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Originally posted by avalon42 View Post
So it documented officer productivity without writing a citation. So a shift commander could enforce “productivityâ€. Now, there may be an unwritten rule, and maybe internal competition between officers to bag more tickets, but it certainly wasnt an implied policy.
Also, with such a practice in place, I would think that PD would be able to fend off a suit similar to this one._____________
"Corruptisima republica plurimae leges."
"The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws."
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Originally posted by SCV-Sop View PostOne of the more productive practices I’ve seen employed by an agency was essentially written warnings. Not a ticket, but the officer documented the date, place, time, offense, and Driver Info and turned it in like a ticket.
So it documented officer productivity without writing a citation. So a shift commander could enforce “productivityâ€. Now, there may be an unwritten rule, and maybe internal competition between officers to bag more tickets, but it certainly wasnt an implied policy.
Also, with such a practice in place, I would think that PD would be able to fend off a suit similar to this one.
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Originally posted by BanditLAPD View PostProblem with that is the CO doesn't get a kickback for written warnings. Yes that's correct each CO of every LAPD division gets a bonus each year based on the number of tickets written....
As far as written warnings go, I believe they are a waste of time. If you're gonna write something, it should be an actual ticket, otherwise, a verbal warning would suffice and move onto the next stop.
This particular captain has had many complaints and lawsuits filed against her while she was in that traffic division. This is only the first to be publicized.
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Originally posted by Se7en View PostNot sure what the issue was... tell the officers to pick up their activity, if they don't, transfer them.
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Originally posted by LA Copper View Post
This particular captain has had many complaints and lawsuits filed against her while she was in that traffic division. This is only the first to be publicized.
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Originally posted by BanditLAPD View PostProblem with that is the CO doesn't get a kickback for written warnings. Yes that's correct each CO of every LAPD division gets a bonus each year based on the number of tickets written....
Literally however, it is more profitable for the city to write municipal citations (parking tickets, dogs on leashes) than it is moving violations._____________
"Corruptisima republica plurimae leges."
"The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws."
- Cornelius Tacitus
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Originally posted by nobodyjr View PostI suspected this was the case. A disaster captain can cause a department more in liability issues than a bad OIS._____________
"Corruptisima republica plurimae leges."
"The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws."
- Cornelius Tacitus
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Originally posted by SCV-Sop View PostLike $2M for a Union disagreement related to ticket writting. Heck man, it's cheaper to put a bullet in the wrong person's head.
On top of that, numbers of tickets written and arrestes made is not a good measure of efficiency or effectiveness. Reduction in traffic collisions is the measure to use concerning traffic, and even if collisions are up, engineering and education have to be looked at as much as enforcement. You can write tickets all day long, but if a road has a design or construction flaw that leads to crashes, writing more cites won't solve the problem.Government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. - Ronald Reagan
I don't think It'll happen in the US because we don't trust our government. We are a country of skeptics, raised by skeptics, founded by skeptics. - Amaroq
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Originally posted by Se7en View PostNot sure what the issue was... tell the officers to pick up their activity, if they don't, transfer them.Molly Weasley makes Chuck Norris eat his vegetables.
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Ticket count is not a good measure of a motor/traffic officers productivity. There were times when my ticket count would fluctuate and I would write half as many as normal. That was because I was working fatals, writing grants, working a motor academy, etc. A good supervisor should know what their officers are doing and adjust performance reviews accordingly. If I have nothing going on I should be writing tickets....if I am busy doing other job related duties then I cant be out writing tickets.
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Originally posted by Fuzz View PostTicket count is not a good measure of a motor/traffic officers productivity. There were times when my ticket count would fluctuate and I would write half as many as normal. That was because I was working fatals, writing grants, working a motor academy, etc. A good supervisor should know what their officers are doing and adjust performance reviews accordingly. If I have nothing going on I should be writing tickets....if I am busy doing other job related duties then I cant be out writing tickets.
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