to provide basic protections via law enforcement, paramedic and firefighting functions. There are some things (ie: Arts projects, city sponsored athletic events, etc...) that can and should be discontinued.
              "I'm not fluent in the language of violence, but I know enough to get around in places where it's spoken."

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              • #8
                Things to do to save money to avoid making us take days off:


                they could do away with the 40 person staff that publishes the stupid "el pueblo" employee news letter...I have been getting it for years and have yet to have read it once....

                They could get rid of the "mayors gang violence response team"- a group of paid former thugs who think that because they work for the mayors office the are entitled to enter crime scenes and ignore orders from officers at scene

                For LAPD specific savings: STOP HIRING, make anyone not doing in-service training, go find another division to work (they don't have to come to patrol because they would probably screw something up or annoy the people who actually work) Stop taking complaint of pain T/C reports (refer them to the traffic desk during business hours), Close patrol / traffic desks at night.

                I'm sure I can come up with more but my vacation started today, (a week early courtesy of forced T/O's) so there is beer to be consumed.....
                "For he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer." Romans 13:4

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                • #9
                  ^ AGREE.

                  They should have stopped hiring 2 years ago.
                  Originally Posted by VegasMetro
                  maybe it’s me but I think a six pack and midget porn makes for good times?????

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by mtxpro752 View Post
                    They should have stopped hiring 2 years ago.
                    Villaraigosa also should have held firm in labor negotiations with civilian employees two years ago, and cut civilian positions at that time. LA was short on funds, and it was obvious that the economy was not going to pick up quickly. But the mayor and council were too beholden to the labor unions to do what the city needed.

                    Recent cuts to the City Attorney's office also are going to hurt law enforcement in Los Angeles.
                    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. -- Aldous Huxley
                    Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. -- Albert Einstein

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