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  • Southwestern College Police Academy Under POST Review

    Police academy suspends classes

    By Kristina Davis, UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

    Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 12:04 a.m.

    CHULA VISTA — The police academy at Southwestern College has temporarily suspended future classes after an initial investigation found the school may not be complying with state law enforcement testing and teaching requirements, a state official said yesterday.

    The concerns came to light in October, when the California Commission on Police Officer Standards and Training, or POST, launched a routine audit on the academy, said agency spokeswoman Karen Lozito.

    The agency, based in Sacramento, regulates all 39 police academies in the state, ensuring that the testing, teaching and graduation requirements are uniform. Police officers must hold a POST certification before they can work in the state.

    “In the initial stage, we found testing and content may not meet POST standards,” Lozito said.

    Such findings were “unusual” during routine reviews, she said. Specific details were not available.

    The current class of cadets is continuing to train at the Chula Vista college, but new classes, including one that was set to begin Jan. 9, will not be started until the audit is completed, said Mark Meadows, vice president of academic affairs at Southwestern College. The current class is expected to graduate in the spring.

    “We have one in session and everything is still in order,” Meadows said. “We are waiting for the final report.”

    Academies are regulated in several areas, including requirements on testing, teaching content, safety, learning environment and staffing. For example, all academies in the state must spend at least 60 hours teaching arrest methods and defensive tactics, four hours on sex crimes, and 12 hours on search and seizure.

    The audits are performed every three years, so investigators now have the task of analyzing the past three years of teaching to determine how far back the issues go.

    Authorities did not give an estimated completion date, saying the review process is a “lengthy” one. Depending on the severity of the problems uncovered, the academy could be suspended temporarily or, at worst, lose its POST certification altogether.

    “We definitely want to work with them to get them up to standards,” Lozito said.

    Meadows said the school is cooperating fully with the review to make sure the academy is in full compliance.

    The college staff will have an opportunity to appeal the agency’s final report, Lozito said.

    Depending on the outcome, the review could theoretically could pose a problem for academy graduates, some who may be working as police officers in the field.

    There are two other police academies in San Diego County: the Palomar College Police Academy in San Marcos and the San Diego Regional Public Safety Training Institute at Miramar College. The latter is considered to be the official academy where most police departments send their recruits.

    Unlike the academy at Miramar, most of the students at Southwestern and Palomar colleges pay their own tuition and hope to get hired by an agency after graduation.

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    Pretty vague on what the real issue was down there.

  • #2
    That's going to suck for the people that don't have jobs when their academy certificate gets decertified.
    Other officer: Oh that's right, I forgot, you're God's gift to police work.
    Me: At least someone recognizes it.

    Turns out basic police work isn't so hard, you just have to leave the station.

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    • #3
      Wow, this is very surprising. Beside Miramar, this academy seemed to be very squared away with academy classes usually full of cadets. Glad to see POST conducting audits to ensure cadets are getting the same training across the board.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Blizz View Post
        That's going to suck for the people that don't have jobs when their academy certificate gets decertified.
        You mean IF, right?...
        “Let him go, Lou. Someone driving that fast has no time for a ticket.”
        -Chief Wiggum

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        • #5
          Originally posted by LAC_LE View Post
          You mean IF, right?...
          One would hope. Historically POST errs on the side of caution when they think academy training might not be up to grade....even if it mean decertifying a whole class.
          Other officer: Oh that's right, I forgot, you're God's gift to police work.
          Me: At least someone recognizes it.

          Turns out basic police work isn't so hard, you just have to leave the station.

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          • #6
            A bunch of my classmates from Grossmont transferred over there and just graduated with the senior class this past December.

            If they get de-certified, that's going to suck.

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            • #7
              I doubt they would just de-certify a whole class without working with them and having them make up whatever hours they were deficient. If they were short 10 hours of arrest and control, 3 hours search and seizure etc then they should just have to make it up.

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              • #8
                http://www.10news.com/news/22419363/detail.html

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by IEA Applicant View Post
                  I doubt they would just de-certify a whole class without working with them and having them make up whatever hours they were deficient. If they were short 10 hours of arrest and control, 3 hours search and seizure etc then they should just have to make it up.
                  They didn't mind when changing from the Module A, B, C, D system to Level I/II/III. Lots of people that graduated and didn't find jobs within the first few months found themselves without any kind of POST certificate.
                  Other officer: Oh that's right, I forgot, you're God's gift to police work.
                  Me: At least someone recognizes it.

                  Turns out basic police work isn't so hard, you just have to leave the station.

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                  • #10
                    One academy that will remain unnamed was so bad officers who were working on the street all had to re-attend the full academy. In other prior situations, former recruits had to repeat a specific LD & test.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by eagleI View Post
                      One academy that will remain unnamed was so bad officers who were working on the street all had to re-attend the full academy. In other prior situations, former recruits had to repeat a specific LD & test.
                      If that's true, doesn't that throw a kink into past cases/arrests?

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                      • #12
                        Absolutely! If the person who taught you Laws of Arrest and/or Search & Seizure was not certified to teach, a defense attorney would have jumped all over that.

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                        • #13
                          wow, ... they need to fix that asap..
                          Officer Safety comes first.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by eagleI View Post
                            One academy that will remain unnamed was so bad officers who were working on the street all had to re-attend the full academy. In other prior situations, former recruits had to repeat a specific LD & test.
                            Was that the same academy that did felony stops in a classroom using desks to simulate cars, and handled LD test remediations by giving open-book remedial tests?
                            Government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. - Ronald Reagan

                            I don't think It'll happen in the US because we don't trust our government. We are a country of skeptics, raised by skeptics, founded by skeptics. - Amaroq

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                            • #15
                              affirm.
                              And it was corrected.

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