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  • CHP Car' New Lightbar Sequences

    If you are a fan of emergency lighting, these are the sequences available on the newer lightbars for the CHP...................

    http://www.smugmug.com/gallery/98864...742_reG6u-A-LB
    Be courteous to all, but intimate with few, and let those few be well tried before you give them your confidence!

    [George Washington (1732 - 1799)]


  • #2
    I like how the forwards stay constant while the vehicle's parked and on Code 3. My agency's unit(s) keep flashing until you drop it down to "2", which is usually the last thing on my mind as I bailout. Good stuff. Thanks for sharing Sgt!

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    • #3
      Can it hail the mother ship?
      Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. -- Aldous Huxley
      Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. -- Albert Einstein

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      • #4
        Do they program these sequences so it subliminally programs compliance when drivers see it?

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        • #5
          Heres a question maybe the Sgt. can answer.
          Why does CA have this "Steady Burning Red" requirement??
          I know it's in the VC, but my question is how did it come about, and why do we still use it?

          RZ

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          • #6
            Hey Sgt CHP,another question for you, I have seen a few vehicles running green and purple lights. What do they represent and is it legal?
            I'd rather be judged by 12 rather carried by 6.

            It should be noted that any and all post that are made are based on my own thought and opinions. And are not related or implied to represent the department I work for.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by RyDPS View Post
              Heres a question maybe the Sgt. can answer.
              Why does CA have this "Steady Burning Red" requirement??
              I know it's in the VC, but my question is how did it come about, and why do we still use it?

              RZ
              A Steady Burning Red Light means STOP and stay! A flashing red light means stop and proceed with caution. Simple as that. Railroads, airports, etc. all use a steady burning red light as a signal to stop.

              Circular Red or Red Arrow

              21453. (a) A driver facing a steady circular red signal alone shall stop at a marked limit line, but if none, before entering the crosswalk on the near side of the intersection or, if none, then before entering the intersection, and shall remain stopped until an indication to proceed is shown, except as provided in subdivision (b).

              (b) Except when a sign is in place prohibiting a turn, a driver, after stopping as required by subdivision (a), facing a steady circular red signal, may turn right, or turn left from a one-way street onto a one-way street. A driver making that turn shall yield the right-of-way to pedestrians lawfully within an adjacent crosswalk and to any vehicle that has approached or is approaching so closely as to constitute an immediate hazard to the driver, and shall continue to yield the right-of-way to that vehicle until the driver can proceed with reasonable safety.

              (c) A driver facing a steady red arrow signal shall not enter the intersection to make the movement indicated by the arrow and, unless entering the intersection to make a movement permitted by another signal, shall stop at a clearly marked limit line, but if none, before entering the crosswalk on the near side of the intersection, or if none, then before entering the intersection, and shall remain stopped until an indication permitting movement is shown.

              (d) Unless otherwise directed by a pedestrian control signal as provided in Section 21456, a pedestrian facing a steady circular red or red arrow signal shall not enter the roadway.

              Amended Sec. 1, Ch. 14, Stats. 2001. Effective January 1, 2002.


              Flashing Signals

              21457. Whenever an illuminated flashing red or yellow light is used in a traffic signal or with a traffic sign, it shall require obedience by drivers as follows:

              (a) Flashing red (stop signal): When a red lens is illuminated with rapid intermittent flashes, a driver shall stop at a clearly marked limit line, but if none, before entering the crosswalk on the near side of the intersection, or if none, then at the point nearest the intersecting roadway where the driver has a view of approaching traffic on the intersecting roadway before entering it, and the driver may proceed subject to the rules applicable after making a stop at a stop sign.

              (b) Flashing yellow (caution signal): When a yellow lens is illuminated with rapid intermittent flashes, a driver may proceed through the intersection or past the signal only with caution.

              Amended Ch. 413, Stats. 1981. Effective January 1, 1982.
              Same as Stop Lamps on the rear of a vehicle - steady red.
              Be courteous to all, but intimate with few, and let those few be well tried before you give them your confidence!

              [George Washington (1732 - 1799)]

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              • #8
                The forward red plus WW seems kinda pointless, It's pretty much code three.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by SgtCHP View Post
                  A Steady Burning Red Light means STOP and stay! A flashing red light means stop and proceed with caution. Simple as that. Railroads, airports, etc. all use a steady burning red light as a signal to stop.



                  Same as Stop Lamps on the rear of a vehicle - steady red.
                  I am going to go on a limb here, but I think he is asking why CA emergency vehicles have a forward facing, steady burning, red lamp. It that wasnt his question then it certainly is mine....anyone
                  Last edited by cityblusuit; 11-05-2009, 08:59 PM.
                  You cant arrest me...I know my Commandments!!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by cityblusuit View Post
                    I am going to go on a limb here, but I think he is asking why CA emergency vehicles have a forward facing, steady burning, red lamp. It that wasnt his question then it certainly is mine....anyone
                    The Vehicle code requires all emergency vehicle use it while rolling code three. Allegedly it's an old law from when there was a single rotator light (the cherry). Defense attorneys argued the suspect didn't see the light to pull over because each time they looked in the mirror the light was in the opposite direction. The steady burning light to the front eliminates this.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by cityblusuit View Post
                      I am going to go on a limb here, but I think he is asking why CA emergency vehicles have a forward facing, steady burning, red lamp. It that wasnt his question then it certainly is mine....anyone
                      And, I answered the question. Additionally, I attached some examples to support the "Steady Burning Red Light" usage. I gave some history.

                      Flashing lights on emergency vehicles are used strictly to draw attention - whether blue, amber or red. They identify the type of emergency vehicle and gain a motorists attention. The steady burning red light means STOP and do not proceed! How can I make it any clearer?

                      I think the question was answered!
                      Be courteous to all, but intimate with few, and let those few be well tried before you give them your confidence!

                      [George Washington (1732 - 1799)]

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by nobodyjr View Post
                        The Vehicle code requires all emergency vehicle use it while rolling code three. Allegedly it's an old law from when there was a single rotator light (the cherry). Defense attorneys argued the suspect didn't see the light to pull over because each time they looked in the mirror the light was in the opposite direction. The steady burning light to the front eliminates this.
                        Thanks...I think that was what we wanted to know. I was asking about moving vehicles....not stationary traffic signals.....seriously....am i the only who guy who was innocently seeking clarification.

                        Further.....even in California I would question the logic of saying that a solid red light on a moving vehicle means STOP.... certainly if you STOP and dont move to the right or otherwise clear the roadway you actually arent YIELDING the roadway to the emergency vehicle you are OBSTRUCTING it.....
                        You cant arrest me...I know my Commandments!!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by cityblusuit View Post
                          Further.....even in California I would question the logic of saying that a solid red light on a moving vehicle means STOP.... certainly if you STOP and dont move to the right or otherwise clear the roadway you actually arent YIELDING the roadway to the emergency vehicle you are OBSTRUCTING it.....
                          Yes, you are obstructing but not complying. The section, 21806 of the California Vehicle Code is explicit in its directive that a motorist must pull to the right and STOP upon the approach of an emergency vehicle displaying a "STEADY BURNING RED LAMP"

                          Authorized Emergency Vehicles

                          21806. Upon the immediate approach of an authorized emergency vehicle which is sounding a siren and which has at least one lighted lamp exhibiting red light that is visible, under normal atmospheric conditions, from a distance of 1,000 feet to the front of the vehicle, the surrounding traffic shall, except as otherwise directed by a traffic officer, do the following:

                          (a) (1) Except as required under paragraph (2), the driver of every other vehicle shall yield the right-of-way and shall immediately drive to the right-hand edge or curb of the highway, clear of any intersection, and thereupon shall stop and remain stopped until the authorized emergency vehicle has passed.

                          (2) A person driving a vehicle in an exclusive or preferential use lane shall exit that lane immediately upon determining that the exit can be accomplished with reasonable safety.

                          (b) The operator of every street car shall immediately stop the street car, clear of any intersection, and remain stopped until the authorized emergency vehicle has passed.

                          (c) All pedestrians upon the highway shall proceed to the nearest curb or place of safety and remain there until the authorized emergency vehicle has passed.

                          Amended Sec. 68, Ch. 1154, Stats. 1996. Effective September 30, 1996.

                          The original poster questioned WHY there is the requirement of a "steady burning red lamp."

                          Heres a question maybe the Sgt. can answer.
                          Why does CA have this "Steady Burning Red" requirement??
                          I know it's in the VC, but my question is how did it come about, and why do we still use it?

                          RZ
                          To expand, section 21055 of the Vehicle Code gives an exemption to operators of emergency vehicles if they are operating under certain conditions and displaying a red light.

                          Exemption of Authorized Emergency Vehicles

                          21055. The driver of an authorized emergency vehicle is exempt from Chapter 2 (commencing with Section 21350), Chapter 3 (commencing with Section 21650), Chapter 4 (commencing with Section 21800), Chapter 5 (commencing with Section 21950), Chapter 6 (commencing with 22100), Chapter 7 (commencing with Section 22348), Chapter 8 (commencing with Section 22450), Chapter 9 (commencing with Section 22500), and Chapter 10 (commencing with Section 22650) of this division, and Article 3 (commencing with Section 38305) and Article 4 (commencing with Section 38312) of Chapter 5 of Division 16.5, under all of the following conditions:

                          (a) If the vehicle is being driven in response to an emergency call or while engaged in rescue operations or is being used in the immediate pursuit of an actual or suspected violator of the law or is responding to, but not returning from, a fire alarm, except that fire department vehicles are exempt whether directly responding to an emergency call or operated from one place to another as rendered desirable or necessary by reason of an emergency call and operated to the scene of the emergency or operated from one fire station to another or to some other location by reason of the emergency call.

                          (b) If the driver of the vehicle sounds a siren as may be reasonably necessary and the vehicle displays a lighted red lamp visible from the front as a warning to other drivers and pedestrians.

                          A siren shall not be sounded by an authorized emergency vehicle except when required under this section.

                          Amended Ch. 1017, Stats. 1977. Effective September 23, 1977 by terms of an urgency clause.
                          And: Title 13, Division 2, Chapter 5, Article 3, Section 1122 of the California Administrative Code requires a "steady burning red lamp" on authorized emergency vehicles.

                          TITLE 13. MOTOR VEHICLES
                          DIVISION 2. DEPARTMENT OF THE CALIFORNIA HIGHWAY PATROL
                          CHAPTER 5. SPECIAL VEHICLES
                          ARTICLE 3. AUTHORIZED EMERGENCY VEHICLES -PERMITS
                          This database is current through 10/23/09 Register 2009, No. 43
                          § 1122. Special Requirements.


                          The vehicle for which a permit is issued may be operated as an authorized emergency vehicle only when specially equipped and maintained as follows:
                          (a) Special Devices. Each vehicle shall be equipped with:

                          (1) A siren and at least one steady burning red warning lamp that meet requirements established by the department;


                          (2) Seat belts, or equivalent passive restraints, for each seat utilized by personnel when such vehicles are being operated.


                          (b) Maintenance. The body, mechanical parts of the vehicle, and all required equipment shall be maintained in serviceable condition at all times.


                          <General Materials (GM) - References, Annotations, or Tables>


                          Note: Authority and reference cited: Section 2416, Vehicle Code.
                          Section 2416, Vehicle Code simply defines those agencies that may be issued AEV permits by the Commissioner of the California Highway Patrol/
                          Be courteous to all, but intimate with few, and let those few be well tried before you give them your confidence!

                          [George Washington (1732 - 1799)]

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by SgtCHP View Post
                            Yes, you are obstructing but not complying. The section, 21806 of the California Vehicle Code is explicit in its directive that a motorist must pull to the right and STOP upon the approach of an emergency vehicle displaying a "STEADY BURNING RED LAMP"




                            The original poster questioned WHY there is the requirement of a "steady burning red lamp."



                            To expand, section 21055 of the Vehicle Code gives an exemption to operators of emergency vehicles if they are operating under certain conditions and displaying a red light.



                            And: Title 13, Division 2, Chapter 5, Article 3, Section 1122 of the California Administrative Code requires a "steady burning red lamp" on authorized emergency vehicles.



                            Section 2416, Vehicle Code simply defines those agencies that may be issued AEV permits by the Commissioner of the California Highway Patrol/
                            OK....I got it now. Thanks....and if I pushed the wrong buttons I am sorry
                            You cant arrest me...I know my Commandments!!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by cityblusuit View Post
                              OK....I got it now. Thanks....and if I pushed the wrong buttons I am sorry
                              Not a problem! Sometimes one who reads what another writes may lose the meaning because there is no tonal inflection or facial movement. Sometimes I tend to get a bit too technical for simple questions. Could be me? One never knows!
                              Be courteous to all, but intimate with few, and let those few be well tried before you give them your confidence!

                              [George Washington (1732 - 1799)]

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